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Team USA 2005 Confirmed for the MXdN

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Posted by: tony91---------------------

From RacerX:

Ricky Carmichael, Kevin Windham, and Mike Brown have officially been named Team USA 2005.

AMA Pro Racing held a press conference Saturday afternoon at the Thunder Valley National to confirm Carmichael, Windham, and Brown are going to represent their country in Ernee, France, on Sept 24-25. After months of speculation and rumor (and the usual internet message-board wars), Team USA 2005 is settled at last.

For RC, this is another chance for him to show Stefan Everts who is the world's fastest, and this time he wants USA to take the overall. Mike Brown was picked for the team in 2001, but the trip was cancelled due to Sept. 11, so at last he gets another chance. Kevin Windham is known as the guy who just doesn't like to travel, but it looks like American Honda, Amsoil/Chaparral Honda, and Windham got together and decided it would be best to go.

Brown will race MX2, RC will race MX1, and Windham will race MX3/Open. It has not yet been decided who will prepare Brown's bike, but it looks like he will get plenty of support.
The team manager is once again Makita Suzuki's Roger DeCoster, who also spoke at the press conference and talked about the extra work this event takes. He confirmed that it takes an extra two or three weeks, and says it’s hard to schedule in because of the expanding domestic schedule, but he added, "There is a business side and a sport side, and we shouldn't forget the sport side."

We couldn't agree more.




Posted by: evenslower---------------------

I'm happy for Brownie. He'll get the chance to show everybody what he could have done in MX2 given the proper support. Go get 'em Brownie.


Posted by: pace---------------------

Just saw that on AMAMotocross.com

http://www.amamotocross.com/article...c=1003&aid=6542

Quote:
AMA Pro Motocross Manager Steve Whitelock proudly introduced the 2005 Motocross Des Nations team late this afternoon at an impromptu press conference. The USA Team in 2005 will be comprised of Team Manager Roger DeCoster, Ricky Carmichael, Mike Brown and Kevin Windham.



During the press conference it was said that Team Makita Suzuki’s Ricky Carmichael will race the premier 250 class, with Amsoil Chaparral Honda rider Kevin Windham in the 500 class, and Mike Brown filling the spot in the 125 class. The race is scheduled for late September in France.



Steve Whitelock confessed to me earlier in the day that he would be making an important announcement this weekend – and that’s just what it was. Popular rumors in the pits had Ricky Carmichael and Roger DeCoster meeting with Kevin Windham today – to convince him to go! While the entire 2005 team is eager to go, everyone needs to understand that it does take critical time away from pre-season testing.


Neato.


Posted by: bclapham---------------------

i cant see USA loosing, as long as the stay upright.


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

K-DUB Steps up!!! Very cool...

You're right Bruce, RC and Windham have always been known for crashing out, hopefully they can stay in the top 10.


Posted by: bclapham---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Okiewan
K-DUB Steps up!!! Very cool...

You're right Bruce, RC and Windham have always been known for crashing out, hopefully they can stay in the top 10.


errrrrrrrrrrr? where did i say they would crash out?

i will make it clearer for the hard of understanding (Okie).

I cant see USA loosing, except for the unlikely event that RC, MB or KW crash or breakdown.

anyhow, in years gone by when the US could get a team there, the race didnt matter. I assume it matters now?


Posted by: holyroller1---------------------

This is a great team for the US.

All three of these guys will give 110%.


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

For the hard to express himself Bruce... those are two differernt posts my friend Adding "unlikely" kinda makes it a different statement, no?


BTW: I'm thinking RC could tip over multiple times and still win it.


Posted by: marcusgunby---------------------

I think thats a real strong team and it should be interesting how the others do, we brits will probably have reasononable team but not IMO capable of winning-it could be just like 94 however?


Posted by: ScottS---------------------

finally ! The rest of the world teams are no slouches, but these guys should do us proud,


Posted by: Anssi---------------------

The US team is certainly looking pretty strong, but Everts, Ramon, Smets(or Melotte, if none of the grown-ups will ride the 250F) for Belgium and Coppins, Townley for NZ are not looking too shabby either. If Reed comes over, McFarlane could probably do pretty well on a big bike as well.

I think two worst finishes are still dropped (so those will be Brown´s, in the best case scenario of KW and RC finishing where they should) and it is not impossible for, say, Coppings and Townley to finish between RC and KW.


Posted by: KiwiBird---------------------

Cool, I get to cheer for 2 teams! Usa wins with NZ second!

For an underdog nation I hope Juss puts in a good show for Estonia too.


Posted by: zcookie49---------------------

Way to go guys!!! RC has been very vocal about wanting to do this and that he thought Brownie deserves to go. I am very impressed that KDub committed to the team as well. Will this air on OLN or what?


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Will it air on OLN? Sure just do this for a year or two:
Click Me.


Posted by: ellandoh---------------------

awwww maannnn it looks like the g5 makes it a little too easy to post .mov files


Posted by: slideways11---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Okiewan
Will it air on OLN? Sure just do this for a year or two:
Click Me.

That is too funny Okie. TV coverage of MX has reached an all time low. Texas hold 'em poker gets more coverage than MX.

I am seriously thinking about flying over for the MXdN does anybody know of any package deals being offered? That is probably the only way to see the race.


Posted by: cuttyinjapan---------------------

I dont think Everts will be a problem for Ricky - but watch out for the 2 flying Kiwis Townley and Coppins - I hope they are going to be there representing NZ. They are smoking at the moment in the FIM MX1 - go the kiwis
http://www.adbmag.com/news_show.php?id=590


Posted by: Sayntmatt---------------------

Yeah I reckon NZ could be THE team this year. Coppins is flying right now and Townley is looking real good this year. Im sure RC will win the race but will Team USA mange it? Time will tell!


Posted by: jsned---------------------

According to RacerX Brown is out. No explanation.

Brown off of Team USA?

Racer X received this email last night from Dan Dilkey, the manager for Mike Brown:

Following a meeting regarding the Motocross des Nations last Sunday at Binghamton, New York that included Kevin Windham, Ricky Carmichael, Roger DeCoster, and Steve Whitelock of the AMA (and not Mike Brown), and while smack-dab in the middle of preparations for his Motocross des Nations effort, Mike Brown was informed by the AMA this afternoon that he will not be a member of the 2005 US Team as previously announced. With all personal and sponsor reservations confirmed Mike must now unwind those efforts, personally absorb the cost of all those reservations and preparations, and stay home.

Apparently, the decision to remove Brownie from this year’s Team came from Kevin Windham, Ricky Carmichael, and Steve Whitelock. Completely caught off-guard by the decision especially considering that this effort is all on Brown’s coin, Mike was totally pumped to finally be realizing his MXDN dreams. However, with those dreams now shattered Brownie must focus on finishing up this year’s National Series on a positive note, and then look towards preparing for the 2006 AMA 250 Supercross and 125 National Motocross Series, which he’ll be riding.

Brownie only hopes that his replacement (whoever that may be) will be 110% dedicated and committed to this effort as he was and wishes the rest of the US Team the best of luck in their effort to bring the MXDN trophy back home to the US, which is where it belongs.

Mike, his Team, and his family would like to thank all of their sponsors and fans for their support of Mike’s 2005 efforts, as follows: Ken and Kirk Hayes and the entire staff at JIM’S Motorcycle Sales, Parts Unlimited, Thor, Randy Richardson and Michelin, Deluge Spring Water, HJC Helmets, Utopia, Alpinestars, Renthal, Etnie’s Shoes, N-Style, Tokyo Mods, Vortex Ignitions, Plasticwerks, Haan Wheels, Big Minis, SDG, Bel Ray, Honda Red Rider’s Club, and The Netwerk, LLC.

Stay tuned to Racer X Online for more on this breaking story


Posted by: dirt bike dave---------------------

Sucks for Brown. His early season results were impressive, but he's struggled a bit lately.

I wonder who they have lined up to replace him. No way they would cut Brown loose unless they have a firm commitment from a replacement rider - probably someone who is ahead of him in the standings (Hot Sauce, Alessi, Short and Grant). Maybe Tedesco will make his Suzuki debut at the MXdN?

FWIW, I just went to the AMA site and they have an interview dated today, August 24! Obviously they talked to Brown at Broome Tioga, and the possibility he might be off the team was not even discussed. In the interview he was asked about being on the team.


I cut and pasted a portion below....

AMA Website Reporter: Are you still down spending a lot of time with Carmichael?

Mike Brown: Yeah I haven’t been home at all. After Washougal, I went back to California and did some testing on my bike and got it back to where I think it should be; then straight back to Carmichael’s where I’ve been staying ever since Mt. Morris. I think it would be great for me to go home a little bit and get a break; but its good training with Ricky for sure. He knows what it takes to win.

AMA Website Reporter: Let’s hear a little bit about your thoughts about being selected for the Motocross Des Nations team. I know you were selected in the past but the team didn’t end up going; what does it mean to go over to Europe?

Mike Brown: Sure, it’s awesome to be a part of it; especially to be picked again. It’s been five or six years ago, since when I was originally picked, but that’s awesome. Ever since I was a kid I’ve always watched the Motocross Des Nations and kept on top of them. The first one I went to was in ’87 to watch Bob Hannah and the team at Unadilla. It’s great for sure to get picked; a lot of people might be doubting that the way I’ve been riding, but I have had a few more problems than the others, that’s making me ride that way. I’m excited; I think it’s going to be great and I have a lot to prove when I get over there. I’m sure we’ve got a good team; I don’t think anyone should be doubting the way I’ll be riding over there -- I know the tracks and I’ll be ready.


Posted by: nikki---------------------

I had a feeling this was in the works.... in the Racer X Monday conversation with Windham, this was one of the questions:


You guys [RC, Whitelock, and DeCoster] had a meeting after the press conference. Did you talk about the des Nations?
Yeah, we did. I officially can’t comment on that. It was a decent meeting, and we’re pretty excited about it. It will be good.


Seemed pretty obvious Racer X knew Brown wasn't in the meeting. And K-Dub with his "I officially can't comment... it will be good" it seemed to be a possibility that Brown was out. Kinda sucks for Brownie.... but I don't understand his late season "slide" either. He sure came out swinging in the first few races.


Posted by: dirt bike dave---------------------

Wow, I wish I had cut and pasted the entire interview with Brown.

It has been removed completely from the AMA page. Not a good sign for Brownie.


Posted by: cnielse5---------------------

here is the official story on brown.

Team USA MXoN Lineup Changed
August 24, 2005

AMA Pro Racing press release



AMA Pro Racing confirmed today that the lineup for the American team representing the United States at the 2005 Motocross of Nations (MXoN) has been changed. Riders Ricky Carmichael and Kevin Windham remain on the team and Ivan Tedesco has been added to replace Mike Brown.

The 2005 MXoN will be held on September 25, at Ernee, France.

AMA Pro Racing MX/SX Series Manager Steve Whitelock made the announcement and said the change was made in consultation with the team.

“Over the past couple of weeks Ricky, Kevin and Roger (De Coster, Team Manager) had expressed some concerns to me. At Binghamton last Sunday we discussed it again,” said Whitelock. “Obviously this is a very tough call to make but everyone agreed that we have to do what’s in the best interest of the American effort.”

Whitelock stated that he spoke to Brown about the situation at Binghamton on Sunday and then again Monday.

“Mike Brown is an accomplished rider and everyone appreciates the commitment he made to supporting the team,” said Whitelock. “Ultimately, however, we have to send the team that has the greatest chance of success and that is what drove us to make this difficult decision.”


Posted by: nikki---------------------

Wow..... umm, go hot sauce.


Posted by: cnielse5---------------------

I wonder if Tedesco was picked becuase he is going to suzuki next year?


Posted by: xsnrg---------------------

Cool for Ivan, sucks for Brown. I feel bad for the guy, but they are right...gotta send the best available and Brown has not been as consistent lately as he was earlier on.


Posted by: 380EXCman---------------------

This whole thing does seem a little suspicious. Brown may not be riding at the same level as RC and K-Dub. But most of the teams are not made up of the top 3 riders in the world. In my opinion if Bubba will not go the best choice is Mike Brown or even Ryan Hughes. Both these guys can ride the hell out of 125's/250F's and both have euro experience. Wasnt it 2000 when RC, Pastrana and Hughes went? They did great. I think its pretty weak of the AMA to cut Mike Brown. Or for his buddies to stab him in the back. Man its like the credit card companies kickin a guy when he is down. The AMA just raised his APR from 5.9% to 29.9%. Lame. I say pick a team and 2 alternates incase of inuries and stand behind them!


Posted by: Anssi---------------------

Pretty damn lame. Make a decision and stick with it.


Posted by: DWreck---------------------

I think they looked at it as a business decision. Its a big commitment both time and money wise and Tedesco has been consistently putting in better results than Brown. It wouldn't be hard to make a good case for Hot Sauce considering that barring something really strange happening he will be the current 250F Supercross and National Champ by the time the des Nations rolls around. On the other hand I like Brown and know that he has the experience of racing in Europe and has an axe to grind with his former employer so I have no doubt that he would have given it his all. Another thing that makes me think that there is no hidden agenda is that Brown and Carmichael have been buddies for a long time so I'm sure that it was tough for Ricky to be part of the decision to do this. No doubt it will be a strong team. GO USA!


Posted by: SpDyKen---------------------

I'd sure like to know what is REALLY going on here. From what I am understanding, it sounds (or smells) like the AMA, or someone has tipped over the outhouse with MB in it. They (AMA) sure are not handling it well, P.R. wise! Par for the course, I guess.


Posted by: twoofeach---------------------

Bubba could have gained some "Brownie" points by representing.

I thought for sure Alessi was going to get the nod. If he hadn't been trampled by Langston in Hangtown or could have stayed a little healthier, I think he would be on top of the 125's. Also, he is going to be in Europe to compete in the last GP there after riding Glen Helen.

Saying all that, I am elated that Tedesco is getting a little recognition. He's been tearing it up for the last few years in SX and has elevated himself to a new level in the outdoor nationals. He has been the ONLY rider that has been getting consistent results and that is why he is leading the 250F class. Plus it doesn't hurt that HE'S MY BOY!

Also, I think the AMA has done a terrible disservice to Mike Brown. Honestly, I thought that the other guys would catch him when he was leading and I wasn't too thrilled when they did announce the team a few weeks ago. However, why did they campaign for the guy and select him if they weren't going to stand by him 100%? The AMA. Rights. Racing. Rip off artists to Mike Brown. issed:


Posted by: funktree---------------------

Brown has had a tough year, I wonder if this will be the nail in his coffin and he'll retire soon.

I also found this quote from that interview that someone posted quite interesting

"a lot of people might be doubting that the way I’ve been riding, but I have had a few more problems than the others, that’s making me ride that way"

I wonder what these problems are, I bet Ricky knows about these problems if anyone does. Maybe that had something to do with why Ricky would vote to get him off the team.


Posted by: bclapham---------------------

i dont know what the fuss is about. send your best team, so the two points leaders from both classes (RC and Sause), and the next guy in points from the premier class (KW). It a team race, and why would anyone want anything other than their strongest team???????

as for Brownie, seems like some bad karma has caught up with him- the AMA did him a favour really, he has already had is ass handed to him in Europe once this year.


Posted by: 380EXCman---------------------

Just because Tedesco is leading the series at "THIS" point does not make him the better GP or even outdoor rider!

It may very well be that Mike brown has some other issues that we dont know about and letting him off like this is better for him than quiting.


Posted by: DWreck---------------------

Found this at Racer X.




August 25, 2005

Open Letter to the Fans from Ricky Carmichael

August 25th, 2005

I wish that I could write one of these when everything was perfect. Maybe next time?

I am writing this to hopefully shed a little light on this mess with Brownie and the MXDN. I want to begin by letting you know that Mike and I have not had any falling out at all. Mike has been a guest of mine for weeks at a time this season and is always welcome at my house. I have always been there for Mike and consider him a valued friend. This has not changed.

I am a little upset about the press release that Dan Dilkey wrote this week. I understand that he is upset for Mike and he wants to make his opinion known, but he doesn't seem to have his facts straight. For instance, Dan wrote about a meeting that did not include Mike, implying that he was not invited. The fact is that Mike had already left the track and was to be included in the brief meeting that Kevin and I attended with Steve Whitelock on Sunday after the race. This meeting covered several topics ranging from approving our helmet designs for the team to the hotel information for the trip to a possible film crew following us to document our trip and of course our concern for Mike with his struggles these past few weeks.

Regarding Mike, Kevin and I made it clear that as riders we should NOT be put in a position to pick the team. We are totally committed to the MXDN and don't just want to go, we want to win. However, we should not be put in a position to pick the team or in this case to determine if a chosen rider should be removed from the team. I suggested at this meeting that in the future we should send the 125 Outdoor National Champion, the 250 Outdoor National Champ and the next best available rider. (If an American rider does not win the Championship then the highest ranking American rider would be chosen.) My hope would be that every rider would start the outdoor season hoping to do well enough to be chosen for the team. When we left the meeting we were told by Steve that he would be speaking to Mike and that he would follow up with us.

Let me remind you that Mike and I have spent a lot of time together lately. We have ridden together, trained together and even traveled together on a private jet that I had arranged for the East Coast events. Mike attended dinner at my Mom and Dad's house for "Family Night" every Tuesday--he is family. We have discussed the issues that Mike has been having with his equipment and the difficulty of racing at the top level as a privateer. I have seen how frustrated that Mike has become these past few weeks; he even packed up his stuff after Millville and left my house without saying anything because he was so frustrated. When asked by my mechanic where he was going, Mike told him that he was going home and that maybe they should pick someone else to ride on the MXDN team. I knew that he was just frustrated and didn't take his leaving as anything other than that. I'm also sure that being at home with his wife and son would also help his spirits.

Like me, Mike is super-competitive. He wears his heart on his sleeve and kills himself to win. I think that his struggles over the past several rounds of the series are bothering him more than this MXDN trip. I try to remind myself that Mike did not write the press release and I understand that people around him are very upset about this decision. I spoke to Mike on Tuesday night before the press release went out and he and I are fine; that's why I was so surprised to see the message online the next day.

I feel bad for Steve Whitelock too. The MXDN venture is extremely expensive and packed with pressure for everyone. The manufacturers are absorbing a huge expense to send over a full staff with parts and equipment with the expectation of winning. I'm sure that Steve has been pulled in all directions and will take the blame for most of this decision even though I'm sure that it was not his decision alone.

In closing let me say that I'm sorry for Mike. If I was the reason that he is not on the team I would say so. I will also tell you that I still plan to give 100% effort to win the MXDN and will back the team that we are sending.

Thanks as always,

RC


Posted by: SpDyKen---------------------

Thanks DWreck. I would have found it eventually, but nice to read it here first. Still more unknown, but RC is laying his perspective out there, much to his credit. Thanks, RC.


Posted by: Vic---------------------

RC is very cool.




Posted by: dirt bike dave---------------------

Yeah, I figured RC would not stab his buddy in the back.

I blame the AMA for announcing the original team too early. They never should have put Brown on the team if they thought they would cut him for falling of the podium in the 125 nationals.

IMO, once they put him on the team they should have kept him on unless he got injured.


Posted by: nephron---------------------

A bullet dodged, and still no answer as to who made the decision. I like RC, but that was a lame response, IMO...that is, unless he's thinking of running for Senate.


Posted by: Ryone---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by bclapham
i dont know what the fuss is about. send your best team, so the two points leaders from both classes (RC and Sause), and the next guy in points from the premier class (KW).


Yeah, that's what they did. They selected the two points leaders when Brown was leading the points... not Tedesco. To back out on Brown now, whether he's having a tough time or not, isn't right. I'm not a big fan of Brown, but he's at a big disadvantage because of his privateer status. If he was getting the starts like everybody else, I think the standings right now would be a little different. His "Jim's Motorcycle" ride isn't as good as the factory and Pro-Circuit bikes... even though he has PC parts.

Ryan


Posted by: Ryone---------------------

Here's DeCoster's interview from DMXS radio. I don't agree with a LOT of things he's saying here. He said that being on DMXS is more important than winning the first 250 championship with RC. What? Also, he seems to be fueling a fire in which he doesn't have the facts (Relations between Brown and RC)

Here's the LINK


Posted by: nephron---------------------

I think it's called sarcasm .


Posted by: funktree---------------------

you know how DJ's are, it's like when you win something on the radio, you have to say I love KSUX or whatever.


Posted by: Ryone---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by nephron
I think it's called sarcasm .

See... if they would've inserted the [Laughs] after he said that, I would've realized it. You gotta excuse me, I'm a little slow.

Ryan


Posted by: dante---------------------

It's a lame to kick Brown out after selecting him, printing up a bunch of shirts and just clipping him like that... Make a decision and stick to it... Just because of the last few races results they clip him like that... I think that's pretty unamerican if you ask me... Brown would have done great...


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

So you make a decision to rep the States and one of them is stinkin it up... just go with it? He's not the guy you signed?


Posted by: bclapham---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by dante
unamerican if you ask me......


what??? come off it, people get dropped from teams all the time. If your star quaterback keeps getting sacked or cant throw a pass, do you play him all year???

get over it guys, Mikey started some bad karma and he got some back.


Posted by: ellandoh---------------------

send the wrong guy and we dont win when we could have.................that would be something to about


Posted by: zcookie49---------------------

Overall, Hindsight says they announced the team too soon and should wait until the last moment possible to announce the team.
No matter what they would choose to do, it is a win/lose situation.
chances are brownie wouldn't have done well . (I could be wrong, but thats the way it is looking now). Keep him on the team to appease the fans, and the team looses, its a win/lose.....kick him off the team and the team wins, its a win/lose, win the race, but lose to the fans who think Brown was shown a disservice. Rc was quick to promote him early becaue he said brown got dissed with 9/11 incident. RC must know he isnt up to speed to have been able to have meetings to change it up and have him replaced.
.
I agree with BClaphams analogy. Should a pro sports team keep an aging, declining star athlete on the team to appease the fans, or replace him with a better performer and have a chance to win the title... And that is what the goal of the Des Nations is, to bring home the title.
I agree that Brownie got shafted, but business is business and when not viewed that way, ie personal, it is harder to swallow.
.
As for the Pro Circuit rumors, it would be easier for me to live with the decision that he was got per his recent performance, then to know it was that PC wanted their own rider/equipment there...that is pure rumor going around now though.


Posted by: nephron---------------------

I've got a couple ??'s....

1) For all you guys that want to take the currently fastest guy out there, all Brown has to do is ride decently at Steel and if Alessi and Short get in front of Tedesco, then what will you want to do? We all know how Alessi did at Steel last year???????? My money is on him to win it, and a viable situation is to have Alessi win the recent 2 races and Brown end up first in points again, and then what?

2) How's Tedesco getting permission from Kawasaki to go? Wasn't long ago that Kawasaki was certain none of their riders would be allowed to go.

This sucks. Plain and simple.


Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by nephron
2) How's Tedesco getting permission from Kawasaki to go? Wasn't long ago that Kawasaki was certain none of their riders would be allowed to go.

Tedesco does not ride for Kawasaki per se . . . and if they hassle him, he's supposedly jumping ship to Suzuki anyhow.

If Mitch wanted to prove that he does not play favorites to whoever is using his engine work (Brown) vs. his own team (Tedesco), the best way, in my not so important opinion, is to let Tedesco ride the bike he's been riding all year and put Suzuki plastic on it.

I'm not sure that came out the way I wanted it to, but I hope you all catch my drift.


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

It's not about one race Pred... it's how they do over the season.


Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Okiewan
It's not about one race Pred... it's how they do over the season.

and I don't understand what that means in comparison to what I said, but I'm still confused at what I was trying to say . . .

maybe I need to draw myself some pictures


Posted by: dante---------------------

.
As for the Pro Circuit rumors, it would be easier for me to live with the decision that he was got per his recent performance, then to know it was that PC wanted their own rider/equipment there...that is pure rumor going around now though.[/QUOTE]



I heard about those rumors also... Honda wanted to lend Brown, Andrew Shorts Bike for MXDN... and Browns sponsors wanted him to ride their bike...


Posted by: Wolf---------------------

I'm late to the party, as always, sorry.
My 2 cents
To put the selection process in riders hands is dangerous. To let a rider, or riders have influence over the selection process is dangerous... to not have a clear selection process in place is plain stupid, as even the distinguished MR. Whitelock may have realized by now. The privilege to represent your country at an international event can not be granted based upon subjective views of a selected few. It will NEVER work, there will ALWAYS be debate, arguments, bad blood. It has to be through qualification...i.e, race results and point standings at a certain cut off date. Simple as that.

Brownie got caught in something he should not have been caught in, the lack of capability of the AMA.(..unfortunately this seems to be the only constant with this organisation).
It really doesn't matter if you like Brownie or not, if you think he should go or not...thats not the point. The point is that he was asked to commit and then got canned...and that, in my humble opinion, is wrong.


Posted by: bclapham---------------------

you guys are gonna win anyway so quit whining like a bunch of menopausal old hags.

but if you want something to complain about, start with them ugly ssed graphics they have.


Posted by: SpDyKen---------------------

[ the lack of capability of the AMA.(..unfortunately this seems to be the only constant with this organization).

The point is that he was asked to commit and then got canned...and that, in my humble opinion, is wrong.[/QUOTE]

Amen to both points!!! At least we all KNOW the AMA IS consistent !!!


Posted by: marcusgunby---------------------

I think the us will win and make the rest look a little slow i think to win the mxdn seems so important to the us side that they will not compromise on a slow rider letting the team down.


Posted by: 380EXCman---------------------

Tedesco is going to be out of his element. He has not traditionally been a good outdoor rider and his decent showings this year have been a fluke and due to a lack of consistency of better riders. The Des Nations is not a series of races. Its ONE event. Even with Brown out of the picture Tedesco is not our best option for this one race.


Posted by: Ryone---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by 380EXCman
...his decent showings this year have been a fluke and due to a lack of consistency of better riders.

Championships aren't won by flukes. Tedesco is a 2X Supercross champion. The guy can ride a bike. He is NOT the fastest out there, but the most consistent.
He has worked extremely hard to get where he is in the points now. He's smart, patient, determined and fast.
If he places horribly at the MXdN, that can be considered a fluke.

Ryan


Posted by: marcusgunby---------------------

He just looks pretty fast to me in mx or sx.



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