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Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Just Watch It!!!!

Posted by: Thump---------------------

No kidding. 12 eastern?

Posted by: Reesknight---------------------

Sounded like an awesome race! RC comes back to take the lead, then gives it back up to JS on the last lap. Unbelievable comeback by Reed, 17th to 5th. I thought he was gonna blow the hole season again with another mud race. Congrats to Alessi for his first podium in SX. Can't wait to watch it tomorrow! The goveror of Utah rides MX? Thinkin about movin

Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Thump brought-up a good point... Since JS lapped 3rd place, he actually got a 1st and a 3rd, lol. RC got a 2nd and 4th. Great charge by Reed to not give the season away. Congrats to NYK!

Posted by: wardy---------------------

Boy now that would screw up there point totals, and you know what, I wonder how far that protest would go HA!

Course you can only "take" the checkered flag ONCE.

sure shows how MORE diverse those two riders are compared to the rest.

wardy

Posted by: rickyd---------------------

That was fun!! RIght before the evening started, im standing in a covered area, look down and Nyk Wey is standing beside me.. I'll post a pic tomorrow..
Notice RC sounds even more excited when the race is close??

Posted by: HOT C---------------------

That was a true test of best of the best on 2 wheels in the world today, no excuse at all. Both these 2 guys JBS and RC deserve to be called 2wheel kings, how about N Wey,this guy has always been underated in this class but i think with a little bit of time he is capable of running with the top 3. How about JBS's dad congratulating and thanking RC for a good race at the podium, a cool guy as always.

Posted by: dirt bike dave---------------------

Listened on the web and can't wait to watch it! This season is absolutely living up to the hype.

I don't think the leaders have ever lapped third place in a 12 lap race! Unbelievable. There was 1 lap where RC and JBS were 10 seconds faster than the next fastest rider! They were averaging 5+ seconds faster than Wey.

Chad really showed heart coming back from 17th to 5th in a shortened race. Shoot, if it had been 20 laps he would have been on the podium.

I am annoyed the AMA shortened the SX main to only 12 laps (and 8 laps for the Lites). I don't think they should ever shorten it to less than 15 laps for SX and 12 for Lites. Other than that, it was a great night of racing!

Posted by: HOT C---------------------

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Originally Posted by dirt bike dave

Listened on the web and can't wait to watch it! This season is absolutely living up to the hype.

I don't think the leaders have ever lapped third place in a 12 lap race! Unbelievable. There was 1 lap where RC and JBS were 10 seconds faster than the next fastest rider! They were averaging 5+ seconds faster than Wey.

Chad really showed heart coming back from 17th to 5th in a shortened race. Shoot, if it had been 20 laps he would have been on the podium.

I am annoyed the AMA shortened the SX main to only 12 laps (and 8 laps for the Lites). I don't think they should ever shorten it to less than 15 laps for SX and 12 for Lites. Other than that, it was a great night of racing!

Can you imagine how hard it is to ride a motorcycle in such conditions for even 2 laps ? ask RC or other riders who had to pull off their goggles. I think shortening the laps was a wise and fair move by the AMA, for the safety of the riders because we still have a long season and need all these guys healthy for the duration of the season.

Posted by: dirt bike dave---------------------

Ask the fans who paid to see 15 laps of Lites and 20 laps of SX main what they think.

If they had raced 15 laps instead of 12 I don't think you would have heard RC or JBS complain that the race was too long.

RC and JBS were relatively fresh on the podium. They are top conditioned athletes and they raced a grand total of about 15 minutes in the main and 8 minutes in their heats. They can take it. It's not tiring like, say, doing a muddy 100 mile enduro or a 2 hour cross country race. Hundreds of amatuers pay to do that every week. When Doug Henry won that GNCC race last year he was so tired someone else had to take him off his bike. Trust me, another 3 laps (4 minutes) of racing was not going to push any of the riders to that level of exhaustion.

Hell, I wanted to see them PUSHED to exhaustion. What's wrong with that? Someday I want to see an SX winner give a victory speech along the lines of "That was a war and I'm lucky to be alive. I'm too tired to even remember who my sponsors are. Thanks to my fans, but I've got to go lay down"

As for safety, tipping over at 5 mph in the mud is a relatively safe way to crash, compared to what these guys do every other round of the SX series.

Clean goggles - hey, their mechanics can carry sparess in bags. Dry gloves and some towels, too.

IMO, the main reason the race was shortened was so that it could fit the TV schedule. Either that, or 4 strokes can't do the full race distance if its muddy

Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

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IMO, the main reason the race was shortened was so that it could fit the TV schedule. Either that, or 4 strokes can't do the full race distance if its muddy

No doubt the TV thing. Oh and the only bike I heard about blowing-up was DV's 2 stroke

Posted by: nikki---------------------

And that other two-stroke, Brown, didn't even make the main. He only completed 2 laps in the 4 lap semi, and didn't make it out for the LCQ. Seems possible he had bike problems too?

I'll shut up now

Posted by: Reesknight---------------------

I believe they said Brown was set to switch to the 4 stroke for the remaining races. I was disappointed that MC didn't make the show. He crashed in the Heat and didn't even start the semi.
The announcers also brought up another interesting point. It was the unleaded fuel rule that killed the 2 stroke, not the displacement disadvantage. So maybe if the AMA would change the fuel restrictions back, we'd see more 2 strokes?

Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

And if we dig Abe Lincoln outta the ground and put about 20,000 volts thru him, maybe he'll wake up

Posted by: dirt bike dave---------------------

IMO, the leaded fuel arguement is grasping at straws. Leaded fuels alone will not bring the two strokes back to AMA SX.

In any event, the FIM is dead-set against leaded fuels. The AMA, to a certain extent, must follow the FIM, especially for a 'world' SX series.

Posted by: Reesknight---------------------

You guys are just trying to take all our hope away!

We have nothing left to grasp but straws

We could trying 20000 volts on Abe, but I think we'd have to fix the hole in his head first

Posted by: rickyd---------------------

I wish it would of been more laps too, the riders could handle it, i dont think the flaggers and track workers could handle it though.. Those guys busted their butts pulling bikes out etc.. Hats off too them for their hard work in putting on a great race

Posted by: nephron---------------------

Couldn't get the broadcast. Can't watch it, in lieu of the 700 Club telethon...at least until 2/4/06, one day after AIII is aired.

issed:

Posted by: ellandoh---------------------

those guys now know how it feels to get around the track at my speed

seriously though, why dont they make the track out of sand, it gets better with some rain??

Posted by: F150Motocrosser---------------------

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Originally Posted by nephron

Couldn't get the broadcast. Can't watch it, in lieu of the 700 Club telethon...at least until 2/4/06, one day after AIII is aired.

issed:

holy crap that sucks!!!!

What a race!! Reminded me of old Emig/McGrath battles.

I can't beleive bubba didnt get injured on that case at the end.. ouch! It must of just fired him up more cause he came out charging afterwards. RC and JS lapping the whole field is just further proof that they are on a different level then every other rider!

I don't know how crazy I am bout CBS's coverage.. I say bring back Art Eckman!

Posted by: Reesknight---------------------

I'm not too crazy about the coverage either, they didn't even mention MC or show Reed's comeback. I'm sure they shortened the race so the TRT would be close to what it would be if it was dry. That was an awesome race! Do you think if they would have went 2 more laps, they would have lapped themselves?

Posted by: JustinC---------------------

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Originally Posted by F150Motocrosser

I don't know how crazy I am bout CBS's coverage.. I say bring back Art Eckman!

I am not happy with the coverage myself. I wish they would show the semi's and lqc races instead of that mini Chad Reed documentary.

Posted by: dirt bike dave---------------------

Great race!

Gotta hand it to RC and JBS. Amazing. The only plus in having a shorter race is if one of them had DNF in the last laps, it would have really screwed up the points.

Reed is famous for his late season heroics, so he is not out of this thing yet.

Finally, a great SX season!

Posted by: HOT C---------------------

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Originally Posted by dirt bike dave

Reed is famous for his late season heroics, so he is not out of this thing yet.

Finally, a great SX season!

I think Reed was riding over his head, he posted the fastest heat race time of the day at .59sec may be the reason why he went down twice in the main ?

Posted by: JST122---------------------

I was there and it was a wet miserable day for the racing. It stayed dry throughout most of the morning and afternoon so we were able to do the pit walk in some decent weather and it looked like the rain might hold off until around 4:30 when it really started coming down. But come practice and race time the track was pretty much drenched. Despite the ridiculously slow speeds, both classes were pretty exciting. I missed the usual show with rider introductions and hot laps for the fans since all of that was cut out due to track conditions but the racing was still good.

The main reason they cut the race short was just because of the fact that the track had deteriorated so much and lap times were so slow that we would have been there until 2a.m. had they kept all the races at scheduled length. They actually cut the laps on the semi's and lcq's as well as the main events. All in all it was still a good show but I would have liked to see a dry battle with the full length show for sure. But Im just glad I got to be there soaking wet and all, it was good racing, and I am glad it didnt destroy the top guys championship hopes too badly, everyone is still in the hunt, but Reed is slowly slipping out of the championship race. Dont give up on him yet though, there are lots of races left to contest and anything can happen.

Posted by: JST122---------------------

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Originally Posted by Reesknight

I was disappointed that MC didn't make the show. He crashed in the Heat and didn't even start the semi.

MC did crash in his heat but he also did race the semi as well. He had a decent start but then got pinched off by a bunch of riders in the first seeping turn and then the carnage in front of him set him back pretty far. He just didnt seem to have the pace out there in the mud once he did get going.

Posted by: rickyd---------------------

I think MC may of got hurt in that pile up in the first turn, or broke a lever or something..

I think one 4 stroke let go too, Tyler Evans bike was pouring smoke..
After the race, we stayed in the stadium for about 20 minutes (didnt want too deal w/the crowd, the whole place smelled like burnt clutch

Posted by: rickyd---------------------

Anybody think the factory teams should have a bike like a CRF450x for a mud race?? Use the factory suspension and the majic button..

Posted by: funktree---------------------

they showed MC as DNS in the semi on the ama laptimes thingie

Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

If the announcers were right and Reed was 17th with 5-6 laps left, I have NO IDEA how he got to 5th. Amazing. Most of the field must have fallen over. I can't believe I'm saying it, but that was fun to watch. I generally don't care to watch fast guys looking like me (on a perfecty groomed track).

Posted by: CAVSCOUT96---------------------

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Originally Posted by F150Motocrosser

I don't know how crazy I am bout CBS's coverage.. I say bring back Art Eckman!

CBS next day is still better than someone else a week or two later and in the middle of the workday!!

I do agree though tah someone needs to let those guys know we don;t call the Moguls?!!?!?!?

BM

Posted by: jboomer---------------------

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at least until 2/4/06, one day after AIII is aired.

Where did you hear this? Official?

Posted by: apb---------------------

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Originally Posted by JST122

I was there and it was a wet miserable day for the racing. It stayed dry throughout most of the morning and afternoon so we were able to do the pit walk in some decent weather and it looked like the rain might hold off until around 4:30 when it really started coming down. But come practice and race time the track was pretty much drenched.

And of course, today, is all bright, warm, and sunny here in SF..

oh well, still was a good race to watch.

Posted by: CAVSCOUT96---------------------

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Originally Posted by JustinC

I am not happy with the coverage myself. I wish they would show the semi's and lqc races instead of that mini Chad Reed documentary.

TOTALLY AGREE. Last week it was the JS mini-doc and this week CR. JST show the racing man!! Most SX fans know more about the riders than the FBI anyway

Posted by: F150Motocrosser---------------------

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Originally Posted by CAVSCOUT96

CBS next day is still better than someone else a week or two later and in the middle of the workday!!

BM

no i definetly agree with that, the next day coverage rocks.. I'm just not too keen on CBS's format

Posted by: Reesknight---------------------

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Originally Posted by JST122

Thanks for the correction. The webcast announcers said he got a DNS, which could just mean that he started the semi, but didn't complete a lap.
I'm with you Okie, I don't know how CR could have made up that many positions. I wouldn't have been suprised to see him with the fasted lap time.

Posted by: JST122---------------------

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Originally Posted by funktree

they showed MC as DNS in the semi on the ama laptimes thingie

He definitely started the semi, I saw him in the race. He got cut off pretty bad in the first turn and then looked like he was struggling pretty bad and got passed pretty consistently. I dont think he finished the first lap, I lost track of him out there after the first few corners, so I am pretty sure he dropped out before he even finished a lap.

Posted by: JST122---------------------

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Originally Posted by apb

And of course, today, is all bright, warm, and sunny here in SF..

oh well, still was a good race to watch.

Yeah I know it, pretty nice week of weather here and then for race day we receive the bad weather and today beautiful blue skies. Go figure

Posted by: funktree---------------------

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Originally Posted by JST122

wow the internet announcers missed something, first time thats happened

good to know that MC tried, I know he is part time but was dissapointed when they said he didn't show up to the gate.

Posted by: TheGrinch---------------------

Slightly off topic, but what has happened to Andrew MacFarlane in the Lites. I haven't seen his name in the results for the past 2 races.

Posted by: AngryCandy---------------------

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Originally Posted by rickyd

Anybody think the factory teams should have a bike like a CRF450x for a mud race?? Use the factory suspension and the majic button..

I think Reed was wishing he was on a XR100 after trying to pick that big biotch up out of the mud.

Certainly didn't need the power (or weight) of a 450 last night.

Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Yeah, he could have had that "light weight, easy starting" 2-stroke DV was kicking on for a couple of laps

Last I heard, that "pig" finished 5th and ZERO 2-t's finished. But hey...

Posted by: funktree---------------------

why was DV back on a 2? did he say?

Posted by: wardy---------------------

LOL i liked all the smoke out there, those things were boiling big time. I thought it was pretty amazing the jumping they were doing. Have riden a few races in that kind of muck and its impressive as hell to see that. LOL RC needs longer legs! But it really tells who is the "all" around riders out there. MC is a dam good rider, but NEVER liked mud and has said so many times.

I think there should be at least 2 SX races like this, and if it doesn't rain, WATER the hell out of it.
ANYone who has raced in that stuff appreciates what those riders were doing.

wardy

oh an ya who cares what 'blew up" I still rather ride that on my 500 then a heavy ass turd

Since this post had that 2-4 in it by what the second page LOL.

Posted by: binthedirtnow---------------------

It was a great time last night. All I can say is Ryan Villapoto was awsome!

Posted by: LocoCD---------------------

Here's a little info I posted elsewhere..

I flagged the race (finish line jump area) and here are a couple up close and personal observations.

RC's collision was 100% his fault, many people were rolling jumps and the rider behind had to be careful. The fact that he picked up his bike and won the heat was amazing!

Stewart won because he took a few more chances and was faster in one small section every lap.

The course was almost unrideable, there were ruts nearly 2 feet deep into each jump face, everything was covered with a foot of snot (I have no idea where they got the crap they called dirt) , several bikes were so gummed up they couldn't move. It was physically impossible to even crawl up the jumps to help fallen riders. The corners had ruts mid-thigh deep.

The announcer was saying the bikes weighed 300+ pounds due to mud. That's bs, maybe 20-30 pounds - the bikes were well prepared with foam, etc.

Stewart missed that rider by inches on the finish line jump, it scared the crap out of me.

RC caught up the first time for one reason, he was able to double the finish jump 2 laps in a row when Bubba had to roll it due to lappers.

Reed was hauling once he got things sorted out.

Larocco could barely make it around the track.

Metcalf and Villopoto were carrying amazing cornering speed. I think Villopoto would have won if he hadn't tried to double the finish jump on the first lap.

It's fun to speculate how GNCCers and National enduro guys would have done. They might have handled the mud better, but they wouldn't even have been able to qualify. Combining the jumps with the conditions, this was really a VERY difficult event.

It would have been silly to extend the race to 20 laps, 12 was plenty, some of the best conditioned atheletes in the world aand they were toast.

Finally - on luck playing a big part in the event. Bubba and RC lapped the field. Luck had nothing to do with where they finished, the race was led and won by the best.

Best racing I've seen in years! And yes, the flaggers were beat.

Posted by: binthedirtnow---------------------

Having watched the entire event myself, LocoCD is dead on with every comment. Except for one - LaRocco and Tedesco rode excellent considering the conditions. The conditions were unbelievably difficult - no kidding at all, some of the corner ruts WERE thigh deep! All the riders who rode, or even attempted, are my heroes! But wow, Villapoto is really gonna be an awsome competitor in the future.

Posted by: funktree---------------------

how do you become a flagger? are you part of some dirt diggers like organization? I would love to even walk a pro supercross track just to see it that close.

Posted by: bordrshane---------------------

I was there. I dont really remember the race though. I had too many beers. I was telling everyone that I am bad ass in the mud and that I would have a chance. Ha, ya right. The 250 main was one of the best supercross races Ive ever seen. That was a great battle. Stewart had RC in that step on off section he was doing almost every lap. I was sure glad not to be a mechanic and have to clean the bikes. I would just throw them away.

Posted by: rickyd---------------------

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Originally Posted by LocoCD

Best racing I've seen in years! And yes, the flaggers were beat.

I was watchin the flaggers/track workers, runnin through the mud then having too lift a bike out of a rut.. You guys deserve some cold frostys

Tyler Evans bike was pourin out smoke, not sure if he finished or not..

Like him or not, Alessi did pretty good too
Villapoto

Posted by: nephron---------------------

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Where did you hear this? Official?

I looked it up on 'upcoming programs to record' on my TIVO, but was fuming at the time, so hey. I might be wrong. I'll look again.

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why was DV back on a 2? did he say?

BooKoo couldn't afford to keep the 4 stroke alive.

Posted by: JST122---------------------

I had to laugh at a couple of the flaggers at the end of the night. Especially the one guy who was down in the 180 degree turn before the last long rhythm section straightaway before the finish. He had to wave his yellow flag so often with all the riders going down in that corner and was getting spayed constantly. He needed a pair of tearoffs himself. Best part was that by the end of the night he was waving a mud brown flag. It wasnt even remotely close to yellow anymore. In fact if he dropped it on the track it would have blended in perfectly and he probably would have lost it!!

I wish I could have been down there getting sprayed by the pros roost.

Posted by: nephron---------------------

Can you imagine being on the DirtWerks crew? When do they have to have all that shat out of there???? I'd either wait for it to dry (SF--yeah, right), or knock out some wall and push it into the bay with a dozer. Turning the bucket upside down and shaking it every scoop doesn't sound fun to me. God bless 'em, those poor souls.

Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

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Originally Posted by nephron

Can you imagine being on the DirtWerks crew?

The SlopWerks crew

Posted by: dirtrocks---------------------

does anyone know how mike alessi finished? thanks

Posted by: JST122---------------------

Alessi finished 3rd.

Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Amp’d Mobile Western Regional AMA Supercross Lites Event Results, San Francisco
Nathan Ramsey, Menifee, Calif., KTM
Brett Metcalfe, Murrieta, Calif., Yamaha
Mike Alessi, Apple Valley, Calif., KTM
Jason Lawrence, Murrieta, Calif., Suzuki
Ryan Mills, Clintondale, N.Y., Suzuki
Ryan Villopoto, Poulsbo, Wash., Kawasaki
Billy Laninovich, Lake Elsinore, Calif., Honda
Paul Carpenter, Ithaca, N.Y., Honda
Ryan Morais, Menifee, Calif., Suzuki
Marco Dube, Quebec, Canada, Yamaha

Posted by: dirtrocks---------------------

thanks, seems he getting better and better every race

Posted by: Kawidude---------------------

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Originally Posted by Okiewan

Amp’d Mobile Western Regional AMA Supercross Lites Event Results, San Francisco
Nathan Ramsey, Menifee, Calif., KTM
Brett Metcalfe, Murrieta, Calif., Yamaha
Mike Alessi, Apple Valley, Calif., KTM
Jason Lawrence, Murrieta, Calif., Suzuki
Ryan Mills, Clintondale, N.Y., Suzuki
Ryan Villopoto, Poulsbo, Wash., Kawasaki
Billy Laninovich, Lake Elsinore, Calif., Honda
Paul Carpenter, Ithaca, N.Y., Honda
Ryan Morais, Menifee, Calif., Suzuki
Marco Dube, Quebec, Canada, Yamaha

I was a little surprised that Ramsey did that well. He went down several times in practice and that was before the track got real snotty. I guess he got all the bugs worked out in practice! I thought Langston would be on fire. He was the only guy jumping one of the big triples in practice, mud and everything.

Posted by: Someone---------------------

Man Directv sucks. I switched from Dishnetwork to Directv out of spite for losing OLN. Now I regret it. The CBS broadcasts look like a 10 year old VHS tape compared to Speed. Speed looks HD compared to CBS.

Pretty good race tho. I really wish KW was in the mix and Reed would pick it up. I was screaming when JBS couldn't hit the fnish double jump due to lappers. Then RC always had the timing to hit the double and make up a ton of ground. JBS did have the step on/off down tho, RC didn't seem to want to mess with it.

Posted by: LocoCD---------------------

Our motorcycle club has flagged the race all 4 years, we work directly with the AMA crew. Our web site is BushwackwersMC.com. We are always looking for 3-4 fill-in flaggers each year.

It is pretty cool having all access and being both on the track and up close to the racers. It's difficult to accurately describe the focus and intensity of the riders at race time, it is almost like a transformation takes place from the affable riders in the pit to the maniacal competitors on the track.

While all the jumping and whoops speed get the TV action, the single most impressive (and I think seperation from mortals like us) aspect of the top rider's skill set is corner speed. Truly phenomenal (at least when it is dry!)

Posted by: nephron---------------------

Something obvious----Stewart and Reed (less so, Carmichael) have been complaining about easy tracks. Now this, folks, is what happens when the track gets hard. We now know they're really that much better than everyone else (considering Reed's comeback speed).

Posted by: jboomer---------------------

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The CBS broadcasts look like a 10 year old VHS tape compared to Speed. Speed looks HD compared to CBS.

It's just the opposite around here! Speeds broadcast is fuzzy, while CBS's is bright and clear!

Posted by: HiG4s---------------------

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Originally Posted by Someone

Man Directv sucks. I switched from Dishnetwork to Directv out of spite for losing OLN. Now I regret it. The CBS broadcasts look like a 10 year old VHS tape compared to Speed. Speed looks HD compared to CBS.

And why is it DirecTVs fault the CBS feed sucks

Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

There's a major reason it could be DTV's fault.. ie; compression of the signal for re-transmission. The more stuff they try to squeeze onto those satellites, the more they compress some of it. Yesw, cable companies do it too example; when I compare an HD signal over Comcast vs. over the air, the OTA is FAR superior, always. In addition, the analog chanels on a comcast box were much worse than they are with the newer version of the same box (a phase 3 motorola HD DVR)

They are saying in June, FiOS TV will be here... much more bandwidth to use, should blow away both cable and dish. We'll see. I'm about to make the switch to FiOS internet now... 15 Mbps! Gotta love fiber.

Posted by: binthedirtnow---------------------

Not sure which one, but at the start of one of the Lites races, Alessi pulled a radical start and blasted that puddled-out first corner like nobody's business! He is an awsome rider. I think the smoke from the bikes was just steam from the mud burning onto the pipes. During one of the races when a lot of standing water was on the track, all the bikes were smoking, so it had to be water/mud vaporizing.

Posted by: binthedirtnow---------------------

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Originally Posted by Kawidude

I thought Langston would be on fire.......

Me too. Until he slammed down into a soft spot after doing a double, crunching himself on the bike. That was a hard landing and it must have hurt! After that he slowed down a lot.

Posted by: Sandjunky---------------------

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Originally Posted by Okiewan

There's a major reason it could be DTV's fault.. ie; compression of the signal for re-transmission. The more stuff they try to squeeze onto those satellites, the more they compress some of it. Yesw, cable companies do it too example; when I compare an HD signal over Comcast vs. over the air, the OTA is FAR superior, always. In addition, the analog chanels on a comcast box were much worse than they are with the newer version of the same box (a phase 3 motorola HD DVR)

They are saying in June, FiOS TV will be here... much more bandwidth to use, should blow away both cable and dish. We'll see. I'm about to make the switch to FiOS internet now... 15 Mbps! Gotta love fiber.

You definitely have too much time on your hands.

I think you really need to go riding!

Posted by: Someone---------------------

Directv's comrpession is easily seen with the HORRID audio quality on their stereo, audio only channels. I have to admit that Dishnet was the same way. They don't seem to care about their music stations. Directv's HD channels are poor compared to Dishnet, but both are better than Voom's were. I will watch MX/SX/AX in b&w if I have to however.

I wish I could see an OTA broadcast here, but I live in the middle of Wayne Natl Forest, and must sacrifice this to be able to jump on my YZ and hit the trails from my backyard. I still prefer the trail access over luxories like cable modem, good places to eat, grocery stores, and cell phone coverage. It really does suck in the winter months though.

Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

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Originally Posted by Sandjunky

You definitely have too much time on your hands.

I think you really need to go riding!

Considering that internet is an extremely important portion of my job, it's pays me know what's out there

Just placed the order... FiOS video (TV) is available now afterall.... saving myself $18.70 a month over cable tv and internet, more channels and ALL digital (very few of comcast's "digital package" are actually digital), more HD, more premium movie channels, virtually no compression (from what I've read by people that have it). Going from 8M down/768k up to 15M down/2 megs up. Sounds like a winner. Install is the 20th of Feb.

Posted by: Zoomer---------------------

I was disappointed in the coverage. First time someone other then Reed, RC or JS are on the box , and they only talk to 1st and 2nd!! That sucks for Wey.....although, maybe wey isn't very good on the micro phone. (ever wonder why he dosent have a factory ride)

Posted by: robwbright---------------------

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Originally Posted by Okiewan

Considering that internet is an extremely important portion of my job, it's pays me know what's out there

Where do you get that (FiOS)? Never heard of it . . .

Posted by: robwbright---------------------

O I see - Fiber Optics - I didn't recognize the acronym. We'll get that here in about 10 years . . .

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