Originally Posted by Patman

Sort of depends if the riding area is private property or not. If the fence was placed along the property owners property to keep people from accessing his land then he is in the right. No matter how much somebody thinks you should sue it's just a continuation of the same lack of responsibility attitude that has gotten us in the closed riding area mess we are currently in.

Originally Posted by kschilk

No it doesn't....private land or not, whoever erected the cable and the landowner (if not the same person) are liable and in this case, could be charged with attempted manslaughter or attempted murder. There are laws regarding the posting of private property and the erection of gates, barricades, etc. The precedents are already there.

In my case, we had the landowner's permission to ride on his land...same with ALL adjoining property. The booby-trap was set by another individual, who had no right or permission to be on that land...let alone erect any barricades. It was just some sicko, trying to kill somebody just for kicks.

Originally Posted by TRexRacing

You can never booby trap anything.And I'm sure that falls under the description.Hope ya feel better soon.

Originally Posted by Patman

I am quite familiar with landowner rights and posting laws, I'll venture more so than most including yourself. Perhaps because I am attempting to see the whole picture and not a mioptic litigation slanted view is what allows me to suggest that everything may not be as it seems. Remember there are always 3 sides to every story, both sides and the truth is in the middle.

Attitudes like yours create the problem of closing spaces for all of us to ride. Sue them! Sue them! Spewing the idea to litigate is what keeps most of the bottom feeding scum ambulance chasers in front of us in TV commercials and just cost everyone money and freedom.

BTW the sicko you refer to, how do you know for a FACT he was just trying to kill someone for kicks? Did he admit this in a sworn statement or is it perhaps just your speculation?

Originally Posted by kschilk

First off, we'll start with a little counseling session here. Mod or not, you need to watch your tone....there are more tactful ways to oppose a point, without revealing infinite naivete, making rediculous assumptions and spewing absolutely unfounded accusations.

Had you actually read my post, you'd have noticed I referred only to "prosecution" and never once, mentioned "lawsuit". As for the landowner rights and posting laws, I have to assume you are as inattentive to those, as you were to the post. The perp in question was well known for such actions and was eventually caught and imprisoned, when one of his cables beheaded a local 10 year old. Most of all, watch ANY negative accusations pertaining to freedom... ...I'm a veteran of the Panama, Desert Storm and Somalia conflicts.

Originally Posted by Patman

kschilk, my tone is my tone if I am wearing a mod suit or not it doesn't matter my tone is the same and has always been the same. Perhaps it may have softened a little over the years on DRN come to think of it but the bottom line is I don't change for anybody and it is my opinion like it or not. Yes I am quite the inattentive slacker in regard to my work which might explain why I have been so successful at it for so many years Of course like most of the other parts of this thread the bits of follow up in posts does help clarify things a bit. Keep in mind not everyone is a mind reader or has first hand knowledge of what you are referring to. While I appriciate your service, I don't see how playing the veteran card really pertains in this thread.

Originally Posted by kschilk

Try this...http://esl.about.com/od/teachingeng..._Employment.htm

Originally Posted by _JOE_

..............Patman flips his cape and leaps his pantless @$$ off into the night.............

Originally Posted by Dirtymotonut

Would give the husband as a bonus!

Originally Posted by Dirtymotonut

Unfortunatly HE would have to ask HOW!!