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Reed speaks his mind

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Posted by: portish---------------------

good on chad for not being a robot in his interviews and saying wat he thought about ivan, i love it when the riders start having goes at each other on the podium, wether they're right or wrong. it gets boring when they're super nice to each other, i wanna see a battle damn it.

now i wanna see bubba calling chad and ricky chumps. haha



Posted by: Vic---------------------

If you can't beat them on the track, beat them with your flappin' lips.





Posted by: OldTimer---------------------

I thought he was gonna cry.
It looks to me like he's on the verge of giving up hope of ever catching RC/Bubba, and now he seems just plain frustrated and kinda... well... not panicy, but at a loss as to what it's gonna take to get into the running for first.



Posted by: tony91---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by OldTimer
I thought he was gonna cry.


Right...The guy was distraught! I'll be interesting to see if he can get on pace with RC and JS. He'll have to get his head right to do it.

Can't blame Ivan for trying to protect the podium spot though.



Posted by: TheJunkMan---------------------

Speaking of Ivan, He is transitioning well into the Premier class.



Posted by: portish---------------------

ya ivans definatly picked it up



Posted by: BEEF706---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheJunkMan
Speaking of Ivan, He is transitioning well into the Premier class.

Yep and he has always gotten better during the year, I am proud of my ex NM homie Nice kid too!



Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Hey I guess Reed believes since we all consider him in the top three, everyone else has an obligation to give up points.

If those words would have come out of JS' mouth there would be an internet sheet storm. Funny how that works.



Posted by: JMD---------------------

Okie: Still beating that "poor JBS" drum? Sheesh.



Posted by: wyatt---------------------

Yeah poor bubba,

I was on my way to being a bubba fan, then the "sprinklers" dances ect all while sandbagging the 125 class. People got sick of it. And Stewart paid the price. Now James has matured and
now is the man to beat, now he can drop the show and show the other riders the go. Whoa dont peg me a bubba fan yet
RC is still the man. Why is RC so stoked when he wins?
Every win could be the last no one can stay on top forever.



Posted by: BEEF706---------------------

I actually thought Reed was being a little whiney, But I thought it is because I am an Ivan fan, I do think that JS gets a little more bad press than anyone else (last season sepecially) bevause he was percieved as cocky, less so this ayear i think. Still not ready to abandon my position as driver of the RC parade float.



Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by JMD
Okie: Still beating that "poor JBS" drum? Sheesh.
The crap he took last year for being a kid was over the top. It wasn't "poor JS" it was "disgusted at the haters". No one deserves the crap the internet spewed. You were one of that pack if I recall. Wanna pull up some old posts just for fun? What was the nickname you had for him? Bowfish?



Posted by: funktree---------------------

Reed always looks like he is about to cry about this point in the season except the year RC was out, he is always there at the end though, and he didn't screw himself by getting a 16th in the first race this year.



Posted by: JST122---------------------

Tedesco has no obligation to get out of anyone's way it still is racing right??? Why should he just lay down and give up a podium spot when he is out there battling for position the same as anyone else. I didnt hear Reeds comments except for what was on TV, supposedly he called Tedesco out for holding him up or something on the internet broadcast? Does anyone have a transcript of what he said or know where I can listen to it?



Posted by: HOT C---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by JST122
Tedesco has no obligation to get out of anyone's way it still is racing right??? Why should he just lay down and give up a podium spot when he is out there battling for position the same as anyone else. I didnt hear Reeds comments except for what was on TV, supposedly he called Tedesco out for holding him up or something on the internet broadcast? Does anyone have a transcript of what he said or know where I can listen to it?
It doesn't matter what he said about him,he just wants to beat his ass, kill him, cook him and eat him, before he takes over the last podium spot,because he is gaining ground on him week by week, so the show down is gonna be RC vs BUBBA in 1st and 2nd and CR vs IT#9 in 3rd and 4th .



Posted by: JMD---------------------

Okie, let's keep this in perspective. We're just a bunch of spectators exercising our God-given right to criticize our celebrities. People who can't handle that should stay out of the limelight. And it was "Bowfinger."



Posted by: OldTimer---------------------

I wonder....
If it came down to it in the last race of the season and CR and Ivan came together...
Would CR stand on Ivan's front wheel and try to press the kill switch?
Nah... that'd be crazy wouldn't it?



Posted by: JST122---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by HOT C
It doesn't matter what he said about him,he just wants to beat his ass, kill him, cook him and eat him, before he takes over the last podium spot,because he is gaining ground on him week by week, so the show down is gonna be RC vs BUBBA in 1st and 2nd and CR vs IT#9 in 3rd and 4th .



I dont understand what you are getting at. I just want to hear what it is that Reed said about his battle with Tedesco that everyone is talking about. During the TV interview he basically just said that battling for 3rd to 4th isnt a good battle after Voda said "wow you had a good battle with Tedesco, tell us about it". It is just a fact of him being frustrated in his performance and the fact that right now he doesnt have the speed for RC and Stewart. I agree that it is shaping up for a RC-Stewart battle for 1-2 but Reed still has a handle on Tedesco without a problem. Sure Tedesco can race with him a bit but honestly Reed has the speed over Tedesco without a problem. I wouldnt expect too much of a battle to heat up there. Tedesco is definitely the next fastest guy out of the top 3 right now but he still doesnt have anything for RC, JS, or CR on a weekly basis.



Posted by: HOT C---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by OldTimer
I wonder....
If it came down to it in the last race of the season and CR and Ivan came together...
Would CR stand on Ivan's front wheel and try to press the kill switch?
Nah... that'd be crazy wouldn't it?
Yes he would, and run over him too. Now tell me if Ivan ever gonna get near CR.



Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by HOT C
Yes he would, and run over him too. Now tell me if Ivan ever gonna get near CR.
Okay, you lost me. Pretty sure Ivan was all over CR last weekend.



Posted by: HOT C---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Okiewan
Okay, you lost me. Pretty sure Ivan was all over CR last weekend.
Its just a joke okie, you know CR is a classy guy i dont think he would stoop that low. I dont care what anybody says about him, i think, about the Ivan incident, CR was just having a bad race/day or something.



Posted by: HOT C---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by JST122
I dont understand what you are getting at. I just want to hear what it is that Reed said about his battle with Tedesco that everyone is talking about. During the TV interview he basically just said that battling for 3rd to 4th isnt a good battle after Voda said "wow you had a good battle with Tedesco, tell us about it". It is just a fact of him being frustrated in his performance and the fact that right now he doesnt have the speed for RC and Stewart. I agree that it is shaping up for a RC-Stewart battle for 1-2 but Reed still has a handle on Tedesco without a problem. Sure Tedesco can race with him a bit but honestly Reed has the speed over Tedesco without a problem. I wouldnt expect too much of a battle to heat up there. Tedesco is definitely the next fastest guy out of the top 3 right now but he still doesnt have anything for RC, JS, or CR on a weekly basis.
That was just a joke, but i heard him calling Ivan a CHUMP for holding him up too long. You know you can re-play the live webcast to hear what he said about Ivan after the race interview.



Posted by: JST122---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by HOT C
You know you can re-play the live webcast to hear what he said about Ivan after the race interview.


Yeah I realized that after I posted it, thanks though. I am going to have to go and play it because I have to hear it for myself.



Posted by: john3_16---------------------

I thought I heard CR say that Ivan was riding like a chump....But I thought, " no way, maybe he said Ivan was riding tough"...I guess I couldn't believe it when I heard it because I've never heard CR act that way before...But I have noticed that when he's disappointed his face really shows it..

CR has shown a pattern of being a slow starter and doing better as the season wears on...I have a feeling that we'll see him pick up speed and doing much better in the second half of the season.



Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by john3_16
CR has shown a pattern of being a slow starter and doing better as the season wears on...I have a feeling that we'll see him pick up speed and doing much better in the second half of the season.


Reed has shown a pattern of winning a championship when neither The Leprechaun nor Jimmy Stewart are racing in his class.



Posted by: Vic---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by XRpredator
Reed has shown a pattern of winning a championship when neither The Leprechaun nor Jimmy Stewart are racing in his class.






Posted by: Solid State---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by XRpredator
Reed has shown a pattern of winning a championship when neither The Leprechaun nor Jimmy Stewart are racing in his class.


Once does not make a pattern!



Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Solid State
Once does not make a pattern!
Yes, but twice does.



Posted by: dante---------------------

It is kinda suprising that Reed would call Ivan a chump, but to his credit Ivan seemed to hold up Rickey for a few laps also... Rickey had to block pass Ivan to get buy... Maybe Ivan was helping his team mate later by holding up Reed, but it's more likley that he was trying his hardest to get the best result that he could and thats his job...



Posted by: Solid State---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Okiewan
Yes, but twice does.


My bad. Bubba raced West in '02.



Posted by: Benny477---------------------

Reed did the same thing last year after the mud race at A1 then caught fire.He`s lead and been past in the first two races cause ricky and bubba take turns goin down so he`s gonna put it together soon I think. It`s too bad Kevin Windham isn`t in the mix that would make things even more interesting.As good as Mc and Ricky have been in supercross it`s been kinda boring with the one man show all the time.It`s nice to see some competition for a change.



Posted by: Micahdawg---------------------

Do you guys think part of Reeds frustration may stem from the fact that Tedesco is new to the class?

Heads up, I think most will concede that Reed is faster than Tedesco. Tedesco is fast, but Reed's got him. And considering he hasn't really paid his dues yet (with just couple races under his belt)....then yeah, i can see why Reed would be pissed. Under near perfect conditions, Reed still has a hard time staying with Carmichael and Bubba, but having to screw around with Tedesco puts him out of the picture.

Not my opinion....but just trying to explain what Reed may have been thinking.

In the end, that's racing. And it's nothing personal as Tedesco was holding RC up too. So maybe his unwillingness to move aside will help Reed later.

I give Ivan props for stepping up into a pool of sharks though and not sandbagging back in the 125's. Plus he's a great rider.

Micah



Posted by: Ryone---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Micahdawg
Do you guys think part of Reeds frustration may stem from the fact that Tedesco is new to the class?
...
I give Ivan props for stepping up into a pool of sharks though and not sandbagging back in the 125's. Plus he's a great rider.


I see exactly where you're coming from, and I agree with you. The only issue I have with the whole deal is that:

Since Reed IS faster than Ivan... why couldn't he just get by him and gap him like RC and JS did? Reed's just frustrated. If Ivan would've moved over, Reed still wouldn't have caught RC and JS. And, if Reed would've started out front... I'm willing to bet that both RC and JS would've caught and passed him.

I really like your last statement about Ivan not sandbagging. Ivan definitely has some nads to race with these guys, and he's also very level-headed and drama free. (boring to some, cool to others)

Ryan



Posted by: Chili---------------------

Bottom line Tedesco was not getting lapped, the pass was for a position and in no way should Tedesco move over because Reed feels he is the superior rider. If you feel he held you up for an unnecessarily long time perhaps it's time to go back to the practice track and work on passing your teammates, or ask Yamaha if they can get you some teammates to practice with since no other Yamaha made the main. It may also be time to work on your starts since last I checked that is an important part of the race so you don't need to try to get past slower riders.



Posted by: HiG4s---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Micahdawg
Do you guys think part of Reeds frustration may stem from the fact that Tedesco is new to the class?



I think CR's frustration stems from the fact he is faster than last year, much faster then two years ago, and still can't hang with RC or JS.. His only hope is those, instead of falling one at a time so he can get second, take each other out so he can get first.
I'm a Reed fan, but realistically, JS is a slim favorite for the championship, RC the underdog, but not much of one and might just pull it off, but Reed is the odds on favorite for 3rd.



Posted by: lukesh40---------------------

"Every win could be the last no one can stay on top forever."

Right on to that



Posted by: Vic---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chili
Bottom line Tedesco was not getting lapped, the pass was for a position and in no way should Tedesco move over because Reed feels he is the superior rider. If you feel he held you up for an unnecessarily long time perhaps it's time to go back to the practice track and work on passing your teammates, or ask Yamaha if they can get you some teammates to practice with since no other Yamaha made the main. It may also be time to work on your starts since last I checked that is an important part of the race so you don't need to try to get past slower riders.







Posted by: HOT C---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by HiG4s
I think CR's frustration stems from the fact he is faster than last year, much faster then two years ago, and still can't hang with RC or JS.. His only hope is those, instead of falling one at a time so he can get second, take each other out so he can get first.
I'm a Reed fan, but realistically, JS is a slim favorite for the championship, RC the underdog, but not much of one and might just pull it off, but Reed is the odds on favorite for 3rd.




Posted by: tony91---------------------

From TWMX:

Word we hear is that Chad had some unpleasant things to say to you afterwards…
(Laughs) I think he was really frustrated after the race. He was pointing his finger at me like he was going to get me back next weekend, so I rode right up to him to see what he had to say. My adrenaline was going too, and I didn’t think that what I did to him was dirty; I just kind of stuffed him. We exchanged some words. It wasn’t real pretty, but that’s the way it is.

I think he thought I was really holding him up. Those guys are so used to everyone just letting them by. Not clowning on any of the other guys, but I am the new guy in my class and I am paid to race everyone as hard as I can. I am not gonna let up and let Ricky by because he is my teammate. We are all in the same race, and racing means that you try as hard as you can.

Did you actually hear him call you a chump on the podium?
No, but I had some people come back to the semi and tell me about it. I am sure he was frustrated and Reed is one of those guys who gets all emotional on the podium, so I guess he just said some dumb things. I wouldn’t say that it was right, but he was frustrated and got a little excited up there and said some things that he shouldn’t have.



Posted by: dirt bike dave---------------------

I'm liking Tedesco more and more. A little rivalry with Reed? Cool! What a great season we are having in '06.

Go Hot Sauce!



Posted by: kelsorat---------------------

I think Chili made an excellent point. Hot Sauce wasn't a lapper. Ivan has the speed and the credentials to make any racer work to pass him. None of this move aside crap to let Reed by.



Posted by: Micahdawg---------------------

So now we got the Bubs/RC rivalry and the Ivan/Reed rivalry.

I like what Tedesco said about everything except for this:

"I am not gonna let up and let Ricky by because he is my teammate."

To which all I have to say is.....we'll see what he thinks about racing with teammates the first time he and RC both go down because he doesn't let RC go by.

He was right about everything else...you race as hard as you can, but you do need to have consideration for your teammates.

Micah



Posted by: tony91---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Micahdawg
He was right about everything else...you race as hard as you can, but you do need to have consideration for your teammates.
Micah


I think he did have consideration. He gave RC a little more room then say...CR. But he shouldn't just fold-up when ever RC is coming. Ivan is a Champ....not a "chump"



Posted by: Ryone---------------------

A good conversation with Reedy on Racer X:

Link--> Reed Interview
I think he spoke his mind well and didn't sound like a crybaby. It's also pretty cool what he said about some people wanting a "corporate" robot on the podium, and others wanting guys to show emotion. The long and short of this whole thing is that he's right... no matter what these guys do, they can't please everybody.

I mean, look at RC. He did no wrong whatsoever in outdoors this summer but Pred still hates him

Ryan



Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryone
I mean, look at RC. He did no wrong whatsoever in outdoors this summer but Pred still hates him

Damn right.




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