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Bubba rumors from anaheim 2? (spoiler?)
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Posted by: trial_07---------------------

Did anyone hear the rumor about James being in conflict with Monster energy over his contract?

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Allegedly James and his dad where in Monsters offices this week trying to sort out their contract...James wanted 1.4 million for the season or he was going to walk from supercross and let Chad, who is no longer on unbound who is owned by monster, win...totally pissing off monster so they don’t have a sponsorship on the champion of the “Monster Energy Supercross”, In theory a nice bargaining chip, Monster told James 1.2 million or forget it...

James and His dad reportedly told the VP of Marketing at Monster to go F$%k himself. He told them where to stick it and no we get to A2...

He showed up late for the show, didnt do the press conference on Thursday, didn’t do more than two laps in each practice, and he developed a "knee injury" that took him out of the Supercross season...

Is this what racing has become?

He took a Bentley from redbull as a signing bonus last year and still walked on his contract and didn’t give the car back and now this with monster over 200K...

I don’t get it at all.

This of course is totally unconfirmed and only Monsters side of the story and was straight from the mouth of a unnamed monster execuitive in the Monster suite after a few beers... but I will call Aldon this week and see what the Stewart camp has to say. Maybe its all just all coincidence...

Monster was also pissed off about Stewart drinking a combination of Monavie, Water and Cytomax on the podium, He reportedly told them, "Im not going to pretend I drink that crap on the podium when I don’t"

- Anonymous

I don't believe this, but I'm kind of confused regarding his injury and why he didn't talk about it before A2.
Interview with James:
http://www.racerxfilms.com/20080120...wartInjury.html

Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

this was interesting enough that it deserves a thread of its own.

could it possibly be just about the money?

Posted by: oldguy---------------------

I sure hope it turns out false (and I am not a great Bubba fan although I enjoy watching him ride) both for his integrity and the sport itself. If it turns out true I hope nobody would sign him to any type of contract and let him either play the privateer game or go to Nascar

Posted by: IndyMX---------------------

I just can't see him not racing over $200,000.. That seems like a pretty small amount for someone in his position.

Posted by: wardy---------------------

One thing I would say is this, if it is true, then at least the guys in that league are getting some ok money for what they do, and if they have to sit out, or make a statement thats business, and he is a racer, but he also has to take care of business.
However, I don't think he today has the same impact on SX racing as a RC, MC, or a TP for that matter. Meaning this. People made a big effort to come see RC for his last races, and they flocked to the stadiums to see him race the SX's. James doesn't have that fan base, or doesn't have it "yet"........IF! this is or has any merit, then the 200k isn't worth what he is losing in future deals to come. there isn't that many energy drinks out there to mess with.
But I read some place else this likely isn't true, since wouldn't he have an agent to set this up? I mean I can't imagine he just called up "deal or no deal" and said hey I want' to be on tv, some one set that up for him??

Posted by: oldguy---------------------

Please do not turn this into a lynch Bubba thread just yet. Until someone real steps up and confirms it he deserves the benefit of doubt that it is just a rumor. Wardy pointed out a fact that I missed- Why would he not have an agent doing all the negotiations. Also I doubt any of those guys are sucking in energy drinks from those bottles on the podium. With the level of fitness and nutrition they adhere to the drinks just do not belong there at that point in their system recovery from the race. They are paid to show the bottles not drink the juice

Posted by: flynbryan---------------------

I can't believe that ya'll believe this even for a second.... This guy(and all the pro level riders) LIVE for the oppertunity to win the SX championship. To think that he would ditch the whole season over some outside sponsor is simply comical. I'm pulling out the BS flag on this one. Its obsurd. lol

Posted by: Reesknight---------------------

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Originally Posted by trial_07

I'm kind of confused regarding his injury and why he didn't talk about it before A2.

I'm not sure when his contract negotiations were, but I'm sure an injured JS doesn't pull in the same money as a heathly JS. I doubt that this 'rumor' is true tho.

Posted by: whenfoxforks-ruled---------------------

JS rode all of the first practice and at least half of the second, ama wired results back it up. Fact is he had to miss the us open, knee. I have not seen him riding like he did before the knee, now this? His dad has the pr for the rumor to fly and that is about it.

Posted by: Reesknight---------------------

I liked the off handed CR diss tho. He was riding at 70% and still spanked Reed!

Posted by: SpDyKen---------------------

My "conspiracy theory" to explain this is that this is somebody's idea of a Martin Luther King Day joke. (Note the timing.)

I heard some bad jokes yesterday relating to dark skinned people of african heritage. This is a pretty bad one.

Posted by: trial_07---------------------

I also read this was probably written by someone representing the company Monavie. Being a fan of Bubba, I truly hope all of this is false.

The way he was talking about his injury in the interview, I would be surprised to see him before the outdoors.

Posted by: wardy---------------------

Hell this is just another promotional stunt, here is what is going on. he is giving Chad a little points lead. then like a super hero he will come back and win it at the end.

Making it the "greatest come back of all time"

just a "therory."

LOL

Posted by: flynbryan---------------------

Personally I think that during the off season Reed pulled a Tonya Harding on Bubba and cained him in the knee before the season started.......

Posted by: defo26---------------------

They had an interview with stewart on the speed channel and he said he was having bike trouble and cased a triple and messed his knee up and might not race in the supercross season. I really dont believe the money rumor.

Posted by: SpDyKen---------------------

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Originally Posted by flynbryan

Personally I think that during the off season Reed pulled a Tonya Harding on Bubba and cained him in the knee before the season started.......

Tyler Evans playing the fat guy's(R.I.P.,) role; Larry Brooks playing the 'boyfriend's' part?

Posted by: hellbertos---------------------

Personally, I have a very hard time believing Bubba Jr and Bubba Sr. would pull the plug on the entire SX season over a small percentage increase in total income (is 200K even 5-6% of his total yearly income? I mean it is not even 15% of the contract eluded to...).

I agree w/ FlyinBrian in that these guys live for the chance to win a championship. Anyone remember the SX-only rumors for JBS a year or two ago?? And now the rumor is he won't race the SX series over a 200 grand discrepancy from a sponsor who is likely behind Kawasaki and Fox in actual dollars as well as obligation? It just doesn't add up.

It does seem something strange is happening w/ Monster and JBS due to the fact that he hit the podium in PHX w/o a can of Monster in his hand. It doesn't seem like it could be an over-sight... but, if something is askew in Monster/JBS land, I can't believe it is over the amount and time stated... and I can't believe he'd cash out the whole season over that.

My $.02

Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

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Originally Posted by hellbertos

I agree w/ FlyinBrian in that these guys live for the chance to win a championship.

If that was the case, they'd do it for $50k, a couple bikes, and a pickup.

They are in it for the jingle, and I don't blame them one bit. If you got the skills, get all the money you can out of 'em.

I find that it's not easy to figure out how people think. Maybe James believes the "fastest man alive" talk and has nothing really left to prove, so he is gonna hold out for the cash. Or maybe his dad is the big push and wants to secure his future as well as his boy's.

Or maybe James really hurt his knee.

Posted by: hellbertos---------------------

True money is a driving factor but I do think there is a competitive drive at the top levels of any sport which separates the champions from the contenders or mid pack guys.

Still, you could be right that all the talk has gone to his head and he feels he might as well push for every last cent. However, that being the case, how much would he be leaving on the table in the form of contingency money and championship bonuses by sitting out the season?? Seems like that figure would easily be 200K.

You are right though that is is hard to understand how people think. There really is no telling...

Besides, maybe he just hurt his knee...

Posted by: dirt bike dave---------------------

I certainly hope the rumors are not true. The whole thing is very weird, though.

JBS was very specific that his injury happened December 20th, after he had recovered from the injury that sidelined him last year. Seems strange that he was so specific about Dec. 20th. I've just never heard a rider discussing a month old injury and being so specific about the date. Struck me funny, like when he got injured may influence contractual payments. It's big business, after all.

Were there any reports that he was seen limping around at A1 and PHX? How about reports that he was seen or not seen practicing after Dec. 20th? Seems like Kawasaki would know if he was or was not practicing, or if he seen a doctor. They could back JBS up on this stuff at anytime and snuff out these rumors (if they have not already).

Without seeing a Doctor after the A2 incident, Bubba can say the injury might keep him out all SX season? Why not wait until he has had medical attention to speculate on that?

As for him bailing out over 'only' $200,000 dispute, maybe he gets the $1.2 million whether he races the rest of the SX season or not. Maybe he wanted a raise if he was going to bust his tail all year, and he had tons of bargaining power right before the highly anticipated A2 round.

Also, maybe he's got another energy drink lined up that will pay him way more than Monster. So his new potential sponsor tells him Monster is giving him the shaft with that insult of an offer (who knows if it was $1.2 million). So he plays hardball when Monster does not re-negotiate, knowing someone else is lined up.

Bottom line is no one can know, but it is a shame that he is not out there on the line! I really wanted to see him and Reed battle it out this year. I was shocked when I heard JBS was out, especially when it was a month old injury!

Posted by: trial_07---------------------

One thing for sure is that Monster will probably have a hard time keeping Bubba and Villopoto, both very talented riders. And yes, James did not have a Monster can on the podium at Phoenix. I hope we have some more info before the next race.

Just for fun:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WAzbN-3x0EQ

Posted by: twilliams811---------------------

james didnt have a monster can at any of the podiums

Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Why is it a shame? Everyone loved RC dominating, but weren't/aren't into another several year domination... James being out brings excitement back if nothing else. So everyone wants a competitive SX class. You got it.

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Or maybe James really hurt his knee.

Oh no, that's just too simple.

Posted by: BigRedAF---------------------

He's hurt, he has to be...

A lousy 200K from Monster wouldn't make him walk out. He wins 1 million from Kawi if he wins the championship and he can't win by not racing.

I like watching him but the kid does dump crap that gets him hurt when he can turn it down a bit and still win and not get hurt.

I hope he heals up and makes some money while he can. Once he gets old and bent he doesn't strike me as the type that can make his money last, Tyson comes to mind.

Posted by: Reesknight---------------------

Or maybe, with Reed being under 2 sec. behind him at Phoenix, it scared him into making up any excuse to bail on a season where he knew he was going to lose the championship, to salvage the 'Fastest Man Alive' moniker.

Reed was going to put a whoopin on him at A2!

Posted by: dirt bike dave---------------------

I watched all of the A1 live season opener. 3+ hours of coverage. I listened to all of the Phoenix coverage on the internet and watched all of the tv coverage. In all that coverage, there was no mention that Bubba was riding hurt. On the track, he was amazing.

Like millions of others, I was eagerly awaiting A2.

At A2, Bubba gets 2nd fastest qualifying time. Again, no mention that he's hurt. Looking like a showdown for the main with Chad on retro night! Cool!

Then out of the blue, he pulls out of the race because of a previously unknown one month old injury! WTF???

If Bubba has had a season threatening injury for a month, why wasn't there at least one mention of it prior to A2? If there was any mention of it prior to A2, who's got a link? He lives under a microscope, but no one noticed he had a season threatening injury?

I find it very strange.

Posted by: BigRedAF---------------------

I live in Phoenix. Bubba waited till his last practice lap to be number one. Then he laid down a lap that Chad couldn't touch. In the main Bubba was on cruise control and looked smooth for once in his life. Perhaps he was hurt like he says and riding just hard enough to get the job done. The mud race at A1 would hurt anyones knee if it was questionable to start with. He closed in for a while then settled and finished second, another smart decision.

Posted by: trial_07---------------------

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Originally Posted by dirt bike dave

I watched all of the A1 live season opener. 3+ hours of coverage. I listened to all of the Phoenix coverage on the internet and watched all of the tv coverage. In all that coverage, there was no mention that Bubba was riding hurt. On the track, he was amazing.

Like millions of others, I was eagerly awaiting A2.

At A2, Bubba gets 2nd fastest qualifying time. Again, no mention that he's hurt. Looking like a showdown for the main with Chad on retro night! Cool!

Then out of the blue, he pulls out of the race because of a previously unknown one month old injury! WTF???

If Bubba has had a season threatening injury for a month, why wasn't there at least one mention of it prior to A2? If there was any mention of it prior to A2, who's got a link? He lives under a microscope, but no one noticed he had a season threatening injury?

I find it very strange.

I agree with dirt bike dave, we usually are informed when riders ride with pain (especially when it's Chad Reed

). The big question is why didn't he talk about it before A2? Sorry if I might be repeating myself.

Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Uhh... Chad is the one who ALWAYS let's us all know he's hurt, with of the course the "no excuses" comment added in right after he tells us...

What the hell? The guy says he's hurt and a bunch of 'net cowboys decide it's a conspiracy? Seriously? He drops out of a Championship for $200K? That's CHUMP CHANGE. He drops out because Chad can hang for a few laps?

We need to make a "Days of our Lives" Gossip site for this BS.

Posted by: Reesknight---------------------

RacerX posted an update saying he is undergoing surgery this week, and hopes to be 100% by Glen Helen

Posted by: Reesknight---------------------

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Originally Posted by Okiewan

He drops out because Chad can hang for a few laps? .

And I was joking, as usual.

Posted by: trial_07---------------------

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Originally Posted by Reesknight

RacerX posted an update saying he is undergoing surgery this week, and hopes to be 100% by Glen Helen

Thanks for the info

I hope he'll be healed for good when he comes back.

Posted by: IndyMX---------------------

RC Raced his last full season hurt, and never said a word. Racers race, Chad whines.

Posted by: BigRedAF---------------------

Yes he does!

I like when RC said that Chad has never won a Supercross that RC or Bubba didn't crash at least once in.

Posted by: flynbryan---------------------

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Originally Posted by Okiewan

Seriously? He drops out of a Championship for $200K? That's CHUMP CHANGE.

We need to make a "Days of our Lives" Gossip site for this BS.

And thank you. I can't believe anyone would believe this. Reality TV is really starting to effect people's ability to draw intelligent conclusions...

Posted by: twilliams811---------------------

funny part is when he was on the podium for weeks 1 and 2 he said he was giving 100% and in his press conference in his motor home he said he clearly wasnt riding 100%. he needs to get his own story straight

Posted by: oldguy---------------------

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Originally Posted by twilliams811

funny part is when he was on the podium for weeks 1 and 2 he said he was giving 100% and in his press conference in his motor home he said he clearly wasnt riding 100%. he needs to get his own story straight

I doubt if he thought that he would be racing the whole season he wanted anyone to know there was a weakness- Would be like Eli Manning saying after the Packer game "Yes I am hurt and it really bothers me when I throw a pass. I hope I can play in 2 weeks" You don't want to give out any edge to a competitor.
That said the only person I can think of that calls the press before a race to say yeah I got a hangnail this week so I will try as hard as I can but I know it is going to be brutal is none other then Reed. Kind of wants his excuse in the books in case he doesn't win

Posted by: rushy08---------------------

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Originally Posted by BigRedAF

Yes he does!

I like when RC said that Chad has never won a Supercross that RC or Bubba didn't crash at least once in.

This just proves that you dont need to be the faster rider to win, you need to be the better rider.
Someone that is fast and inconsistent is not as good as a moderately paced consistent rider if the fast rider is constantly getting hurt.

Posted by: youngr51---------------------

Money runs every thing and ruins the greatest men. dont believe anything ever. Great racer or not this is a living. Endorsments pay the cadi. And conttrovrsy pays the houses

Posted by: rickyd---------------------

I see him on a Red Bull/ Honda next year. That was the word going around A2 this past weekend.

Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

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Originally Posted by rickyd

I see him on a Red Bull/ Honda next year. That was the word going around A2 this past weekend.

Interesting.

Posted by: IndyMX---------------------

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Originally Posted by Okiewan

Interesting.

I just emailed a buddy of mine who I've mentioned before works on the circuit for a tire company that provides tires to the factory Kawasaki team..

Not that he'll have any credible information, but hopefully he'll know something.

Update...

I just got a response from my buddy. He doesn't know if there's a contract issue or anything like that, but he has heard some things in the pits. But can't tell me about them thru email.

He did mention that he's not so happy about JBS blaming the tire guys for the supposed crash.

Just got off the phone with my friend.. The rumor going around the pits is that you may see JBS on a Yamaha next year. From what he understands, one of the new teams is courting him.

Who knows..

Posted by: rickyd---------------------

Season isn't even over and we are in the Silly Season

Posted by: hellbertos---------------------

Didn't he resign a multi-year deal w/ KMC just a couple seasons ago? Or even just last year?? I can't believe that KMC would let it happen w/o a fight... but stranger things have happened I suppose... None the less, I hope he gets it together, gets healthy and gets back on the race track on his Kawie as soon as possible and all the talk of money and sponsors can change to starts, passes and finish line antics...

Posted by: rushy08---------------------

Fingers crossed......

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/...y08/bubbarm.jpg

Posted by: lwsmithjr---------------------

The latest is a deal w/Joe Gibbs racing putting James back with J-Bone then a fast track to NASCAR.

Posted by: Reesknight---------------------

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Originally Posted by hellbertos

I can't believe that KMC would let it happen w/o a fight... but stranger things have happened I suppose...

Maybe they see RV as a more valuable commodity and JS as damaged goods.

In other words, RV maybe the greater return on investment.

Posted by: whenfoxforks-ruled---------------------

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Maybe they see RV as a more valuable commodity and JS as damaged goods.

I like that one the best, knee issues can do that. His original stab at the ground still makes me wince thinking about it.

Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

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Originally Posted by rickyd

I see him on a Red Bull/ Honda next year. That was the word going around A2 this past weekend.

That seems reasonable, since he was always a red bull guy, up 'til this year when all of Kawasaki went Monster

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Originally Posted by lwsmithjr

The latest is a deal w/Joe Gibbs racing putting James back with J-Bone then a fast track to NASCAR.

this is one I can believe, #1 being the JBone factor, #2 being the "I wanna be like RC" factor

In all this mess, it brings a flame to mind. Energy drinks are going to be the downfall of this sport

Posted by: dirt bike dave---------------------

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Originally Posted by XRpredator

Energy drinks are going to be the downfall of this sport

Maybe.

IMO, the fact that there was not a single Monster logo visible during Jame's "I'm out" announcement video speaks volumes about his relationship with Monster. FWIW, his Fox logos were very prominent.

Posted by: lwsmithjr---------------------

FWIW, if the Joe Gibbs thing is the way it goes down, he would be able to bring Red Bull with him..........

Posted by: flynbryan---------------------

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Originally Posted by XRpredator

#1 being the JBone factor, #2 being the "I wanna be like RC" factor

I thought James was the one that replaced J-Bone in the first place....?

Also, why is it that you guys feel these guys any kind of allegance to these sports drinks? The riders couldn't care less what drink they hold on the podium. They just want the one that will give them the most $$$.

Posted by: lwsmithjr---------------------

JBone (Jeremy Albrecht (sp?))was James' mechanic until last year. Gibbs racing hired him away to be the race team manager.

And you are correct -- they DO NOT care which so called energy drink sponsors them. The guys who train correctly wouldn't drink them anyway. They DO care how much they get paid by them though. And so would I, if I were in their shoes...............

Link to Joe Gibbs Racing

Posted by: oldguy---------------------

This is getting stranger every day and the thoughts about him on Honda may be way off think Yellow

If Motocross Action can be trusted
http://www.motocrossactionmag.com/M...9FFE63408AE582D

By Monday morning after the A2 the rumor mill was in full effect: James Stewart wasn't hurt at all. His injury induced withdrawal from the race and the Supercross series was all just a ruse to get back at Kawasaki and Monster. Why would James want to get back at two of his primary sponsors? Why else - money. Everyone has heard about the tensions that were raised last year when Monster stepped in as the title sponsor to the team last year forcing James to scuttle his lucrative Red Bull deal. Even last week we posed a question as to why James broke with current protocol on the Phoenix podium by showing up with a clear water bottle instead of a can of Monster. Indicative of the rumor mill that is the Internet, no sooner had we heard about the supposed fake injury than we heard that James had also signed a letter of intent with Suzuki.
For anyone who was in the Kawasaki semi when James broke the news, you’d know that the young rider was sincerely in pain over the decision. James Stewart is one of the fiercest competitors the sport has known and the reality that he could easily make back in win bonus money what the supposed squabble with sponsors was about belied his true intentions. Was James really hurt? We didn’t doubt him one bit and to get the inside story we chased down the one guy whose word we wouldn’t doubt…..Aldon Baker.
For the last few years Aldon Baker has been the personal trainer for two of the most successful throttle twisters in the land: Ricky Carmichael and MotoGP world champ Nicky Hayden. Although he still works with Hayden (and brothers Tommy & Roger Lee) Aldon was hired by James Stewart over the winter now that RC has moved on to car racing. With James’s recent injury, Aldon has gone from helping Stewart with his conditioning and instead transitioned into a therapy mode. We chased Aldon down as he was in Las Vegas testing with Suzuki roadracer Tommy Hayden before he would return to Los Angeles to be with James.

MXA: Aldon, we’ve been hearing a lot of rumors about James and the extent of his injury. Some people have even suggested that James is feigning the injury because he’s mad about losing his personal Red Bull contract to the team Monster deal.
Aldon: Yeah, I was really surprised when you mentioned those rumors because we hadn’t heard about them at all. And I can definitely say that there’s absolutely no truth to any of them. James is more interested in beating Reed and winning the championship than worrying about some sponsor issues. The bottom line is that he simply couldn’t ride at 100% because of the pain. I don’t think James would undergo surgery over a sponsorship deal.

MXA: So what is going on with James and his knee?
Aldon: Two days after Anaheim 2 James had an MRI which was to be followed by surgery a day later. I don’t think he’d be going under the knife over any sponsorship deal. For the month leading up to the series opener James had been off the bike. By the time he won at Phoenix he was only riding at 60-70% and for James that’s just not acceptable. He wasn't even riding during the week.We basically had to choose between carrying on with Supercross and taking that chance of further injury, or pulling him off the bike now so we could stand the best chance to be ready for the outdoor season.

MXA: What is the extent of the injury?
Aldon: He’s having an ACL rehab with his left knee, which is the same one he injured at Washougal. They’ll be taking some cartilage out from behind his hamstring to rebuild the ACL. He also has some scar tissue in there, but he’s lucky that everything else in his knee is in good shape.

MXA: We know it’s early, but what can you tell us about the prognosis?
Aldon: We’re still unsure, but for most surgeries like this it usually involves a recovery period of four to five months. We plan to be aggressive with therapy and do our best to be ready at Glen Helen. I know how determined James is so if everything works out, we should be good to go.

Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

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. . . MXA: What is the extent of the injury?
Aldon: He’s having an ACL rehab with his left knee, which is the same one he injured at Washougal. They’ll be taking some cartilage out from behind his hamstring to rebuild the ACL. He also has some scar tissue in there, but he’s lucky that everything else in his knee is in good shape.

I'm going to have a chat with my local expert on anatomy and orthopedics, but I'm pretty sure you can't make ligament out of cartilage.

Still seems fishy.

Posted by: oldguy---------------------

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Originally Posted by XRpredator

I'm going to have a chat with my local expert on anatomy and orthopedics, but I'm pretty sure you can't make ligament out of cartilage.

Still seems fishy.

Umm yes they can that is how they fixed my knee

Posted by: Reesknight---------------------

This is much more interesting with the rumors being true! Stop confusing us with facts!

We need something to talk about and you're trying to take that away from us!

Posted by: trial_07---------------------

Ok, so he would be injured, and he would be in conflict with Monster Energy, right?

Posted by: dirt bike dave---------------------

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Ok, so he would be injured, and he would be in conflict with Monster Energy, right?

Right. And the two have nothing to do with one another.

He is sitting out the SX season because of the injury, not because of the conflict with Monster.

Only a hater would think he's sitting out because of the conflict with Monster.

Posted by: whenfoxforks-ruled---------------------

Thanks for shagging the information Dave. This time I hope it turns out okay.

Posted by: VintageDirt---------------------

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Originally Posted by XRpredator

I'm going to have a chat with my local expert on anatomy and orthopedics, but I'm pretty sure you can't make ligament out of cartilage.

Still seems fishy.

Where you been man? A course they can make ligermints outta cartlidge. Also gold outta lead and a silk purse outta sow's ears. All it takes is money.

Hey, did you see your picture on Mars? Looks like NASA busted you sneekin' around. You thinkin of openin another likker store in space? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/ma.../scimars123.xml

Posted by: SpDyKen---------------------

[QUOTE=Reesknight]This is much more interesting with the rumors being true! Stop confusing us with facts!

We need something to talk about and you're trying to take that away from us![QUOTE]

issed:

Oh so true, for so many!

XRPed., you have to remember the source of the written words we are reading here. I'm not saying that Aldon Baker does not know his stuff, not at all; but this stuff is being 'reported' here by MXA. You be the judge of their record.

IMHO, it is likely true that Bubbles is not enamored with Kawasaki-Monster marriage. After all, it cost him big money with Red Bull. I would suspect that he may continue to drink from a clear water bottle, unless, and until, Monster supplies him with enough cold, hard, cash to change the way he feels now. I would suspect that this issue is perhaps causing J.S. to 'loose' his previously strong loyalty to Kawasaki.

I do believe that his knee problem is the reason he is not racing now. Orthopaedic injuries & medicine is not an exact science, at best. My Ortopaedic surgeon has used this example with me: In many injuries, if you gather 10 Drs. together, you would be lucky to be able to narrow down the options for treatment to two.

Posted by: rickyd---------------------

Might we see a #11 Green bike soon?

Posted by: 2-Strokes 4-ever---------------------

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Originally Posted by XRpredator

I'm going to have a chat with my local expert on anatomy and orthopedics, but I'm pretty sure you can't make ligament out of cartilage.

Still seems fishy.

I read the "red flag" too, and you're right, fishy is an understatement. We know ACL repairs...what you need is hamstring or some kind of ligament-worthy tissue.

Posted by: oldguy---------------------

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Originally Posted by 2-Strokes 4-ever

I read the "red flag" too, and you're right, fishy is an understatement. We know ACL repairs...what you need is hamstring or some kind of ligament-worthy tissue.

May be misspoken on his part but when they did my ACL/MCL replacements they harvested from my hamstring the parts they needed. I mis spoke when I said they used Cartilage from the harvest it was muscle tissue I believe

Posted by: lwsmithjr---------------------

The preferred method of ACL repair for a competitive athlete is a Patellar Tendon graft or Hamstring tendon graft. The recovery is longer than a cadaver graft but the end result is about 3 to 4 times stronger than your original ACL.

They may well have used hamsting tissue, but it wasn't cartilage.

http://www.orthoassociates.com/ACL_grafts.htm

Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

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Originally Posted by VintageDirt

Hey, did you see your picture on Mars? Looks like NASA busted you sneekin' around. You thinkin of openin another likker store in space? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/ma.../scimars123.xml

I can't go anywhere without the damn cameras following, can I?

Posted by: letsride24-7---------------------

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Originally Posted by trial_07

Just for fun:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WAzbN-3x0EQ

Wow.. Love how he is so happy and running around on a bum knee.........

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Originally Posted by lwsmithjr

Yup that is what i had done. No issues and it's been 4 years. So strong.. I know before i had the repair, i couldn't even walk fast with out pain or it "popping out"

Posted by: Reesknight---------------------

Lets add some more to the rumor mill

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Originally Posted by RacerX

Monster Energy Kawasaki: Preston May Get a Shot

Racer X has learned that Monster Energy Kawasaki's plans to meet up with Travis Preston to give him a quick tryout were washed out by the rain in Southern California today, according to an industry source, but it may only be a matter of time before Preston gets a shot to join the team in the wake of James Stewart's absence. People have been speculating about this since Saturday night, and now it appears that that the Monster Energy Kawasaki team is also thinking about it as well. It could happen as soon as Anaheim 3, we were told.

So if Preston joins up, where does that leave Stewart?

Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

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Originally Posted by Reesknight

So if Preston joins up, where does that leave Stewart?

Kickin' back and collecting a paycheck while he "rehabs his knee"

Posted by: rickyd---------------------

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Originally Posted by rickyd

Might we see a #11 Green bike soon?

From RACER X:
January 27, 2008
Travis Preston Tries Out Green
Steve Cox

We've just learned that Travis Preston is going to be testing with Kawasaki this week in order to possibly fill in for injured James Stewart on the Monster Energy Kawasaki team. Since California has been drenched with rain over the last week or so, most of the tracks are not rideable, so it sounds like Preston and Kawasaki will be heading to Arizona for testing on Monday and/or Tuesday.

If things go well, we hope to see Preston's familiar number-11 on a factory Kawasaki before the supercross championship leaves California.

Posted by: BigRedAF---------------------

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Originally Posted by rushy08

What planet are you from? I'm not a RC fan but a perfect season and the most wins in history is pretty consistant!

Posted by: BigRedAF---------------------

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Originally Posted by lwsmithjr

The preferred method of ACL repair for a competitive athlete is a Patellar Tendon graft or Hamstring tendon graft. The recovery is longer than a cadaver graft but the end result is about 3 to 4 times stronger than your original ACL.

They may well have used hamsting tissue, but it wasn't cartilage.

http://www.orthoassociates.com/ACL_grafts.htm

Mine was done this way in 1999. Great job no problems even at my age.

Posted by: flynbryan---------------------

http://www.racerxill.com/articles/d...es-stewart.aspx

I'm interested to see the new spin on this one from the gossip queens.....

Posted by: whenfoxforks-ruled---------------------

You have to love guy talk, worse than women. I can not wait till JS gets fixed! Glen Helen it is.

Posted by: trial_07---------------------

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Originally Posted by Racer X, interview with James Stewart

...And then there was another rumor about the whole Monster deal, and that I pulled out because Monster sponsored the series. I have nothing but respect for Red Bull, they were always a good sponsor when I had them around, but I have nothing but respect for Monster, and I don’t have a problem with Monster. Yeah, the team is sponsored by Monster. I’m not sponsored by Monster, the team is, so I don’t have to hold up a can for Monster on the podium.

You’re not getting chug points.
Yeah, it doesn’t matter if I hold up a water bottle or a Monster can. So, for people to say that I pulled out of the supercross season because of Monster, that’s just ridiculous, because you don’t know how much work I put in to get ready for the season. Being the defending champ, you don’t know how good it feels to hear Erv [Braun] come out and say, “the defending supercross champion.” So for me to pull out because I have bitterness against a sponsor, that’s just ridiculous!

I’m sure the fans will understand, and I’m sure some people will still be disappointed. But that one guy with a keyboard and a bad attitude, don’t let him ruin your day.
It’s not. I wanted to talk because first of all I wanted to let everyone know how I was doing and how I miss being out there, and how I was really sad for my fans and for Kawasaki. I just wanted to let everyone know what’s going on and where my head is at. I couldn’t believe I was even in the same category as somebody quitting and faking an injury. That’s ridiculous and I can’t believe my name would come up with something like that.

Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

Drink a Mountain Dew up there on the podium then and see what happens.

Posted by: James---------------------

So did they move Glen Helen back to the first race of the outdoor season or is he planning on coming back for the last race?

Posted by: IndyMX---------------------

First race.. They changed quite a bit of the schedule for this year. Should be interesting.

Posted by: twilliams811---------------------

if he is having acl reconstruction there is no way he will be ready by glen helen. that is a 6 month or more healing process. glen helen is 3 1/2 months away

Posted by: tony91---------------------

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Originally Posted by twilliams811

if he is having acl reconstruction there is no way he will be ready by glen helen. that is a 6 month or more healing process. glen helen is 3 1/2 months away

Exactly. If it's the ACL, we may not see him all summer.

Posted by: James---------------------

I think Carmichael was able to recover in 4 months in 2004.

Posted by: oldguy---------------------

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Originally Posted by twilliams811

if he is having acl reconstruction there is no way he will be ready by glen helen. that is a 6 month or more healing process. glen helen is 3 1/2 months away

For mere mortals you are correct but.....
RC it is 4 months
JBS 4 months
Chuck Norris 1 week after doing the surgery himself
Chad Reed (the warrior) 1 hour

after doing the surgery himself while racing the first moto

Posted by: flynbryan---------------------

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Originally Posted by oldguy

For mere mortals you are correct but.....
RC it is 4 months
JBS 4 months
Chuck Norris 1 week after doing the surgery himself
Chad Reed (the warrior) 1 hour

after doing the surgery himself while racing the first moto

You've got it slightly off though.... Chuck Norris would simply rip out the turn acl with his teeth. Chuck Norris does not need ACL's.

And as for Reed, it would have to be the first heat of the night. Remember, the "warrior" does not do mx.....

Posted by: oldguy---------------------

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Originally Posted by flynbryan

And as for Reed, it would have to be the first heat of the night. Remember, the "warrior" does not do mx.....

You got me there

Posted by: twilliams811---------------------

reed would still win the main after having the surgury after his heat

Posted by: whenfoxforks-ruled---------------------

Reed vs Chuck Norris

Posted by: flynbryan---------------------

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Originally Posted by whenfoxforks-ruled

Reed vs Chuck Norris

Chuck Norris does not need a bike to jump the triples....

Posted by: BigRedAF---------------------

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Originally Posted by twilliams811

reed would still win the main after having the surgury after his heat

Only if RC or JBS crashed more than once in that race

Posted by: twilliams811---------------------

well he still would straight up win if they crashed...cuz it would be there fault..there mistake

Posted by: rickyd---------------------

Reed out smarted Bubba, nothing wrong with that!

Posted by: Reesknight---------------------

James definately has competed with Carmichael for the title of 'fastest rider on the planet' and some contend that the afor mentioned title belongs to James, bar none. But I believe you have to consider the test of time and the consistancy of being the fastest. One lap does not award that title, nor does one race as well as one season. You have to know your limits and think about the long term, and at Stewart's speed, as well as Carmichael's or Reed's, the smallest error can result in injury and/or crash and we have been witness to such events in his(James's) career so far. With the above in mind, McGrath would still hold the title of 'Fastest man on the planet' when it comes to Supercross. 7 time Supercross Champion and even Carmichael, the G.O.A.T can't touch that, even though when Carmichael came up to the premier class, he dominated supercross and resulted in MC not being able to win another race. Then JS comes up and puts it to Ricky, but still does not dominate him. This was some exciting racing!! And all the while, we have Chad Reed, running behind RC, then JS and RC(when they are both racing, second when only one of them are racing) but a long way ahead of the rest of the field. I think Reed knows his limits, and does not surpass them, which are still faster than 99.99% of every rider on the planet. When you look at the above senarios, you have MC, RC, CR and THEN JS contending for that title IMO, as Reed has been VERY consistant, even if it has been in 3rd when RC and JS are present. I don't think CR gets the respect he deserves. I also believe James learned from Reed, when it came to 'complaining' about injuries. If you don't say anything about them, you get more respect, even if you drop out the rest of the season. There is no doubt in my mind that Stewart can put down faster lap times and total race time than ANYONE who has ever had the priviledge of lining up at the start gate of a premier class Supercross race, but he still has several years to go, in good health, to earn the 'Fasterst Rider on the Planet' title. Meanwhile Chad Reed is still right there, in the position to be able to take advantage of any mistake, short or long term, that James makes now, or Carmichael in the past. Right now its the 'Chad Reed Show' and I sincerly hope that James makes it back(at 70% or better according to him) to add some excitment and challenge to the racing, else we are about to witness the Chad Reed era of dominance, and with his record of consistancy, it may just last a while.

At least till Villapoto comes up!

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