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Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Don't they know it rains in Seattle... like every day? Makes perfect sense to have an SX there in an open stadium.


Posted by: rickyd---------------------

Now the points are really up in the air, I kinda like it.. They should of figured on rain,

Oh well, were closer too the Nats


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Practice times:

1 22 00:51.506 Practice 1 Chad Reed Dade City, FL Yamaha YZ250
2 259 00:51.826 Practice 1 James M Stewart Haines City, FL Kawasaki KX250
3 5 00:53.719 Practice 1 Mike Larocco Corona, CA Honda CR250R
4 12 00:53.982 Practice 1 David Vuillemin Corona, CA Yamaha YZ250
5 4 00:53.998 Practice 1 Ricky Carmichael Havana, FL Suzuki RM250
6 14 00:54.263 Practice 1 Kevin W Windham Centreville, MS Honda CRF450R
7 15 00:54.924 Practice 1 Timmy M Ferry Largo, FL Yamaha YZ250
8 13 00:55.021 Practice 1 Heath D Voss Mico, TX Yamaha YZ450F
9 103 00:55.022 Practice 1 Sebastien Tortelli Lake Elsinore, CA Suzuki RMZ450
10 24 00:55.570 Practice 1 Ernesto Fonseca Murrieta, CA Honda CR250R
11 47 00:56.418 Practice 1 Tyler D Evans Corona, CA Suzuki RM250
12 33 00:57.653 Practice 1 Jason W Thomas Melrose, FL Honda CRF450R
13 70 00:57.684 Practice 1 Travis A Preston Hesperia, CA Honda CRF450R
14 20 00:59.751 Practice 1 Damon W Huffman Valencia, CA Honda CRF450R
15 38 01:00.309 Practice 1 Ryan D Clark Waddell, AZ Honda CRF450R
16 23 01:00.850 Practice 1 Kyle Lewis Henderson, NV Honda CRF450R
17 89 01:02.167 Practice 3 Kevin W Johnson Albuquerque, NM Yamaha YZ250
18 55 01:02.310 Practice 1 Joseph W Oehlhof Hesperia, CA Honda CRF450R
19 80 01:03.142 Practice 3 Doug Dehaan Thorndale, ON Honda CRF450R
20 57 01:03.989 Practice 3 Erick Vallejo Garland, TX Yamaha YZ250
21 56 01:04.117 Practice 3 Isaiah V Johnson Albuquerque, NM Yamaha YZ250
22 159 01:04.152 Practice 2 Jiri Dostal Murrieta, CA Honda CRF450R
23 171 01:04.685 Practice 3 Cole T Siebler Emmett, ID Suzuki RM250
24 201 01:04.695 Practice 2 Matt R Shue Cartersville, GA Suzuki RM250
25 90 01:06.527 Practice 3 Brian S Mason Columbia, IL Honda CRF450R
26 725 01:06.668 Practice 3 Logan Darien Glenwood Springs, CO Yamaha YZ250
27 81 01:06.766 Practice 3 Thomas L Hofmaster Grand Prairie, TX Suzuki RM250
28 125 01:07.541 Practice 2 Daniel M Blair Modesto, CA Yamaha YZ450F
29 52 01:07.644 Practice 2 Keith R Johnson Albuquerque, NM Yamaha YZ250
30 73 01:08.615 Practice 2 Justin Buckelew Riverside, CA Honda CR250R
31 524 01:08.901 Practice 3 Brandon W Butler Gainesville, FL Honda CRF450R
32 78 01:08.932 Practice 2 Ted Campbell Mesa, AZ Honda CRF450R
33 137 01:09.042 Practice 2 Brandon F Thomas Auburn, WA Honda CRF450R
34 586 01:10.050 Practice 3 Dennis J Ewing Lake Elsinore, CA Honda CRF450R
35 426 01:10.146 Practice 2 Chris L Barrett Pinon Hills, CA Honda CRF450R
36 162 01:10.519 Practice 2 Pedro Gonzalez Monterrey 64770, Yamaha YZ250
37 662 01:10.895 Practice 2 Travis L Bannister Colorado Springs, CO CRF450R
38 545 01:11.135 Practice 2 B Karsten Butler Miami, FL Honda CRF450R
39 157 01:12.194 Practice 2 Vincent M Blair Corona, CA Suzuki RM250
40 228 01:12.503 Practice 3 Derek A Leist Olney, IL Honda CRF450R
41 544 01:12.559 Practice 3 Forrest R Butler Miami, FL Honda CRF450R
42 622 01:12.740 Practice 2 Josh J Cox Madera, CA Yamaha YZ250
43 123 01:13.366 Practice 3 Billy M Binckley Snohomish, WA Yamaha YZ450F
44 919 01:13.510 Practice 3 Ricky Jurado Horizon City, TX Honda CR250R
45 828 01:13.583 Practice 2 Jake Christensen Provo, UT Honda CR250R
46 372 01:14.980 Practice 3 Brett A Boehm Duvall, WA Suzuki RM250
47 431 01:18.209 Practice 2 Joel King Monroe, WA Yamaha YZ450F
48 417 01:18.859 Practice 2 Travis Smith Lancaster, CA Honda CRF450R
49 414 01:19.226 Practice 3 Josh Bagge Shadow Hills, CA Honda CRF450R
50 993 01:19.919 Practice 2 Donald J Wanat Woodinville, WA Suzuki RM250
51 356 01:20.324 Practice 2 Tim Hawthorne De Soto, IL Honda CRF450R
52 728 01:22.319 Practice 2 Scott A Adolphsen Bellevue, WA Honda CRF450R
53 527 01:23.819 Practice 3 Brian K Goodin Tacoma, WA Honda CRF450R
54 118 01:28.755 Practice 3 Jamey G Grosser New Hope, MN Honda CRF450R
55 817 01:51.586 Practice 3 Todd J Carlson Mount Vernon, WA Honda CRF450R


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

125 practice times:

1 1 00:54.727 Practice 1 Ivan Tedesco Murrieta, CA Kawasaki KX250F
2 25 00:55.310 Practice 1 Nathan Ramsey Menifee, CA KTM 250SXF
3 51 00:56.260 Practice 1 Andrew T Short Murrieta, CA Honda CRF250R
4 60 00:56.941 Practice 1 Broc D Hepler Kittanning, PA Suzuki RM250Z
5 132 00:57.684 Practice 1 Billy R Laninovich Lake Elsinore, CA Honda CRF250R
6 111 00:58.079 Practice 1 Jay Marmont Murrieta, CA KTM 250SXF
7 44 00:58.302 Practice 1 Paul P Carpenter Ithaca, NY Kawasaki KXF250F
8 76 00:59.679 Practice 1 Ryan Morais Canyon Lake, CA Suzuki RM250Z
9 123 01:00.453 Practice 1 Brett Metcalfe Murrieta, CA Yamaha YZ125
10 256 01:00.817 Practice 1 Bryan K Johnson Cairo, GA Yamaha YZ250F
11 252 01:01.521 Practice 2 Justin F Keeney Lebanon, OR Kawasaki KX250F
12 91 01:01.717 Practice 2 Joshua P Woods Flint, MI Suzuki RM250Z
13 61 01:01.777 Practice 3 Joshua Summey Allen, TX Honda CRF250R
14 34 01:02.123 Practice 1 Christopher Gosselaar Victorville, CA Suzuki RM250Z
15 64 01:02.952 Practice 1 Sean T Collier Santa Clarita, CA Honda CRF250R
16 475 01:03.006 Practice 1 Jesse Casillas Jamul, CA Honda CRF250R
17 86 01:03.495 Practice 2 Ryan J Abrigo Snohomish, WA Honda CRF250R
18 717 01:03.880 Practice 3 Kyle J Mace Hesperia, CA Honda CRF250R
19 87 01:04.019 Practice 2 Turbo V Reif Atascadero, CA Honda CRF250R
20 6 01:04.549 Practice 1 Steve Lamson Camino, CA Honda CRF250R
21 75 01:04.577 Practice 1 Richie Owens Wildomar, CA Suzuki RM250Z
22 514 01:05.313 Practice 3 Eric Nye Corning, CA Yamaha YZ125
23 725 01:05.964 Practice 3 Logan Darien Glenwood Springs, CO Yamaha YZ250F
24 272 01:06.142 Practice 3 Rory M Sullivan Estacada, OR Honda CRF250R
25 74 01:06.990 Practice 2 Michael R Blose Allen, TX Honda CRF250R
26 238 01:08.548 Practice 2 Michael J Sleeter Escondido, CA Honda CRF250R
27 183 01:08.789 Practice 3 Brandon J Morgan Canyon Lake, CA Honda CRF250R
28 159 01:09.411 Practice 2 Josh Tarantino Lakeside, CA Honda CRF250R
29 453 01:10.027 Practice 3 Konnrad J Kuest Airway Heights, WA Honda CRF250R
30 541 01:10.175 Practice 3 Jeremy R Chaussee Lancaster, CA Yamaha YZ250F
31 281 01:11.908 Practice 3 Philip Ehnat Tacoma, WA Honda CRF250R
32 662 01:13.127 Practice 3 Travis L Bannister Colorado Springs, CO Yamaha YZ250F
33 246 01:14.115 Practice 3 Chris R Church Kenmore, WA Honda CRF250R
34 400 01:14.358 Practice 3 Chad M Hensley Port Orchard, WA Yamaha YZ250F
35 828 01:14.515 Practice 3 Jake Christensen Provo, UT Honda CRF250R
36 417 01:15.396 Practice 3 Travis Smith Lancaster, CA Honda CRF250R
37 431 01:19.033 Practice 2 Joel King Monroe, WA Yamaha YZ250F
38 585 01:20.631 Practice 2 Keith A Ford Olympia, WA Kawasaki KX250F
39 821 01:21.968 Practice 2 Mitch M Carroll Grand Junction, CO Yamaha YZ250F
40 364 01:26.112 Practice 2 Eric M Cleveland Milton, WA Yamaha YZ250F


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Reed makes a "rookie" mistake in his heat and off to the semi.


Posted by: john3_16---------------------

Why in the world would someone build an open stadium in Seattle ?


Posted by: Tony Williams---------------------

My stupid media player never works on this computer, so, once again, I can't hear the webcast. I'm too lazy to go out in the GMC pickup and listen to the XM broadcast on channel 152.


Posted by: ellandoh---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Williams
My stupid media player never works on this computer, so, once again, I can't hear the webcast. I'm too lazy to go out in the GMC pickup and listen to the XM broadcast on channel 152.


download the #10 update


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Chad makes a "rookie" mistake in the main...
Need to see that one, sounds like he and Stewart came together in the first turn.


Posted by: Tony Williams---------------------

Stewart takes rookie lead


Posted by: Tony Williams---------------------

and even though I can't hear this, I do see Stewart picking up a second per lap...


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Great run thru the pack for Reed!


Posted by: Tony Williams---------------------

Is Windham going to get RC????


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Rookie win for JBS, Reed doesn't make the podium (unreal run tho)


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Unoffical:

JBS
K-Dub
RC
Reed
LaRocco
Vuileman (lapped)
Preston
Evans
Voss
Ferry
Thomas


Posted by: TwinSpar---------------------

James? Reedy put on one hell of a show... He's the hero as of this race as far as I'm concerned.


Posted by: nephron---------------------

Stewart is slow. Inconsistent. He sucks. He's too crazy, wild, and out of control to be a true champion. Reed? He's the ultimate. What....place was he?.........snoooooorrrrrreeee.


Posted by: ellandoh---------------------

k dub may be a sleeper for the nationals??
bowfinger is gonna get brakechecked
cr will get some
rc will get it one more time


Posted by: rickyd---------------------

anybody know if and when the race will be televised??


Posted by: super rat---------------------

RC pulls down another title, unbelievable.


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Tell ya what, the vets better be pulling out all the tricks, because Stewart is faster outside than he is inside.


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by rickyd
anybody know if and when the race will be televised??
Tomorrow night ESPN2, 9-11 PM Central.


Posted by: JPIVEY---------------------

Hey we're all wondering here, my windows media player cut out just as the guy said " let me give you the Butterfinger", so did he slip Ol' JBS the butterfinger or was it the holeshot award


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Well I sure hope some of you guys can find some comments to complain about from his press conference this week, sure makes for some entertaining reads


Posted by: ellandoh---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by JPIVEY
Hey we're all wondering here, my windows media player cut out just as the guy said " let me give you the Butterfinger", so did he slip Ol' JBS the butterfinger or was it the holeshot award


you have the g rated version
that is the bowfinger award you missed


Posted by: ellandoh---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Okiewan
Well I sure hope some of you guys can find some comments to complain about from his press conference this week, sure makes for some entertaining reads


shall we start a thread for em now okiewan and should we call it "Bubba the Mouth strikes again pt II" or "Bubba the Mouth strikes again: return of the jedi"

i cant wait to see what chads boys are gonna say about the 1st turn issed:


Posted by: Tiger---------------------

Damn, I haven't seen this race.

Still, Chad has been banging other guys (Windham, RC, etc...) for years now in the first turn (and getting away with it. Always glad to see someone get a dose of their own medicine. Looks like he handled it well too. Good for him.

My DirecTV TiVo says Friday evening ESPN2 telecast is a "repeat"...but shows NO initial telecast. Did SX get bumped again? I'm gonna hate to wait until Friday. I love mud races!

Where the hell is Ernest Fonseca this year?


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Ernie fell several times in each; practice, heat and main, sounded he and Voss had a REALLY hard time last night.
Quote:
My DirecTV TiVo says Friday evening ESPN2 telecast is a "repeat"...but shows NO initial telecast. Did SX get bumped again? I'm gonna hate to wait until Friday. I love mud races!
Still shows-up in the ESPN2 listings here (starting at 9 CST)


Posted by: Ol'89r---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by nephron
Stewart is slow. Inconsistent. He sucks. He's too crazy, wild, and out of control to be a true champion. Reed? He's the ultimate. What....place was he?.........snoooooorrrrrreeee.


Look's like he made another rookie mistake and accidently wins another one.


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

How many wins did RC have in his first 250 SX season? 1 (Daytona) in 1999, correct? And he ran the whole series?


Posted by: splatt---------------------

Well it wasn't the slop-fest that Anahiem 1 was but it was a soft track. That being said it was an awesome race CR had some bad luck but put in an amazing run in the main from last to 4th. KW had a good run and passed RC for second and Bubba just flat run away all night. Best of all the rain stayed away for the night. As for building an open stadium in Seattle I'm still trying to figure that one out and I live here.

Steve


Posted by: marcusgunby---------------------

So how hard did rc try in this race? considering he just needed to beat Chad who was last?the 2nd coming is still coming IMO


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Based on his press conference statement: I'm just disgusted, something's wrong, something inside.. I think I'm charging, but apparently I'm not"

Make of it what you will.


Posted by: Treejumper---------------------

Does anyone know if the race was on tv from noon to 2pm EST today? ESPN2 said 10pm to midnight EST but my listing on Dishnetwork shows Poker Championships. So i went to RacerX and it said noon to 2pm EST. Dont know whats up now.


Posted by: JPIVEY---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Okiewan
Tomorrow night ESPN2, 9-11 PM Central.


My dishnetwork doesn't show any SX on ESPN2, just drag racing and talk show BS, I sure hope this is wrong


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Comcrust still shows it at 9 central.


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by marcusgunby
So how hard did rc try in this race? considering he just needed to beat Chad who was last?the 2nd coming is still coming IMO
IMHO, JBS would be like the 4th coming


Posted by: Barbarian---------------------

I think RC is having a little confidence crisis, now that somebody actually appears to be faster than he is. It's understandable, and he'll get over it.


Posted by: Tiger---------------------

I'm actually watching drag racing...all night long!


Posted by: OldassKDX---------------------

I went with a few of my old roommates and it really looked like the guys in charge make the track pretty darn rideable. Least impressive champion of the night has to go to Tedesco, it was pretty obvious he was out to wrap up the title, he didn't even look like he was trying. Reed looked like a totally different guy from his heat to the semi, his timing just looked much better after he got some more time on the track. My favorite part of the night was watching Ramsey come back after the crash. It really looked like he was having bike power problems. Reed was riding fast, real fast in the main, as was Stewart, but RC surprised me. I cant even remember a time when Windham passed RC indoors late in the race.


Posted by: ellandoh---------------------

quote "but RC surprised me. I cant even remember a time when Windham passed RC indoors late in the race."

somebody keeps telling him to "be careful" . when people tell me to be careful i cant ride at all issed:

i think it stems from everytime my dad use to tell me to stay out of trouble 15 minutes before i would go to jail


Posted by: Treejumper---------------------

Its on!!!! Dishnetwork just screwed up on the listing in their guide.


Posted by: rickyd---------------------

This is the way a SX track should be!!


Posted by: JPIVEY---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Treejumper
Its on!!!! Dishnetwork just screwed up on the listing in their guide.


I'm watching the most exciting round of the US Poker Championships, I've ever seen


Posted by: rickyd---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by JPIVEY
I'm watching the most exciting round of the US Poker Championships, I've ever seen

Whos winnin??


Posted by: rickyd---------------------

Bubba parked Reed


Posted by: JPIVEY---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by rickyd
Bubba parked Reed


But what a awsome ride and JBS can still bite my


Posted by: BEEF706---------------------

Remember what happened the last time RC limped into the outdoors with a "confidnece problem" Bubba is doing better than I thought he would but still not a factor in the championship(this year), I hope he stays up all summer and we get to see them go head to head. And Okie; if Bubba beats RC I will wear a lepracghuan outfit of your choice around the pits and in the COTT at DW with a sign that says Bubba rules and I drool (PS props to NM expatriot Ivan Tedesco for winning another 125W )


Posted by: pace---------------------

From the numerous replays showed, it appears that Windham bumped Stewart, causing him to send Reed into the tough blocks. But it was also clear half way down the start straight that Stewart and Reed were on a rookie collision course. One more lap at the end, and Reedy would have picked off Carmichael. RC just looked plain tired in the last few laps.

The people who 'dis RC or Tedesco for 'cruising' seem to forget that they had to work damned hard in the first half of the season to accumulate the comfortable points lead they've had in the latter half. RC might be operating somewhat in 'low risk' mode, but right now he's just plain being outridden by Reed and Stewart. That doesn't diminish his accomplishment this season at all IMHO. We've seen him do this before.

Assuming all the players stay healthy, it's going to be an interesting outdoors, and one that I believe RC is not going to run away with as he did in 2004.


Posted by: ellandoh---------------------

given reeds starting position he should've expected what he got , thats what i would call a rookie that really , really , really wants a BUTTERFINGER or needs an extra 1500 for vegas in a couple weeks. if he would've settled for a top 5 start and rode like he did he may have pressured bowfinger into a rookie mistake.

did you notice how rc played the exact same hand earlier this season?


Posted by: Barbarian---------------------

At some point you've got to get off your hot streak, slow down for awhile, so you can start going 100% again later. This would be the ideal time for RC to do it. Plus it sets him up as an underdog in the nationals, which is a psychologicaly easier place to be.


Posted by: nephron---------------------

Don't fret too much people. At some point, the laws of physics will step in and Stewart's speed will have to plateau to a ceiling where him and his bike cannot possibly go faster. Kinda like terminal velocity.


Posted by: cr250can---------------------

What about windham? This guy really needed that pass on RC. Things like that help him break through the mental barriers that keep him from going faster.

I hope he pulls out some serious speed for nationals I'd love to see kw win it.


Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

Observations from the stands:more later if I think of it


Posted by: Tiger---------------------

Great day at the races. They should always have 3 heats IMHO.

I TiVo slow mowed the start of that 250 main. Over and over. 2 things appeared clear.

1. CR tried to steal the start from WAY outside. (He qualified via a semi.)
2. The wet conditions packed about 5 riders on the outside of that turn. K-Dub, JBS, CR, etc...
3. RC saw the carnage about to unfold and dove to the extreme inside...almost paid off.

After watching it over and over, it was just a racing thing. Also anyone attempting to holeshot form the outside is a brave man.


Posted by: nikki---------------------

Now that was a race I enjoyed watching on ESPN2 - what an awesome track for some exciting racing. I like a track where your top 10 can't nail every triple and finish line double each lap. Plus those sweet ruts made for some interesting bobbles and challenges.

That was sweet seeing K-Dub take the tight inside to pass RC with a lap to go. K-Dub usually loses his agressiveness after lap 5 in SX. Way to go Kevin!!

And Reed was turning out laps like a madman to finish right behind K-Dub and RC. Bubba slowed the last few laps, but I would have loved to see a race between Reedy and Bubba because Reed was on fire. His start crash had to cost him at least 15-20 seconds on lap one?


But again, I can't believe they wouldn't put a retractable roof on a brand new Seattle stadium.... duuuhhhh


Posted by: YamaB---------------------

Awesome race!

I was really surprised that Bubba was able to rip through the entire race at such blazing speeds w/out making any major mistakes... That says a lot considering how knarly that track looked...

AMAZING performance by Reed... I can't believe that he nearly caught Windam and RC after crashing in the first turn like that... He has really stepped up his game in the last few weeks...

Also good to see Windam get the better of RC for a change... He also seems to be stepping up more and more as the season progresses...

As for Stewart's mouth... I like a little trash talking... I get BOOOORED with competitors always trying to be politically correct... I think his riding speaks for itself... Once he matures, no one will be able to touch him...

- B


Posted by: SpectraSVT---------------------

I can't say I understand Bubba's strategy. AT 1 point in the race Reed was down 29 secs to Bubba. But at the end of the race, he was less than 8 secs behind Bubba. What is he doing? In almost every race he's been in, he falls off the pace and allows the other riders to catch up. Bubba's lap times get slower as the race goes on while eveyone gets faster. I can understand backing off a bit when you got a lead but not backing off to the point that you are allowing 20-22 secs being made up on you in 10 laps. Especially on a track like Seattle where 1 mistake can be costly. And he's not running consistent. He pulls off fast laps to start and then each lap gets worse. He doesn't find a smooth pace and sticks with it.


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Quote:
What is he doing? In almost every race he's been in, he falls off the pace and allows the other riders to catch up.
Ever watch McGrath race SX? Seems he's got a few SX wins with that plan. It's called building a lead and cruising to the end. He may let them catch up, but not until after the checkers fly. If he blitzed every lap people would just say he doesn't know how to let-up (they've said that in the past) or that his ego wanted the biggest margin of victory possible (they've also said that).


Posted by: YamaB---------------------

I wonder if he doesn't just get tired after blazing such a fast pace for the 1st half of the race... I mean he was out for an extended period of time this year, and might not be in absolutely tip top shape right now...

I race at a MUCH lower level, but I know my lap times decrease as the race goes on as I just get tired, and realize that if I don't slow down a bit, I'm going to make a BIG mistake and eat it pretty good...

- B


Posted by: Someone---------------------

Awesome race. KW was on fire as well as Reed. I think Bubba had a 47.04 lap in the main. F'in crazy.


Posted by: rickyd---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by XRpredator
.[*]Wish I'd heard the press conference. Reed had to have been pissed.[/list]

Reed didnt get too speak, didnt make the podium.. I remember at one point in either the qualifier or the main (cant remember) he and one of his teammates got tangled up, would of liked too have been at the Yamaha truck too hear the conversation issed:


Posted by: SpectraSVT---------------------

Racer X said Reed spoke in the press conerference and that if you want to know what he said go to Inside Dirt at www.supercross.cc.com to read it. I'm not a clear channel member and couldn't find a register link. Anybody else know what he said?


Posted by: pace---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Someone
Awesome race. KW was on fire as well as Reed. I think Bubba had a 47.04 lap in the main. F'in crazy.


Yeah.. we've all been raving about Chad's charge through the pack, but his best lap was almost 2 seconds slower than Bubba's best!


Posted by: JPIVEY---------------------

Yeah, but Reeds laps were consistant lap after lap right to the very end, can't say that about RC or JS


Posted by: cr250can---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by pace
Yeah.. we've all been raving about Chad's charge through the pack, but his best lap was almost 2 seconds slower than Bubba's best!

That maybe true but if you look at JBS last laps he really slowwed down. CR was consitantly at 49-50 second laps


Posted by: pace---------------------

Do you really think that Bubba needed to push that pace all the way up until the finish, but was unable to?


Posted by: Micahdawg---------------------

So in the last race when Bubba washed out we heard, "I was all over Ricky, and I could’ve actually hit Ricky but I let him go. I didn’t want to mess up the points and stuff."

Fast forward to this week where when asked about sending Reed off the track and he said something to the effect of, "Yeah, I understand these guys are racing for a championship, but I'm also out to win races."

So in one week, he's giving some consideration to the points race, but this week it's "too bad, so sad, I want to win too."

I like Bubba, but I like Reed more. And it was a tough pill to swallow to see Bubba's reckless holeshots take out the only guy who could have given RC a run at the title. Do I think he purposely took him out.....of course NOT. I also understand that his "reckless" (call it agressive) style separates the winners from the losers. But you might want to tone it down just a hair when you don't even have a shot at the damn title. And if you are physically incapable of toning it down, maybe an apology is in order when you do send a REAL contender off the track.

Micah


Posted by: OldassKDX---------------------

I like Reed more than Stewart too, but if he really wanted to keep from going over the berm he could have let off the right hand grip as well. It's a contact sport, and frankly I don't think Stewart was any more in the wrong than Windham or Reed. Reed's a tough guy, I doubt you'll hear him crying half as much as the Bubba haters over the contact.



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