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11-18-2003, 05:32 PM
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This Smells!
I posted my 79 Husky in the for sale forum and got an email from a guy early this morning. He asked about lowest $ I'd take. I emailed him back. This is the reply I got:
hello,
thank you for your mail,also thanks for the reduction in the price.i want you to know that i will be making the payment for the bike with a cashier's check.i will be sending a check of $6,000 to you which will be payment for the bike and the cost of shipping.on receipt of the check you will deduct from the $6,000,the payment for the bike and send the remaining sum of money ($5000) to my shipper who will come over to your place and pickup the bike.i guess this arrangement is okay with you,if it is,mail me back with your full name as you would want it to appear on the check,your contact address and your phone number for easy communication.
thank you as i anticipate your mail.
best regards...
Frank.........
What is this? Email scam? I sent an email back saying to call me if he wants the bike. Talk about dissapointing! 
Tom
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11-18-2003, 05:33 PM
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SCAM!
Tell him you'll give the remaining sum to the shipper in person when the entire check clears and you have your cash in hand.
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11-18-2003, 05:39 PM
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That's what I thought, just a new one on me! They sure tug at your emotions, cause you think you've got a buyer. Good think I like the Husky and don't need to sell it. Just trying to clear space for the 78 Maico 440 Magnum I just bought. 
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11-18-2003, 05:40 PM
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Two guys from my racing series have been burned on this Scam.
Stay away.
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11-18-2003, 05:43 PM
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Check this, he replied instantly and claimed to have called and no one picked up. It's my cell and it's been in my pocket all day. Now he wants to do the whole deal by email.  I can't decide whether to tell him to blow or ignore him. He does have my cell number now!
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11-18-2003, 06:58 PM
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importatant scam warning
It appears that an unscrupulous person has discoverred our for sale forum and made it his hunting ground.
One of our members has a bike for sale and received a reply. The scam is the buyer offers to send a larger check then the sale amount as earnest money to make you think he is on the up and up. He will have you deduct the sale amount and then send a check for the remainder to a shipping agent (either before or after it is shipped).
Problem for you is that the cashiers check he sends you is either stolen or forged (read worthless) and by the time you find this out you are out the amount you refunded or gave to the shipping agent.
If it sounds to good to be true or smells fishy it probably is
there are many satisfied sellers and buyers here on DRN so use your head and common sense before making the final deal.
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11-18-2003, 08:08 PM
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the cashiers check will be real, but bogus, not only will you lose a bike but $5000 as well. do a google search for "motorcycle scams"
Probably best to let the police know about this.
where are they shipping this bike to, Nigeria ?
Quote:
"How the Counterfeit Cashier's Check scam works: It starts when people from overseas posing as potential buyers of large items for sale on the internet, such as cars, ask the seller of the item if they can have an associate of theirs in the United States mail them a cashier's check for the amount of the item plus transportation overseas in order to expedite the process. They ask that once the check has cleared the bank, the seller withdraw the amount that is for transportation, and wire it to the buyer so he can schedule the shipment of the item.
When these cashier's checks are deposited into the accounts of the sellers, the banks let the customer know that funds are available in 24 hours, which is correct for a legitimate cashier's check. Feeling safely assured the bank customer goes through with the transaction. Then, days later, when the checks are found to be counterfeit the banks remove the entire amount of the check from the customer's account.
The scam works because everyone is assuming that it is a legitimate cashier's check, so it would be available in 24 hours. But it takes much longer for it to be realized that the check is not legitimate, and by then it is too late for the victims.
In some recent cases, before the details get worked out, the Nigerian car dealers will say that they have already sold your car and they need it immediately. Then there becomes a problem, the person that is buying from them is told their selling price of the car and to make the check out to the you, the US seller of the car, so you will be sent a cashier's check for that higher amount and then be asked to Western Union the difference to them for shipping and entry fees to Africa."
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11-19-2003, 04:32 AM
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Damn I hate thieves! I am glad you consulted the ever-alert masses here at DRN before another victim fell prey to these losers!
-jeffd
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11-19-2003, 09:12 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
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I would like to see this have a thread/icon/title of its own - something to alert any seller or visitor to DRN
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11-19-2003, 07:08 PM
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Naïve Texan
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Perhaps a permanent home at the top of the for sale forums? This is not the 1st time I have heard of this, but I am sure that there are many who have not and will fall vicitm to this scam.
Good idea BB. :thumb:
-jeffd
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