Poll number 3..

From what you guys see watching races, or reading what company has the best works suspension. I'm curious to compare what I see as a tuner. Sometimes I go WOW you could never do that with stock stuff but other times I can't beilve how bad some of it looks. Obvously the serious talent of the riders makes anything look great so plese don't base this not nesicarly on results, but rather how the stuff works with it's riders. This is not a aftermarket shoot-out so nothing about anything not on a top 20 guy.

Enzo, PC, and Factory Conn, and RG3, count as they provide mods or service for works level componets on top 20 bikes.

I'm sory to leave Husky and FbyF out. There stuff looks realy trick. I only had enough room for 10 spots. You can verbally vote for them by posting.
Regards,
Jer

Both Pastrana and Windham's bikes look like they work pretty well. So does Brown's Kawie and all of the 250Fs. Dowd's bike looks like the shock spring is too stiff. RC's bike has obvious problems. I'll post more humble opinions when (if) I think of some.

Suzuki seems to be doing very well, actually RG3 seems to be doing well. I've got some phots of the works stuff on the 125s. It does not seem to be as trick as the 250's. Can more of the voters comment on why they voted the way they did?

Here is a photo of the RG3 125 Factory 125 The forks look like standard 49mm units from the 00 but coated, with trick peices. The shock was again a Showa unit.

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Take a look at this bike. It's super trick. The Zookes are huge and the Sachs Shock is fairly stock looking. The Sachs shock is the strong point of the stock Husky, so the fact that it needs little rework does not surprise me.

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I'd give my vote, but I think it would represent a conflict of interest

I would vote if I had looked at them this way (Believe or not, we have great coverage of the AMA Nationals here via digital satellite. Yeah, they are delayed a week or two, but we usually get to see all the motos (125 and 250). Of course we also get the 250 GPs with bits of 125 and 500 thrown in for good measure).

Anyways, the stuff on RC's bike looks like it has about 2 inches of travel. That's some weird ****.

I've been more attentive for the World Championship races, and a lot of the guys seem like they have pretty heavy spring rates but kinda soft dampening, looking at how they bottom from big jumps but keep afloat in the smaller acceleration and braking stuff.

The KTM of Langston although looks good it doesnt seem to have the best suspension.RCs bike looks horrid.Torts bike looks o.k. to me but nothing special.Windhams looks good.Browns bike did a nasty swap the other week(not sure i blame the suspension however)The best suspension ive ever seen was on Dobbys works KTM(differrent to Langstons).On production bikes from what ive been told/ridden the showas have the most potential but the KYB come with better valving so people prefer them.A well set up showa is good enough to win a championship IMO.

I think McGrath's bike looks the smoothest over the knarliest whoop sections. Watch his head compared to the other riders when going WFO over whoops, he doesnt even booble compared to others. I know alot of this is dependent on his skill.

While we're at it, you guys need to "lern" me some "stuff":D

Know how much I know about suspension? NOTHING.
Please fill that oh so lonely void.

2 major questions:
1) What are the favorable and unfavorable characteristics of each of the shock/fork setups--Showa vs. KYB vs. ....You know, mags will say something like "the showa fork is surprisingly fine..." or I'll notice that a smaller CR will use one brand of fork vs. another for a bigger CR.
2) How do you tell who's suspension is doing what on the track? I know the basics, but these pro's suspensions all look the same to me. Just above, 2 thought that RC's suspension was horrid--how can they tell?

Jack