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So here we are ... it comes down to Vegas
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Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

NEVER has the series seen two riders tied in points, going into the last round. Simple really....

RC wins Vegas, he gets the title.
Chad Wins, he get's it.
JS wins, someone other than RC or Chad finish second, he wins it.

So what are the odds? You've gotta go with RC in 1st or 2nd?
Can Chad pull out a win without RC and JS DNF'ing?
Chad and RC tangle?
Imagine the pressure on the top two going into this thing! Insane.

So what's it going to be?

Posted by: cnielse5---------------------

typically, I would say stewart gets the win. (or a crash and get 3rd) Carmicheal getssecond, and Reed third. I can see RC and CR battling for second, but RC is just too etermined.

........But than again this season is anything but typical!

Posted by: RM_guy---------------------

In anycase it's gonna be a good race!! I hope everyone stays healthy and all get good starts.

Posted by: kawicam125---------------------

im rooting for bubba to take it all. reed might crash due to pressure.

Posted by: Asrith---------------------

I cant tell the future, but it seems James is on a roll with SX, but outdoor will be another story, thing is James is younger and stepping it up, I think it tends to be another Stewart win...but I hope RC pulls it off, I think it will be the best race for the 06 season, obviously, but I think it will be Stewart if he does keep it cool.

Posted by: Someone---------------------

As long as Reed doesn't win, I will be happy.

I see it as (the race):
1) JS
2) RC
3) CR

Posted by: ellandoh---------------------

the pressure is on , it all comes down to this race, one of the three are going to ride over their head to take this. i think Reed's going down for his first race of the season that he cant wait on a gift. the other two have some practice at racing

Posted by: JMD---------------------

Vegas: everybody needs to win, but nobody can afford to ride stupid, either. It's going to be a delicate balance of speed and control, but with these supercharged athletes under intense pressure, I think they're going to err on the side of speed. Somebody's going to go down. I pick Ricky to win, Chad second, Bubba third after a crash, as long as there aren't any seagoing vessels in the infield. If there are, Ricky's finished.

Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

it's the final race, the cliche's are flowing like the beer flows like wine . . .

Posted by: Sandjunky---------------------

ARGHHHH!!! I want to go to Vegas. Does Vegas have the Paris Style jump coming out of the tunnel every year? Anyway, I'm hoping RC gets one more title before he goes out. JBS has plenty of time to claim them all when RC is gone. If fate deals CR another pair of aces I'll have to accept it, but I won't be happy about it. Man I wish that was going to be a live race!!!

Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandjunky

. . . Does Vegas have the Paris Style jump coming out of the tunnel every year? . . . Man I wish that was going to be a live race!!!

No, they have had a supermoto section, though.

and it will be live. On Speed. 7 pm PDT.

Posted by: Reesknight---------------------

RC only needs to finish second behind JS so that is exactly where he will finish. I don't see him trying to battle with James much at all. RC can ride smart and safe and still beat everyone except Stewart.

Posted by: dante---------------------

do they do the double start every year for vegas... right and left side, that go into the bottle neck first turn? IF I remember correctly that set up start causes some serious contact...

Posted by: zcookie49---------------------

can you imagine if there is a major wreck in the start and it involved all 3, JS, CR, RC. Then the scenario would be them all moving up the field to get out front for the lead. Pressure on Reed? Theres also pressure on JS. I think RC will be the calmest.

Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

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I'm hoping RC gets one more title before he goes out.

RC has signed a "Multi-Year" deal with Suzuki. This isn't his last season.

Posted by: ellandoh---------------------

though he will still ride and i am a huge fan , unless the protect mode has been extremely convincing he may be on his way out in other sense of the word

also , anyone have any specifics on the contract?? could it be outdoor only , or just putting on promotions etc.?? part time the 2nd?

Posted by: 2-Strokes 4-ever---------------------

The pressure is REAL BIG.............$$$'s on RC.

Posted by: dirt bike dave---------------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Okiewan

RC has signed a "Multi-Year" deal with Suzuki. This isn't his last season.

Has it been confirmed that he will actually be racing?

IMO he is more likely to be a coach/mentor. He's got nothing left to prove on the track, especially if he wins this year's SX and MX titles.

Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Details are supposed to be coming this week on his new contract.

Posted by: Mxrider26x---------------------

i dont know if some of u agree with this but what if stewart goes kinda slow and rides with chad and ricky and then tries to bump it up half way through the race possibly causing some crashes

Posted by: FruDaddy---------------------

How many times have RC and JS pushed too hard and ended up in the dirt? With the championship on the line, they will all push that much harder. I think that either RC or JS will take a dirt dive late in the race, the other will take the win. Reed wil be there to take second. Also, there is less pressure on Stewart, he only gets the championship if both Reed and Ricky finish poorly. This may be too his advantage.

Posted by: 2-Strokes 4-ever---------------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mxrider26x

i dont know if some of u agree with this but what if stewart goes kinda slow and rides with chad and ricky and then tries to bump it up half way through the race possibly causing some crashes

Then..........I'll never be his "friend" on MySpace.com

Posted by: TwinSpar---------------------

I pick RC for 2nd with JS in 1st but have a nagging feeling that emotion will drive RC into a block and all cards are up in the air at that point. Some tend to discount Reedy but if he wins... he EARNED it!

Posted by: HiG4s---------------------

I say the smart money is on JBS 1st, RC 2nd, and CR 3rd.. But I will be rooting for Reed..

But, But Reed's fastest laps were about the same as RC's two races ago and faster than RC's last race, both have been significantly slower than Bubba's so I'm afraid they will be close and pushing each other, causing one or both to go down. This could allow Bubba to win it all.

Posted by: TheGrinch---------------------

It could be anyone. I'd like to see Reed take the win fair & square (unlikely I know). Michael Byrne had an outstanding race in Vegas last year.

Posted by: Mxrider26x---------------------

yeah the reed thing is unlikely but like you i am rooting for him and he never tests and i feel that if he tests possibly a lil again this week hes bike will work good

Posted by: rickyd---------------------

I think the title is gonna be Stewarts, Somethin says the whoops are gonna be a little deeper this week

Outdoors, Bryner will be a upset this year, not that he will win a Championship, but i bet he has a few top 3's

Posted by: rickyd---------------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwinSpar

I Some tend to discount Reedy but if he wins... he EARNED it!

Whoever wins it will have earned it

Posted by: JPIVEY---------------------

I'm sticking with Reed

Posted by: CaptainObvious---------------------

RC goes into protect-mode and is happy to win second, giving him the SX title.

Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

RC goes into protect-mode and is happy to win second, giving him the SX title.

only if Reed is behind him

Posted by: dante---------------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickyd

I think the title is gonna be Stewarts, Somethin says the whoops are gonna be a little deeper this week

That's interesting, but I think they are going to build a fast track so the guys are racing eachother instead of the track... I think the whoops are gonna be managable... Noone want to see rickey crash in the whoops, and lose that way... With that said I bet the track is gonna be fast, with out the "excite bike" obsitcles

Posted by: kelsorat---------------------

Vegas is a small tight track, the start as always will be critical. I think Chad and RC have a better chance at winning the race with the pressure. Stewart will push too hard and crash, letting RC and Chad battle it out for the win.

Posted by: Micahdawg---------------------

The more I think about this....the more I wonder if the race won't be as exciting as we are all hoping.

I think a very likely scenario is this. Bubba goes down in the first turn and ends up back of the pack. RC gets into #1 spot in quick time and starts to lay down some times. Reed (maybe mixing it up with KW or Tedesco) eventually claws his way into #2 spot...only to be faced with a HUGE gap up to RC. And Bubba claws his way up to 3rd.

Hopefully it will be more of a race than this, but it very well could be set in stone right after the gate drops like previous races have been.

Micah

P.S. If Bubba gets out into 1st, it would be in his best interest to not put down a huge amount of space between him and RC. That will only fuel RC to be content with his #2 spot. If Bubba can keep it close to RC that will help bunch the group up and hopefully allow RC to mix it up and possibly go down due to Reed or someone else nipping at his heels. However, last race...Vegas...if Bubba gets in 1st I don't know if he really wants to mess around. He might just default into "check out" mode.

Posted by: MX-727---------------------

The best racing in my mind will happen if Reed gets the holeshot with RC in 6-7th and JS 15th or worse. Those two will put on a show to get up front.

If JS is out front at the start, I don't really see the other two trying or being able to run him down. The only way I see some one riding in mode is if RC is in second with CR stuck back in the pack. I don't believe that CR can ever ride in protect mode with RC charging, even from way back.

I just hope they are all in it and racing hard and even fairly aggressive. Block passing for the championship is to be expected in my book. I'm tired of the liberal biased P-C racing. This should produce some Bradshaw-Matasivich-Johnson-Hannah type riding if anything does.

Posted by: kelsorat---------------------

I can't wait to see an aggressive Reed. Chad really has nothing to lose. If he has already sealed a deal to head up his own team, and/or Yamaha keeps him because he is the best of the rest, then he will mix it up with RC and Bubba.

Posted by: YZ165---------------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by MX-272

The best racing in my mind will happen if Reed gets the holeshot with RC in 6-7th and JS 15th or worse. Those two will put on a show to get up front.

That's what I'd like to see as well.

Posted by: HySpeed125---------------------

I would really like to see Stewart win it all,but its unlikely.I was thinking,if Stewart wins and lets say Windham takes 2nd and RC takes 3rd with CR in the middle of the pack.That would be 336 points for both Stewart and RC,what happens in that situation?Do they go by whoever has won more races?

P.S I hardly think CR deserves this title if he wins.The only way the man won a race this year was from JBS and RC crashing.On the other hand he has been most consistant,grabbing 2nds and 3rds.I dunno lol

Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Quote:

Do they go by whoever has won more races?

Yes.

Posted by: Reesknight---------------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by HySpeed125

P.S I hardly think CR deserves this title if he wins.The only way the man won a race this year was from JBS and RC crashing.

Then you could say the same about RC. So JS should win it even tho 2 other riders have more series points than him?

Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reesknight

Then you could say the same about RC. So JS should win it even tho 2 other riders have more series points than him?

There's an emotional and a logical to side to just about everything. Emotionally, most would prefer to see a "champ" be the one who won the most, while logically, the one with the most points will win it.

Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Okiewan

. . . Emotionally, most would prefer to see a "champ" be the one who won the most, while logically, the one with the most points will win it.

for example, Bradshaw's meltdown in 92, handing the championship to Stanton.

Posted by: HySpeed125---------------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reesknight

Then you could say the same about RC. So JS should win it even tho 2 other riders have more series points than him?

No not really because a couple of races this year RC has beatin JS.I don't mean to offend any Reed supporters,I'm just more of a fan of JS and RC.

Posted by: Micahdawg---------------------

I like Reed...as everyone knows. but I make no mistake about it. JBS and RC are faster. Whether Reed choses to not ride at that level...or whether he is just not capable of riding that fast I have no idea. But it seems like so many people equate "champ" with "blowing everyone out of the water". Yeah, it's cool to see Bubba blast away from the pack and lap people up to 3rd, but that doesn't make a champ. IT's a HUGE advantage, but you ahve to be well rounded.

Reed possesses a lot of what is required to be a champ, so it just irks me when people dismiss him as unworthy because he isn't as fast as JBS or RC. That's all.

Micah

Posted by: Reesknight---------------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by HySpeed125

No not really because a couple of races this year RC has beatin JS.

I could be wrong but I can't recall any that RC won that Stewart didn't crash in.

Posted by: HySpeed125---------------------

Has Stewart really crashed that much?I can't remember off the top of my head,but RC has won like what 4-5 races this year? I guess I am wrong then,the only time anybody but JS won is when he crashed.If thats the case then you guys are right,RC and CR deserve it just as much as JS.

Posted by: JMD---------------------

If Bubba hasn't crashed, he has won. However, there have been races when he remounted and failed to make up any ground on RC, so he apparently wasn't much faster then, if at all. Also, if James was leading and made a slight bobble that let RC go by, wouldn't everybody admit he got beaten fair and square? So why is it any less so when he crashes his brains out? No; Ricky has beaten Bubba fair and square several times this year. But for all-out speed, I'd have to admit Bubba has a slight edge on RC.

Posted by: SpDyKen---------------------

I think it would be interesting & perhaps insightful if we tallied up the # of crashes for each of them. We should keep a separate count for qualifyers and main events. Off the top of my head, I would guess Bubbles would have the most, followed by the GOAT, and then Chadwick; but I might be wrong, as well! Anybody out there have the stats?

Posted by: HySpeed125---------------------

My guess would be that Stewart has crashed the most then Carmichael then follow by Reed.

Posted by: Micahdawg---------------------

I remember some handsome saves by all three. I think Reed in one of the early anaheim rounds was in the lead (either a heat or main) and got wicked sideways and parked it on the side of a jump. What got me was he just pointed it straight and clutched it into a double without giving up his spot.

RC came up REALLY short on a triple in his heat maybe in San Diego? And both him and Bubba have gone off track in some hair-raising moments.

Micah.

Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

RC is without doubt the KOS.

Posted by: JMD---------------------

It's amazing Ricky and Bubba are still walking around after some of their crashes. Some of them looked like career-enders.

Posted by: Reesknight---------------------

Being the fastest rider will win races. Being consistantly fast, wins championships. Whichever of the three wins the title, deserves it, IMO. Its been a great year for Supercross, I hope its the same next year!

Posted by: Red Mamba---------------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpDyKen

I think it would be interesting & perhaps insightful if we tallied up the # of crashes for each of them. We should keep a separate count for qualifyers and main events. Off the top of my head, I would guess Bubbles would have the most, followed by the GOAT, and then Chadwick; but I might be wrong, as well! Anybody out there have the stats?

Reed has all his crashes in the heat race and practice with 1 heat race win (in Toronto) and 2 seasonal main wins, Ricky has 1 heat crash,a couple mishaps and crashes in the main with 6 main wins, Stewart has 1 heat and practice crash but undefeated in all heat races, 9 main wins and 6 main crashes plus 1 main crash and get up pass both Ricky and Chad in Toronto.

Posted by: Mxrider26x---------------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMD

If Bubba hasn't crashed, he has won. However, there have been races when he remounted and failed to make up any ground on RC, so he apparently wasn't much faster then, if at all. Also, if James was leading and made a slight bobble that let RC go by, wouldn't everybody admit he got beaten fair and square? So why is it any less so when he crashes his brains out? No; Ricky has beaten Bubba fair and square several times this year. But for all-out speed, I'd have to admit Bubba has a slight edge on RC.

Yeah u can say that but he did crash he may be a lil messed up and there is no way that ricky is as fast as bubba in the slightest. and in daytona if thats wat ur refuring to bubba messed himself up on that crash. and to be honest the only time rc matched bubba in a not mud race is san diego so i dont agree with the bashing of reed

Posted by: TheGrinch---------------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reesknight

Being the fastest rider will win races. Being consistantly fast, wins championships. Whichever of the three wins the title, deserves it, IMO. Its been a great year for Supercross, I hope its the same next year!

Ditto.

Posted by: TheGrinch---------------------

I have to agree with Jeff Emig
http://racerxill.com/articles/detai...sx-preview.aspx

Posted by: HySpeed125---------------------

Yeah you guys are right.While Stewart and Carmichael,obviously have won more races Reed has been the most consistant.In that light all 3 of them evenly deserve it,personally I'd like to see Stewart win the title.

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