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So, now what's up at the AMA H.Q. ?

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Posted by: SpDyKen---------------------

New C.E.O. Rob, the 'Dinger' Dingman seems to be cleaning house at the AMA.

Anybody think he'll do the right thing; Fire EVERYBODY, and shut the place down, so we can start up a new organization?

See: http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2007/Dec/071211o2.htm , or several other sources.

Wardy, what do you make of this?



Posted by: SpDyKen---------------------

I forgot; Cycle News original story ( http://www.cyclenews.com/ShowStory.asp?HeadlineID=11697 ) on this has the most information. One thing that probably has me wondering the most, is Dal Smilie's resignation from the A.M.A. board of directors.



Posted by: whenfoxforks-ruled---------------------

I hope this had something to do with removing the handicap!



Posted by: SpDyKen---------------------

Ed Youngblood resigns his post as "Chairman of the Motorcycle Hall of Fame Ambassadors and Promoters Committee, and (his) membership on the Motorcycle Hall of Fame Pioneers Committee," in protest, today.

See: http://superbikeplanet.com/2007/Dec/071212a.htm



Posted by: Ol'89r---------------------

I hate to say it but the AMA has been going from bad to worse.

As a lifetime AMA member of over 35 years, I have watched the AMA destroy the sport of dirttracking. They have completely screwed up roadracing and now they are working on mx. Very sad.

The 'dinger' is your typical corporate BA grad that doesn't have a clue about the organization itself or it's reason for being. His mindset is to fire all of the good old hard working employees that were loyal to the organization and hire a bunch of BA grads for less money. It doesn't matter to the 'dinger' that these people have no passion for the sport and probably don't even know the history of the sport. What matters is the bottom line and control.

The AMA was formed to organize races and protect racers from dishonest promotors that would promote races on unsafe racetracks and then take the purse money and run. Over the years, they have entered into other areas like protecting chopper riders from having to wear helmets and protecting the Harley Davidson company from everybody. Now, they are getting out of race promotion altogether. Soon, if the 'dinger' has his way, our American motocross series will be run by a European organization not the AMA. Ever heard of Youthstream?

When we were going through our problems with land closures in Riverside County, we asked the AMA to help us. They were not interested. This goes back to the days of the Barstow to Vegas run and it has only gotten worse. When the last AMA dirttrack race of the year was canceled due to abhorrent track conditions, Gene Romero, scheduled a half mile at Pomona California through his West Coast Flattrack Assn. and offered the race to the AMA as the final race of the season. Gene already had the race set up and paid for and the AMA could have stepped in at no cost to them and shared the race with Gene's series. The AMA turned him down. Gene's race turned out to be one of the best half miles that I have seen in many years. The program went very smoothly, the track was perfect and the stands were packed.

The really sad part is, there are many, many, people on the local level like Wardy and the people here in AMA District 37 that work very hard and are very passionate about the sport. But these people do not get any help or answers out of the corporate office. No support. The corporate office is no longer about the sport, only about the money.

To me, the future of the AMA does not look very bright, especially with people like the 'Dinger" in charge. Perhaps we could find a way to fire Mr. Dingman and take the AMA back. Or perhaps we should just let it go down the tubes and rely on people like Mr. Romero and others that still have a love and passion for our sport. It shouldn't take too much longer.

I truly hope Mr. Dingman reads this. It might give him a little insight as to how many long standing members of his organization feel. Not that it would help.

Ol'89r.......AMA # 055255



Posted by: Steve St.Laurent---------------------

I'm hoping (praying?) that maybe this change is happening because of the failures of the AMA. They haven't been doing a good job in a long time IMO. I doubt that's the case as I've seen new execs come into an organization and clean house before and it's almost always ugly. We can hope though. This was brought up on a street bike forum I'm on and the Motorcycle Riders Foundation was brought up ( http://www.mrf.org ) as an alternative for the lobbying portion of the AMA. I'll be looking into it for that side of the deal. It doesn't help with the racing side though



Posted by: truespode---------------------

I could care less how many of the old guard lose their jobs. The simple truth is that the AMA has been failing miserably and horribly. I have absolutely no faith whatsoever that the AMA actually looks out for any interest I might have other than throwing a half hearted press release out.

I don't know if this new guy or the new people brought in will be better but it is about time the old guard paid for the failings they have made.

Personally, if this time next year there is nobody in the AMA with more than 12 months experience working for Corporate AMA then that is a good thing.

I say fire them all and start completely over. Maybe that is what they are doing. Maybe they'll get it right or at least make things better. If not it doesn't matter b/c they can't be much worse than the past.

Ivan



Posted by: SpDyKen---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ol'89r
I hate to say it but the AMA has been going from bad to worse.

As a lifetime AMA member of over 35 years, I have watched the AMA destroy the sport of dirttracking. They have completely screwed up roadracing and now they are working on mx. Very sad.

The 'dinger' is your typical corporate BA grad that doesn't have a clue about the organization itself or it's reason for being. His mindset is to fire all of the good old hard working employees that were loyal to the organization and hire a bunch of BA grads for less money. It doesn't matter to the 'dinger' that these people have no passion for the sport and probably don't even know the history of the sport. What matters is the bottom line and control.

The AMA was formed to organize races and protect racers from dishonest promotors that would promote races on unsafe racetracks and then take the purse money and run. Over the years, they have entered into other areas like protecting chopper riders from having to wear helmets and protecting the Harley Davidson company from everybody. Now, they are getting out of race promotion altogether. Soon, if the 'dingbat' has his way, our American motocross series will be run by a European organization not the AMA. Ever heard of Youthstream?

When we were going through our problems with land closures in Riverside County, we asked the AMA to help us. They were not interested. This goes back to the days of the Barstow to Vegas run and it has only gotten worse. When the last AMA dirttrack race of the year was canceled due to abhorrent track conditions, Gene Romero, scheduled a half mile at Pomona California through his West Coast Flattrack Assn. and offered the race to the AMA as the final race of the season. Gene already had the race set up and paid for and the AMA could have stepped in at no cost to them and shared the race with Gene's series. The AMA turned him down. Gene's race turned out to be one of the best half miles that I have seen in many years.

The really sad part is, there are many, many, people on the local level like Wardy and the people here in AMA District 37 that work very hard and are very passionate about the sport. But these people do not get any help or answers out of the corporate office. No support. The corporate office is no longer about the sport, only about the money.

To me, the future of the AMA does not look very bright, especially with people like the 'Dingbat" in charge. Perhaps we could find a way to fire Mr. 'Dimwit' and take the AMA back. Or perhaps we should just let it go down the tubes and rely on people like Mr. Romero and others that still have a love and passion for our sport. It shouldn't take too much longer.

I truly hope Mr. Dingman reads this. It might give him a little insight as to what many long standing members of his organization think of him. Not that it would help.

Ol'89r.......AMA # 055255
Thank you, Terry!
I think that your statement here is one of the best summarys I've ever seen regarding the sad state of affairs at the AMA.

Ivan, I too had let my membership lapse after the Roger Edmonson judgement. (after 20 years.) I had to rejoin a couple of years ago, just so I could help a friend out at an AMA Superbike race; I really hated to do that!

I would have made almost the same statement that you did here, a few years ago, myself. But some of the recent moves by the 'new guard,' ( starting with Patty DiPetrio,) have me very concerned about the damage that these 'suits' may be able to cause to OUR organization!

Terry, I may very well 'cut & paste' your statement elsewhere, If you don't mind. I too would love to have the 'dungman' read your post!
Ken W.



Posted by: SpDyKen---------------------

Anyone interested in this may want to check out the responses AMA Board member, and publisher of Roadracing World (and Motorcycle Technology) Magazine, John Ulrich, has posted today, along with his own comments.

See http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=30930



Posted by: Ol'89r---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpDyKen
Terry, I may very well 'cut & paste' your statement elsewhere, If you don't mind. I too would love to have the 'dungman' read your post!
Ken W.


By my guest Ken.

The AMA is already very aware of my feelings as I have written to them in the past to express my distain for the way they have managed the sport. I have no doubt my letters were filed directly into the round filing cabinet since I never received any response.

Although, here is a response from Mr. Dinger himself.
http://www.amadirectlink.com/news/2007/visioncol.asp

The second Objective stands out to me and I hope Mr. Dingman prints it out and displays it on his desk. "Strengthen and Improve the Menu of Member Benifits." To me, what was printed in that paragraph is what has been lacking between the AMA and it's members. Especially the sentence, "We must be HUMBLE and work harder to develop and maintain relationships." I hope Mr. Dingman wrote that. If not, I hope he at least read it before having his damage team send it to Cycle News. It is the humility part that has been greatly lacking at the AMA since they act more like a dictatorship than a partner.

I guess time will tell. But, after seeing other people like Dingman come and go after being hired to 'fix the problem', I won't be holding my breath.

Ol'89r



Posted by: Ol'89r---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ol'89r
As a lifetime AMA member of over 35 years, I have watched the AMA destroy the sport of dirttracking.


And it is still going on. Here is a good example of how.

http://www.cyclenews.com/ShowStory.asp?HeadlineID=11704

In there you will read how the former CEO, Patti DiPietro took it upon herself to eliminate the claiming rule from the 2007 rulebook and enabled Harley Davidson to use engine management systems not available to anyone else. The whole idea of the claiming rule is to make it fair to everyone involved. But, the favoritism to Harley Davidson continues after all these years. DiPietro is gone now too. This is turning into quite a soap opera.



Posted by: jaction125---------------------

What a clusterXXXX!


I've only been a member for a couple of years, and I now understand why MOST riders aren't members.



Posted by: whenfoxforks-ruled---------------------

It could just be me, but I read this as possibly being a good thing. If I read into dingman's statements, out with the old way(sleeping with the oems) and in with the new. Wishful I know, and doing something correctly after so many years of playing politics with money instead of its members is going to be a long road to fix, and possible bankruptcy! If he is willing so am I! And as always time will tell.




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