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can we add this to the forum?
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Posted by: elcamino12sec---------------------

I visit this forum probably once a day. It has helped me quite a bit over the last year since I have been out of the dirt bike world for about ten years. I think a "videos" section would be great. Just a small addition where folks can post videos of them riding and racing. Im sure I cant be the only one that wanted to see videos of other members riding. Is this request possible for DRN to add to internet's best MX Forum?

Posted by: 450X---------------------

i think thats a great idea

i too enjoy watching the videos and it would be nice to have one place to go and find them.

Posted by: elcamino12sec---------------------

Can we get a mod to give his/her opinion on this?

Posted by: Rich Rohrich---------------------

Video takes LOTS AND LOTS of bandwidth, and bandwidth costs $$$$$. Your suggestion might pull more weight if you weren't using the resources of the site for free. Something to consider.

You can already link to YouTube from a post which is more than adequate for watching another boring video of someone else riding. Don't get your hopes up about any additional video support on the site.

Posted by: ChopperDave---------------------

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Originally Posted by elcamino12sec

I visit this forum probably once a day. It has helped me quite a bit over the last year since I have been out of the dirt bike world for about ten years.

Same for me, thats why I am happy to be a Support Team Member! Great site with cool peeps!

Posted by: Rooster---------------------

Watching is kinda boring. I'd rather be doing it. Wait, we were talking about dirtbikes, right?

Posted by: FruDaddy---------------------

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Originally Posted by Rich Rohrich

Your suggestion might pull more weight if you weren't using the resources of the site for free.

Sorry Rich, but that's a pretty a$$holeish thing to say. All suggestions, regardless of the source, should pull the same weight. Some of us, who may consider paying for the privelege of avatars and private messages, feel that we are here more to help than to recieve help, thus, we are assisting in bringing in more registered (and paying) members.
In all honesty, I arrived here, through google, while seeking out an answer to a question. I found myself lurking, but only registered because I saw a post that I felt that I could assist with. Now, I could have gone on anonymously using bandwidth, to find the answers to any questions that should arise, but I chose to register and hopefully help others. You must also consider that some people here might have difficulty spending the cash to be a support team member. I know that this may not seem like much to many, but some people spend every dime that they have left over after buying food and paying rent. You should also consider the fact that many of our members are under the age of 18, and do not have the ability to make their own financial decisions, whose parents might not like the idea of throwing money into a web forum. This does NOT make their suggestions any less worthwhile.
Since bandwidth does cost money (but is usually priced in blocks), I can definitely understand why Okie might choose to not act on this suggestion, but he does allow users to upload images to the gallery. I also see several ads on the site, which indicates that there is revenue coming in (which is probably related to the number of people that see the ad, regardless of their contributing status). Don't condemn those that don't give money to the site, there are many possible reasons for not providing financial backing, but we are still an important part of the Dirtrider.net community and all suggestions have the same validity (I could easily make the same suggestion, then become a STM and make the suggestion again, but the remarks woulds remain the same, as would the thought behind the suggestion, regardless of my membership status).

Posted by: Moose---------------------

*sits back and braces himself*

Posted by: elcamino12sec---------------------

[QUOTE=Rich Rohrich]Video takes LOTS AND LOTS of bandwidth, and bandwidth costs $$$$$.

I know nothing about computers, bandwidth or websites. Guess its true when they say you learn something new every day. I just thought it might me a cool idea not an expense. I hope you guys did not get the wrong idea with my sudgestion.

Posted by: ChopperDave---------------------

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Originally Posted by Moose

*sits back and braces himself*

Indeed!

LMAO

Posted by: Rich Rohrich---------------------

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Originally Posted by FruDaddy

Guys like you crack me up. You clearly have the means to support the site, but you think your perceived "contribution" somehow covers the tab. I've got a news flash for you, I've seen your posts since you first arrived, and you bring less than JACK to this table. No one is coming to DRN or staying here because of anything you post. I can't decide if you believing otherwise is funny or just sad and pathetic.

The simple FACT is you're just another freeloader who clearly can afford NOT to be. It's not like we haven't seen your type before. Just another guy with an internet connection and too much time on his hands. When he isn't wasting bandwidth posting "me too" responses to nonsense threads, he's posting bad information on subjects he clearly doesn't understand.

It always makes me laugh when guys like you get all froggy and want to "throw down" by calling me an *******. I've been called far worse by far better, and didn't lose a wink of sleep over it, so if you were hoping I'd "flinch" at your scathing indictment , you'd better find a comfy chair, cuz it's gonna be a long wait.

You're just another waste of ASCII that we are stuck with. Not much I can do about that other than put you on my IGNORE list along with all the other bandwidth burners.

Feel free to return to your Delusions of Grandeur on our dime.

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Originally Posted by elcamino12sec

I hope you guys did not get the wrong idea with my sudgestion.

Don't worry about it. You asked a legitimate question. The hope in my response was to make people realize (not necessarily you specifically ) that the paying members of this site keep this place going, not the ads. The paying members are the only reason DRN can still exist given the current costs to run a site this size.

It wasn't meant to be harsh, but it was meant to point out the very REAL fact that the folks who help keep the site viable will always have a stronger voice about how DRN evolves.

If video interests you then embedding a YouTube link in your posts is still the best bet. There are plenty of examples in existing threads using YouTube to show videos, and the code to do the embedding is available on the YouTube site.

Posted by: Rooster---------------------

ЯR - You are the king.

Posted by: ChopperDave---------------------

"another beautiful theory beaten to death by a gang of ruthless facts..."

Posted by: FruDaddy---------------------

Rich, you are correct, I could become a paying member here, but I don't feel that the benefits would do me any good. I am also aware that this site would get along just fine without my presense, as it did before I found it, but quess what, it would survive without you as well. Now, I don't personally have anything against you, although it would seem that you may have a problem with me. but please note that I od not frequently throw down the "+1" and "I agree" posts that I often see from the paying members. I quess that it's a good thing that they help pay for that bandwidth.
Oh, and while my post may not always agree with your infinite wisdom, since I am only a recreational rider and don't spend my entire life working in the field, there are those here that DO feel that I have helped them in the past. Of course, since you know everything, and I have nothing to offer you, then please, add me to your ignore list. Of course, I will stick around for a while with my little blue freeloader boxes under my name, and maybe become a better man by reading your posts. At least until Okie decides that freeloaders are no longer allowed.
Oh, and the suggestion was just that, and whether or not it was a good idea had nothing to do with it's source. Explaining the fact that it would be expensive to implement to the OP would have been sufficient, but telling him that he shouldn't have made the suggestion because he doesn't pay to be here... Get real! But don't lose any sleep, I won't.

Posted by: Rich Rohrich---------------------

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Originally Posted by FruDaddy

Of course, I will stick around for a while with my little blue freeloader boxes under my name,

Don't bet on it. You might want to carefully re-read the registration terms you agreed to.

Posted by: trial_07---------------------

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Originally Posted by Rich Rohrich

I've got a news flash for you, I've seen your posts since you first arrived, and you bring less than JACK to this table. No one is coming to DRN or staying here because of anything you post. I can't decide if you believing otherwise is funny or just sad and pathetic.

You're just another waste of ASCII that we are stuck with. Not much I can do about that other than put you on my IGNORE list along with all the other bandwidth burners.

Feel free to return to your Delusions of Grandeur on our dime.

I know I'm already on your ignore list Rich, but let me pop up and say hello. FruDaddy's posts are not as you describe, lots of them were very useful to me and probably to many others also.

I did pay for some bandwidth, but I don't beleive that what I say is of any importance to you, at least not more than any registered ''bandwidth burners'' here.

How hard would it be to show some respect? I did have enormous respect for you because I admired your bag of knowledge and what you did for our sport. The more I get to know you, the more of that admiration is tossed aside. I just hope you are not the man you reflect to be on the internet.

Posted by: Rich Rohrich---------------------

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Originally Posted by trial_07

How hard would it be to show some respect?

Respect is easy to show, but it is something that has to be earned It's not a birth rite or something you can demand by shaking a "virtual" clenched fist in my direction. You are still young and those distinctions will likely become clearer over time, so you can be excused for maybe not seeing the difference at first glance. Or maybe you already recognize the difference and are choosing to ignore it. I don't know you so I'll just have to go with my gut.

Unfortunately, others in this little drama don't have that excuse to fall back on.

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Originally Posted by trial_07

The more I get to know you, the more of that admiration is tossed aside. I just hope you are not the man you reflect to be on the internet.

You don't know the first thing about me so save the speeches and the moralizing for someone else.

Posted by: trial_07---------------------

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Originally Posted by Rich Rohrich

You don't know the first thing about me so save the speeches and the moralizing for someone else.

I am very happy to hear this.

Posted by: FruDaddy---------------------

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Originally Posted by Rich Rohrich

Don't bet on it. You might want to carefully re-read the registration terms you agreed to.

Perhaps I will re-read the terms, If I am violating some "don't offend the cub member" clause, then I expect that I soon will be gone (but I can probably still read the posts of others). If I understand correctly, I am not important because I choose to not pay, and Trial07 is not important because he is young. The reality is becoming abundantly clear, there are many members here that are close personal friends, and will always stick together. Those of us that aren't furtunate enough to be in that club are irrelevant. You do have your followers, there are your friends, and there are those who believe that you are a king in the MX field. I for one, would not know that you exist were it not for this forum. I am not as impressed with your knowledge as many others seem to be. I am also certain that there are many in the engineering field that know more than you. Simply put, I am not afraid to disagree with the "experts", and your elitist attitude is quicky degenerating my opinion of you as a person. The worst thing that can happen to me here is a ban, and I won't lose any sleep over that, I recieved the information that I was looking here for long before I registered. Now I occasionally find a useful tidbit, but the yearly membership money was better spent on Eric's book, which just happens to have a photo of you on page 81.

Posted by: Rich Rohrich---------------------

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Originally Posted by FruDaddy

, and your elitist attitude is quicky degenerating my opinion of you as a person.

That's pretty funny stuff coming from the guy who posted this in one of the most self-serving elitist rants I have ever witnessed on DRN :

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Originally Posted by FruDaddy

I I am jealous of no one, because I know that I am more intelligent than most.

Hopefully I'll be able to sleep tonight knowing I haven't lived up to the high expectations of some random freeloader with an internet connection.

By the way, I think the word you are looking for above is quickly Mr. More Intelligent Than Most

Posted by: FruDaddy---------------------

I am not surprised that that came back up, I have already stated that it was a poor choice of words. And we all know that typographical errors happen.

You were definitely right when you said that respect is earned (it can also be lost) and on this occasion you are showing the real you.

Oh, since you are all knowing, could you post up a link to that registration agreement that you mentioned. It is not easy enough for me to locate, and my memory of it's text has degraded over the past couple of years. I suppose that I could waste a little more of your bandwidth and create another account just to read it, but I will not.

BTW, I do know my IQ (the measurement of intelligence) and, according to the tests and statistics, it is above average, which means that I am more intelligent than 50% of the human population. It's an irrelevant fact here, but since you brought it up, it is a fact. Now can we get back you how much you love yourself, since I don't typically jump on the pedestal as proclaim my greatness (it only occasionally happens)? Am I on that ignore list yet?

Posted by: elcamino12sec---------------------

I woke up at 6:30 and went riding, got home at 5:00 and cleaned up. I just woke up from a nap and WOW, this thread has grown! I never intended for a sudgestion to get carried away like this. Rich answered my question about why there is no video section on the forum. To be honest with every one I think this thread is getting out of hand. However it is quite entertaining!

Posted by: FruDaddy---------------------

Yeah, I think that I might just reel in my line and go home. It's becoming quite pettty, I think. Unfortunatley, it's not nearly as much fun as it should be, the subject has become more of an annoyance. I suppose that I'm just not in the right mood. Who knows, maybe I'll feel differently in the morning (I still have a page full of arguments that I could throw out).

It's funny though, I made a post a little while ago (not directly related to the "drama") that seems to have disappeared. I think that it was timestamped at 9:56.

Posted by: ChopperDave---------------------

Elcamino, your idea was a good one though.

Posted by: Patman---------------------

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Originally Posted by FruDaddy

BTW, I do know my IQ (the measurement of intelligence) and, according to the tests and statistics, it is above average, which means that I am more intelligent than 50% of the human population.

Actually being more intelligent than 50% of the human population would place you in the low-mid average range as 50% of the populance falls in the average range with diminishing percentiles as you go up and down the scale from the median. Congrats!

Posted by: ChopperDave---------------------

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Originally Posted by Patman

populance

Posted by: ChopperDave---------------------

Pat is that a stight pipes related term?

Posted by: FruDaddy---------------------

Actually, the average is the middle (49.9...% are below it, and the same are above it) therefore above average means above the majority (most). I mentioned no accepted range, as I don't care to look it up right now. But above the 50% mark means above more than there are above me. I also never mentioned anything about percentiles, which would involve an entirely different set of calculations. OK, the percentile would better suit my argument (I assure you that I would meet that requirement as well) since several low numbers accompanied by a few extremely high numbers could bring the average down substantially. And don't forget that I never stated how far above that magical mark that I fall. You have already made your guess, and I choose to not state that it's wrong. I assure you that it isn't 50.1%. Sorry, you are wrong (just read what you typed), but thanks for playing.

In case you missed it, 50% is half, more than half is a majority, a majority is most unless you are tallomg about an American presidential election, so more than 50% is most of the population. I'm beginning to think that you fall in the 40% range since you obviously don' t have a grasp on basic mathematics.

Are you remembering our last encounter, because I thought that was done, or are you just defending a fellow member of the club, we all know that you guys stick together.

Funny thing, another non-argumentative post (directed at the OP) has disappeared. Is there a conspiracy going on? I understand that I have angered the mods (please note that it is an "M" and not a "G").

Posted by: Moose---------------------

okay, i'm pretty sure i'm not in whatever "club" you speak of, so i'll point out the obvious. the way you're acting right now is stupid and childish. do you honestly not have anything better to do than pick fights on the internet? haha. give it up already.

Posted by: FruDaddy---------------------

Look again, I didn't pick the fight, I only pointed out that a registered member is being treated unfairly because he doesn't pay to be here. Then I was attacked. Now, I could just tuck my tail and proclaim the the mods are always right, but I won't. If you think that it is childish, then you don't see it from my side of the table.

Now, I am not sure if you are a memer of the club (I don't think that you are), but I don't know who all is part of it. There are many worshippers. They pretend that everyone is welcome, then shun those that don't pay, of course, if you do pay, then ythere are other reasons thatyou don't matter. In the end, there are a select few here that feel that they are superior to the rest, and anybody that does not conform to thier standards (or disagrees with them) is an unwelcomed guest. That attitude guarantees that I will not hand money to this forum.

Right now, I am waiting for an email, so no, I don't have anything better to do except drink beer. I am prepared to walk away, but I am pretty sure that somebody else will jump in the ring before I get out.

Posted by: ChopperDave---------------------

Using the words of that famous sage;

"Can't we all just get along?"

Posted by: Chili---------------------

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Originally Posted by ChopperDave

Using the words of that famous sage;

"Can't we all just get along?"

We could try but some whiner with an inferiority complex would start crying he didn't get as good a spot in the group hug as someone else.

Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Looks like this has run it's course.

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