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Just out of curiosity?
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Posted by: showtime586---------------------
Have the 4 strokes invaded the woods scene to the extent they have the mx scene? The whole sound of mx has changed over the last two years. Is it the same in the woods?
Posted by: scooter27---------------------
There are more and more 4 bangers every year but we still here the ring a ding of the others. I think we all see the writing on the walls at this point.
Posted by: jsned---------------------
Of the top 20 or so fastest guys in dist 17 HS, I think, the majority ride 2 strokes. Same for the top 5 or so in the dist 17 enduros. The guy leading the points (AA dist 17 HS) was riding a 250 4 stroke for a while but has switched back to a 125 2 stroke (Husqavarna).
Overall I think there is still more 2 strokes. It is hard to say, but Sept 19th is the best dist 17 HS on the schedule, and they usually have a good turn out. I will try to get a rough idea at that race.
Posted by: showtime586---------------------
Anyone ever do any gas mileage comparisons? I was just wondering if one was more fule efficient than the other?
Posted by: KaTooMer---------------------
It's mixed here in Missouri. In the last 5 years, definitely a lot more 4-strokes, especially in the mid-level classes. I think it's a function of the type of terrain (generally more open, GNCC-type courses) and the performance gains in 4-strokes over the last several years. When you're riding ATV trails, a 4-stroke can work as well (better, maybe) than a comparable 2-stroke. But when things get tight, like in D-17, I'd guess there's still going to be a perference for a more nimble 2-stroke.
As for MX, as long as the AMA lets a more powerful 250 four-stroke compete against 125 two-strokes and 450's compete with 250's, there's going to be a lot of 4-strokes on the track. And some might disagree with this, but my impression of the motocross world is that there's a lot more "me too-ism" going on than what you see in the off-road world. If one fast guy rides a 4-stroke, they all want one.
To continue saying the end is near for the 2-stroke is, in my opinion, premature. The market will dictate the future of the 2-stroke. Although it does appear to be a declining market, I think we'll continue to see closed-course 2-strokes being offered, but I don't expect to see the same level of R&D going into them. If I'm a MX'er, maybe that bothers me, but as an off-roader, I'm not as concerned. I do like the fact that there's such large price discounting of the 2-strokes.... 
Posted by: dirt bike dave---------------------
Four strokes never left the woods. But in events with a dead engine start, many riders are going to take a two stroke. It's nice to have a choice of competitive bkes, but peak power is not so critical in the woods, and lots of people will prefer the lighter weight and less complex two strokes.
Loud pipes that boom across the valleys are illegal in many areas now, including for competition. (good thing, IMO).
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