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Posted by: thomas123---------------------

Has anyone out there ever made a motocross housing development? You know, like how they build a golf course, and then build houses on it? (I've even seen a CSI: Miami episode where there was a development for airplane enthusiasts, with a runway in the middle of the neighborhood.) I was thinking how nice it would be to live in a neighborhood where EVERYONE rides, is seconds away from some prime track/trails, etc...

Anyways, just my idea of the day...

Posted by: kdx200chick---------------------

I haven't heard of housing developments but I have heard of town friendly areas in West Virginia (Hatfield McKoy) and someplace in Utah. The place in Utah is more ATV oriented though. I love the idea you've described. I'm going to ask my brother in law and see if he's ever heard of such a thing since he is a homebuilder.

Posted by: crimecleaner---------------------

As much as I love MX I don't think I'd want a track in my backyard.

Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

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Originally Posted by crimecleaner

As much as I love MX I don't think I'd want a track in my backyard.

Ditto that!

Posted by: MXGirl230---------------------

Haven't heard of one that is MX related...but there is a possiblility of a "horse friendly" neighborhood going up somewhere around the town where I live. There will be one large heated facility to put the horses in and all of the "yards" will be available from 1-4 acres per home. Everything in the community will be "horse friendly"...Riding areas, trails, etc.

Posted by: High Lord Gomer---------------------

There are lots of airport communities around here (SC). My brother-in-law lives in one...very nice!

Posted by: oldguy---------------------

we have several airplane subdivisions in our area also thing is once they warm up and take off the noise is gone problem with a mx sbd about the time my kid gets tired of riding and goes in there are 2 more to take his place on and on all day

Posted by: ellandoh---------------------

i have run across a track in the woods of northern michigan that had a sign that said property of XXXXXX XXXXX ATV CLUB
it was a quad rider club with maybe 10 cabins i could see in the distance, a sandy track, and quite a few trails

Posted by: TemeculaTim---------------------

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Originally Posted by thomas123

I was thinking how nice it would be to live in a neighborhood where EVERYONE rides, is seconds away from some prime track/trails, etc...

Anyways, just my idea of the day...

Those places actually do exist but are in danger of becoming extinct because of local politics and bad behavior

Posted by: 91KDX---------------------

Maybe keep the houses a reasonable distance away from the track and trails? Regulations may be a good idea also. I would try and keep the neighbor hood small, as to not ruin and overcrowd the trails and track. I dont think it would be that bad.

Posted by: oldguy---------------------

Problems I would see
Insurance you are going to have to have a policy to cover all riders or the neighborhood assoc will get sued and probably loose bigtime
who is allowed to ride- you never knew how many friends you have until you have a track to ride on
hours even dirtbikers like peace and quiet once in a while
who is going to groom it? if the track is left to nature and rut up see concern ins
who is going to pay to groom it and for the equipment not everybodys lawn tractor is going to do the job

Posted by: Patman---------------------

I don't know that it has been done yet but I've often thought how cool it would be. It's possible to do, lots of potential issues but nothing that hasn't been addressed with other "use" type developments. I think what many might not understand is that even though you live in one of these communities you don't get free reign of the facilities nor free usage.

-Noise: Like flight based communities a certian amout is expected but there could be restrictions on time of day usage as well as sound test certification as part of the priveledge.

-Insurance: Again something that has been addressed with flight as well as golf & horse type developments so I'm sure it could be worked out.

-Maintenance: Just like a runway or golf course there would be fees associated with living and use of the facilities.

Where I see the biggest issue is in the mind set of the people that live in the communities. Not that they are "better" but typically folks that live in a golf/flight/horse type development have a level of respect for their neighbors and the community they live in that you won't typically see in the moto relm. Part might be age and part wealth and who knows what else but there is for sure a different mind set in general. Perhaps a vacation type resort would be a logical first step?

Posted by: Simulcaster---------------------

Something like Brian Deegan's house..... I was watching Stone Spray Sandwhich and he lives in the middle of vineyards. But, still has neighbors. it is a possibility but finding the right people to go into a situation/business like that would be tough...... after all a HOA is a business. Here in South Florida there is plenty of land in the center of the state to do this, but as already mentioned some local governments despise riders. They make you pay to apply for permits all well knowing they are going to decline your request. We have a couple airstrip communities in our county and they have very wealthy residents. If they can do it why can't anyone else.

You contact a professional track builder to give you an estimate of build costs and maintnance costs( irrigation, grooming, bobcats..etc. ) then market the tract of land and the homesites exactly as a motocross development. Divide the costs amongst the home owners.Strict hours of riding and leave enough buffer between the homes to dampen the sound.

It will be more expensive than visiting your local track if only one member of the family rides but if you make it a family affair it should even out. Solo at local track $20-$40 a day to ride x twice a week $2080-$4160 a year. So say it is $3000 a year per family with 10 home sites.... $30,000 a year would give you enough for a great track, the heavy equipment, the insurance, and the irrigation. It may require a buy in fee 8-10K per homeowner to get it off the ground. But, if your the developer you work this into the contract of buying the homesite form the beginning.

Now who has the land for sale..........we're in business

Posted by: Jamz---------------------

I live in a water ski comunity with 4 3 event competion ski lakes. So basically a comunity built around a certain activity such as this. As far as insurance that is placed more on the homeowners then the community. We have to keep substatial coverage on our boat and show prof of coverage to the POA. And also only our boat is allowed in the lake. Basically a friend can't bring thier boat over and we use it. Also any friend who does come over to ski must sign a waiver before going out. All mandated by the POA. This helps in the who is out there and what is used out there. Also we have to keep strict guidlines on what boats are out there else you get someone in a huge wakeboard boat tearing up the banks and all. It is definitly nice having that there being a competition skier myself. Basically go out lower the boat in the water ski and when you are done you are home. It is a bonus that a MX track is only 5 or 6 miles from my house :-)

Posted by: CaptainObvious---------------------

I have a track in my back yard. The only time I hear dirtbikes is when I'm riding...and then it's music. There is a five acre lot for-sale next to my house. I know a few people have looked at this lot and decided not to buy because of my track.

What bothers me is this...

What if someone decides to buy this lot because of my track? Even worse - what if he rides a quad?

I don't know which would be worse: 1) A guy buying the lot and then complaining about my noise, or 2) someone buying the lot and making more noise than I do.

If I'm lucky, I'll never find out.

Posted by: crazy4nitro---------------------

Maybe YOU should buy the lot...

but you live in NJ so the price of land might be enough to give a Goat heartburn !

Crazy

Posted by: Vic---------------------

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Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

I have a track in my back yard.

Now that I know that, I'm gonna hunt you down.

How much do they want for that lot? We could make a really BIG track.

Posted by: Patman---------------------

Any proposed development is reviewed based upon the same guidelines, if it wasn't the agency responsible would be open for law suits. While they might make it more difficult on a specific use or developer as long as it meets the specific guidelines including zoning, environmental concerns, density, etc... it would be possible. Thinking "the man" is out for all riders is the same sort of closed mindedness that would cause a project such as this to fail.
Sure fire ways to failure:
I live here and my bike(s) can be as loud as I want.
I can ride where I want and when I want.
It's more important to ride than maintain my property to set level.
I can have as many people over as often as I want and we can use the facilities how we want.
and 100's more.

Posted by: Sandjunky---------------------

I'd love a track in my backyard. I just wouldn't want the entire neighborhood to ride it all times of the day or night. It sounds like a nice fantasy until you throw pubescent teens in the mix. I have to deal with enough of that on public streets.

Posted by: Rcannon---------------------

I saw a very cool float plane community in Anchorage Alaska. Folks would basically fly right to the back door of their houses.

A track??? It sounds cool, but there would be those that woudl have to ruin things fo reveryone. In my non track neighborhood there is always a family letting their kids ride double on a Chinese quad. These folks never wear helmets.

The good thing about airplanes is that less than responsible flying has a way of taking care of itself....

Posted by: YZ165---------------------

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Originally Posted by Rcannon

The good thing about airplanes is that less than responsible flying has a way of taking care of itself....

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