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Malcolm Smith and the bike ban

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Posted by: Mully---------------------

From Cycle News:

http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/i...ike-ban-protest

He "is" the Man !!!!



Posted by: SVTMc-G---------------------

I wish I could go. Nothing like a healthy protest to remind us we're alive! I bet a tre hugger or eco-nazi group may show up?hahaha go malcom!



Posted by: Offroadr---------------------

You go Malcom!!



Posted by: spark250---------------------

I love Malcolm Smith and that is great way to protest! Get some big names and there and start selling bikes.



Posted by: _JOE_---------------------

A local dealer here is still selling them. You can go have your kid chew on one today!

I guess thier attorney told them they don't legally have to stop selling them yet?



Posted by: Ol'89r---------------------

I was in Pep Boys on sunday and they had the usual crap from china sitting on the floor.

I will also be at Malcolms on thursday to purchase some parts for my grandsons RM85 and support Malcolm. He has supported our industry in may ways for many years. It's time we supported him. Everyone from So Cal should be there.

This crap has got to stop and it's up to us to stop it.

It's up to us as individuals to stand up to these dictators to save our sport and now, our country.

If WE ALL don't get involved in this, we will have no sport in the future. The handwriting is on the wall and if this lead ban and the other ridiculous bills that are being thrown at us on almost a daily basis doesn't wake you up, nothing will.



Posted by: ericz103---------------------

Every dealership needs to do this. that would make the ban more untouchable.
And yea I see the china crap still being sold everywhere too. whats with that? I'm sure there is probably more lead in them then actual name brand reputable bikes.



Posted by: Vic---------------------

Must be some lead in bicycles.

Why aren't they banned?



Posted by: Ol'89r---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vic
Must be some lead in bicycles.

Why aren't they banned?


Vic.

The bicycle industry is also involved in this mess. Jogger strollers and bicycle baby seats have also been banned. And yes, the cables on bicycles have lead content.

If we were to think about it, how many things in our daily lives have lead content? How many childrens toys use batterys? A glass of water contains lead trace. The schools in Los Angeles county are having a big problem with extremely high lead content in the drinking fountains. Their answer to that is to have the custodians run all of the taps for 10 minutes every morning. Yeah! That'll fix it.

Maybe the parents should have the schools shut down until the water is safe.



Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ol'89r
Maybe the parents should have the schools shut down.

that'd save some of the time I have to spend deprogramming my kids every day.



Posted by: thumbs---------------------

This bike ban is just nuts. I think I'll make a trip out to Macloms on Thursday to buy something.

Terry - Maybe I'll see you there. I'll head out around lunch time.



Posted by: julien_d---------------------

Bicycles with wheels under 20" are included in the ban. Go try to grab one at wal-mart or Kmart. They've been yanked off the shelves.

I have to say that's an impressive attitude to take. I hope this works out well for him, and that they accomplish something. I wish I could make it, but it's on the other side of the country....

J.



Posted by: _JOE_---------------------

I hope someone has a similar event around here. My boys will be four this summer and they're always asking if they can get a bike. I was going to wait another year, but I might do it early to support the cause.



Posted by: thumbs---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by julien_d
Bicycles with wheels under 20" are included in the ban. Go try to grab one at wal-mart or Kmart. They've been yanked off the shelves.

I have to say that's an impressive attitude to take. I hope this works out well for him, and that they accomplish something. I wish I could make it, but it's on the other side of the country....

J.

Leave now and you can make it. Just take the 40 west for about 2300 miles. I'll even buy you lunch.



Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

those of you going, take lots of pics.

Sounds like a future feature thread.



Posted by: Ol'89r---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by thumbs
This bike ban is just nuts. I think I'll make a trip out to Macloms on Thursday to buy something.

Terry - Maybe I'll see you there. I'll head out around lunch time.



Tony.

The time has been changed from 6:00 AM to 4:00 PM. I have a meeting at 2:00 and will be there as soon as my meeting is over. Hope to see you there.

This is our chance to show these morons in Washington that can't even control their own lives but, want to control ours, that we aren't going to take this lying down.

In all my years as an American citizen, I have never been more ashamed and embarrassed by my government and it's so-called leaders as I am right now.



Posted by: redneckbillybob---------------------

im not fully understanding this ban, they wont sell dirtbikes to kids under 12. So that means they wont be making 50's & 60's any more? Or they wont let kids ride them? Cant dad just walk in and buy a bike for his kid under 12 and let him ride it?



Posted by: redneckbillybob---------------------

im not sure if i fully understand this but if its what i think it is. its totally ridiculous! what about the racing class for the 65's? I dont have kids yet, but one thing I look forward to is one day when I do, being able to ride with my kids, start them out young, and have them smoke me by the time they are 10.



Posted by: nsxxtreme---------------------

Somebody please post pics of this even this is great!!! Glad to see someone stand up to the idiocy!!!!

Does this guy sell parts online? I'd buy parts from him if he does.



Posted by: oldguy---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by redneckbillybob
im not sure if i fully understand this but if its what i think it is. its totally ridiculous! what about the racing class for the 65's? I dont have kids yet, but one thing I look forward to is one day when I do, being able to ride with my kids, start them out young, and have them smoke me by the time they are 10.

Check this link out for a quick explanation
http://www.dirtrider.net/forums3/sh...ad.php?t=170964



Posted by: Rich Rohrich---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by nsxxtreme

Does this guy sell parts online? I'd buy parts from him if he does.



http://www.malcolmsmith.com/



Posted by: redneckbillybob---------------------

where can i get a link to that video? I would like to send it to a friend of mine. NVM i found it. This is just totally ridiculous not allowing kids to dirtbike is insane I mean I really just cant beleive this. What are we coming too?

oh and my best childhood memories were on a dirtbike, when i was so young i still thought girls were gross



Posted by: JWW---------------------

Will be there around 4:30 with my daughter.



Posted by: ws6transam---------------------

Just wanted to chime in,

I wrote my congressman, my senators, and the CPSC about this matter and my congressman, Mike Rogers took the time to write me back. What he told me is that there is no legal restriction to selling existing inventory, that there has been an extension of the law until February 10, 2010 for all retailers in the USA.

Therefore,it would appear that Malcom Smith (and all other retailers) is totally within the law in selling his gear for the next eleven months.



Posted by: whenfoxforks-ruled---------------------

I guess I do not see the big picture. What is the gain from this proposal. Is it too little too late , trying to equalize the foreign trade deficit? I find it real hard to swallow that this is to protect the children. Nordstrom pulled a bunch of womens sandals off the shelf, too high a lead content? So this substance has been documented to be absorbed through the skin? If, a child eats it? What all do children put in their mouths? The books in the library, they are being eaten also? Before this started, number 2 son found out about the lead in tatoo ink coming out of china. Its a binder in dye? There was an issue once with asbestos in building materials. They found it can cause all kinds of bad things down the road. This product when erroneously removed, explodes into microscopic fibers, and in theory, never quits falling. I do know some guys who still believe this was a scam, but, its documented, dangerous, everywhere, listed as a carcinogen, and I do not remember our country going to all these extremes, like now? Yet, cigarettes are still being sold? Is there a positive side to this billchit? Without going al gorr overboard, anything? Other than he obvious? They can mix colors without a lead binder? And all this stupidity, it could not happen at a more economically stressed era?



Posted by: biglou---------------------

My local shop still had their little bikes out yesterday.

I periodically deal with lead at work, and in talking to some of the scientists and engineers, the main route for lead to enter the body is through inhalation or ingestion (eating it). Lead particles that are "suspended in matrix" (cured paint, metal alloys, etc.) are not considered a hazard, and we generally set our exposure levels at 5-10x lower than what OSHA recommends.

So yeah, most all this CPSC stuff is total bullsh1t.



Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by biglou
My local shop still had their little bikes out yesterday.

Mine didn't. Nothing smaller than a 110.



Posted by: thumbs---------------------

Crud. I just remembered I have a meeting at 2pm. As soon as it's over I'll head down there with my camera.

Jeff and Terry - I hope to see yo guys there.



Posted by: Ol'89r---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by ws6transam
Just wanted to chime in,

I wrote my congressman, my senators, and the CPSC about this matter and my congressman, Mike Rogers took the time to write me back. What he told me is that there is no legal restriction to selling existing inventory, that there has been an extension of the law until February 10, 2010 for all retailers in the USA.

Therefore,it would appear that Malcom Smith (and all other retailers) is totally within the law in selling his gear for the next eleven months.


Well that's odd. Nobody has told us that. All of the dealers in this area have removed the bikes from the showroom floor. Chaparral has moved all of their youth bikes, parts and clothing into a warehouse. Can't sell them, can't buy them and we get no answers from the morons at the CPSC. None of my emails and letters have been answered.

This is coming at a time when most dealers and independents are already suffering because of the economy. While they play their games, we go out of business.

Talked to a major distributor friend of mine yesterday and he told me that dentists cannot take x-rays on kids under 13 because of the lead in the lead vests they use to protect them from the x-rays.

Thrift stores are not allowed to sell old clothing. Now, they are banning all childrens books printed before 1985 because of the lead content. This scares me more than the bike ban. BANNING BOOKS???? I'm starting to wonder if this has anything at all to do with lead or protecting the children.

If it's true that they have extended the ban, it's only because of the massive uproar from the industry. I'll believe it when I see it in writing.

We are under attack from all sides. Bills like the ridiculous Flowers bill written by people that want to protect us from ourselves.

Government stealing millions of acres of desert and locking the people that pay for it out. Now, here in Kaliforniastan they are proposing a law that would require dirtbikes to be smog tested. How many do you think will pass?

They are making criminals out of all of us. Even when we try to get legal, they change the laws. If we don't ALL become politically active in this, we will have no sport.

I will post a follow-up when I get back from Malcolms. That is, if I'm not in jail.

Tony and Jeff. See you there.



Posted by: SpDyKen---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by XRpredator
that'd save some of the time I have to spend deprogramming my kids every day.
This is why I spend the money to send my kids to private school. I feel that it would not be possible to de-program every bit of the government/union/liberal propaganda that is indoctrinated into kids in government run schools.



Posted by: redneckbillybob---------------------

"Government stealing millions of acres of desert and locking the people that pay for it out."

it all makes sense now



Posted by: thumbs---------------------

Good turn out. I got pictures and will try to get them up soon. My silly wife wants to eat diner first.



Posted by: JWW---------------------

I was hoping to see a few more people but it was decent.

I spent a few dollars on parts just to support them. Was good seeing you guys again.



Posted by: _JOE_---------------------

They just had some video of this during the SX on Speed. They also had an interview with Tom Self. He has a website that makes it really easy to send a letter to congress...www tomself com.




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