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Portland's next up for HS

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Posted by: Yam7M---------------------

Hey Dave, what's up w/Portland? Looks like Mother Nature may deal us a decent hand for Sunday!!?? You guys always put a great amount of effort into your HS events....much thanks!

Looking forward to supporting D14 Off Roaders at Portland this weekend! Hope to see a GREAT turnout as we get close to the seasons end! Some class championships have yet to be decided!!

I'll be in the front row Rumor has it that Shaggy will be too? Hope he shows me the fast way around the track!

Scotty B, however, will not be present and accounted for in M class. Good luck with going under the knife tomorrow, Scotty. Dr. orders: Soak it in-cider!


Posted by: 09oneL---------------------

Shaggy should ride LT as he spent more time campaigning for it than riding it (no offence shaggy but, you have not been "walking the walk").

PTR is a great event and well run.

PTR seems to draw the highest Team class turnout year over year. It's all yours Shaggy no hole shot bet or anything.

I am 90% sure I will be in HT next year on a new 300XC or XCW - I can't decide wich

Good luck to all. Perhaps Dave L. will be in PINK pants supporting LT again

Transam, you might want to check this out. Ride the 2 hour "Z" class and just have fun. PTR is not a typical HS but you would get the feel of the races and it is close to home.

What was it that Fred T. said about guys that ride PTR?


Posted by: Fred T---------------------

Hey Fred, stirring the pot as usual I see. You made up some quote that I never said in the GLMX thread, of which you have chosen to support and now you are stirring up something about me and Portland here. Well I at least will be at Portland this weekend for the first time ever to support the series, the promoter and to get some points-this is the first year I will have ridden the total qualifying rounds and we will see how I end up. DL don't care for me much already I guess and I'm keeping my mouth shut this year to keep peace and I am riding his track to see for my self. I hear it might snow the night before the race so that should make it interesting.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 09oneL
Shaggy should ride LT as he spent more time campaigning for it than riding it (no offence shaggy but, you have not been "walking the walk").

PTR is a great event and well run.

PTR seems to draw the highest Team class turnout year over year. It's all yours Shaggy no hole shot bet or anything.

I am 90% sure I will be in HT next year on a new 300XC or XCW - I can't decide wich

Good luck to all. Perhaps Dave L. will be in PINK pants supporting LT again

Transam, you might want to check this out. Ride the 2 hour "Z" class and just have fun. PTR is not a typical HS but you would get the feel of the races and it is close to home.

What was it that Fred T. said about guys that ride PTR?



Posted by: Yam7M---------------------

Hear-Hear Freddy T!! You can pit by me buddy! Just make sure to leave me one of my beers after the race!

For what it's worth...I loved your ACTUAL quote and assertion: Riding MX = do a short moto...clean bike.....wait for a couple hours.....do another short moto.....go home.

Question: Have you ever seen a BUSY bike wash station at a HS...or even one at an Enduro?


Posted by: E T---------------------

Hey Mark, Whats you reccomendations on bike choice for this race. Ive heard its vastly moto track, which in that case ill race a '09 CRF450, but if it has any considerable amount of non-quad trail, ill run the two-hunny. Whats your take on it?


Posted by: Yam7M---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by E T
Hey Mark, Whats you reccomendations on bike choice for this race. Ive heard its vastly moto track, which in that case ill race a '09 CRF450, but if it has any considerable amount of non-quad trail, ill run the two-hunny. Whats your take on it?


CRF.....all the way. It will cater to your stregnths fo-sho, Grant. It can be best described as an old school MX/GP track....high speed, deep sand....MX obsticles (nothing crazy, don't worry short-nutz). The woods are snotty clay with imbedded rocks.....and bark busters really aren't needed because of "snug-spots". They're good protection for a tip over tho! The track gets beat....the 2 hour classes end when the overall leader gets to 10 laps....if it's in decent shape, that will happen around 1 hr 40ish. There will be a lot of MX guys come out of the wood work, but they usually don't make it the whole race. Lap times will be around 10-12 minutes. If it's muddy, that will most likely change.

Not to say the 2-hunny wouldn't be a good choice....but if you prefer your CRF for moto....run the CRF.


Posted by: 09oneL---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred T
Hey Fred, stirring the pot as usual I see. You made up some quote that I never said in the GLMX thread, of which you have chosen to support and now you are stirring up something about me and Portland here.


Fred T. Please do not be offended. I was enjoying a few brews last nite and thought I would do a little fishing. Catch and release.

For the record Fred T. never said shat about GP racers

I too, liked the bike wash comment - so true

Good luck at PTR


Posted by: Shagy100---------------------

i can tell scotty b is spreading some words around out there. i have yet to officially decide which class i wanna ride. been tossin around the light team or M class idea as i wanna ride 3 hour solo next year


Posted by: E T---------------------

Ok, Thanks Mark!! Its my little brothers bike and I havent ridden it yet, ill be testing it tomorrow and friday. Im tired of being out motored and the CRF is just sitting there. I just was kinda cautious on running it in the woods, Im not sure how it will do. But if its 80 % moto track and 20 % quad trail ill be putting the first scratches in her this weekend!!! And seeing how far she'll fly and lay over in the air.


Posted by: tdunn976---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by E T
I just was kinda cautious on running it in the woods,:

There's woods at Portland!??


Posted by: E T---------------------

Ive never been there before. My dads not letting me put bark buster on it cause he doesn't want me to cut the throttle tube. Are there any woods to worry about?!?!?!


Posted by: Shagy100---------------------

not really it gets tight for like 25ft but thats it i dont think my bark busters have ever been used at portland


Posted by: E T---------------------

Ok, Thanks! Ill just go old school and let the levers stop the trees.


Posted by: Fred T---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by E T
Ok, Thanks! Ill just go old school and let the levers stop the trees.



NO "old school" is taping gas line to the backs of the levers so they don't smash your fingers as hard-those were the days.......


Posted by: Shagy100---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred T
NO "old school" is taping gas line to the backs of the levers so they don't smash your fingers as hard-those were the days.......

yea when dinosaurs roamed the earth


Posted by: Fred T---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shagy100
yea when dinosaurs roamed the earth



Speaking of dinosaurs.....how's that KX running?


Posted by: Yam7M---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred T
Speaking of dinosaurs.....how's that KX running?






Posted by: Yam7M---------------------

Grant,

It's not even 80/20.....more like 95/5.

We even get a parade lap! I hope short-nutz will escort me around the track for that?


Posted by: Shagy100---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred T
Speaking of dinosaurs.....how's that KX running?

pretty good seeing as i have never had a mechanical failure since ive gotten either of the bikes


Posted by: D.LEATHERS---------------------

Hey guy's,
I thought I'd give an update on my absence on here this week, if anyone gives a sh-t I am on vacation up north with my wife staying with my bro-in law Jeff Hunt & her sister Teri. I will not be at the PTR Harescramble, although not by my choice. I would like to give a "BIG THANK YOU" to everyone in advance for supporting D-14 and Portland Trail Riders M/C.
I sincerly hope everyone enjoy's our track & facility as we spend countless hrs. to make sure everyone has a great day of racing. The Becker brothers will once again be responsible for the track layout. If anyone has any questions regarding this race, you can go to our website Portlandtrailriders.com or call Luke Adams at 517-202-7479. Fred T. "THANK YOU" for finally coming to PTR to check us out, I hope you & your family enjoy themselves. Let me know what you think!!!
I look foward to seeing everyone at Trailfest, I can't wait!!!!

Later,
Dave Leathers.


Posted by: Yam7M---------------------

Thanks Dave. Make the best and have fun!

See you when you see me!


Posted by: E T---------------------

After all this waffling im thinking of becomming a politician , but Im gonna race the 2-hunny. Im pretty sure i would have to fill the 1.5 gal tank on the 450 up twice, and my padre wont let me drill the end of the throttle tube to put the bark busters on. SO, thanks for the help, I just cant bring my self to abandon the KTM considering its been so good to me this year.


Posted by: Yam7M---------------------

The 200 will work just fine Grant. Good choice. Hopefully we won't be the only "wimps" there, while all the other studs are "6th gear WFO for only 35 min" and doing their best "T.P. 199/Jackazz" impressions trying to ride a bigwheel down a hill.


Posted by: E T---------------------

I cant bash it casue I know if there wasnt a HS my ass would be there. But D-14 HS's come first. But you do have a pretty accurate take on that event. The worst part about that race is that the MX guys can probably make it the 35 minutes, but they dont have enought cajones to go much more than that.... I know casue I used to be one of 'em .


Posted by: tdunn976---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by E T
I cant bash it casue I know if there wasnt a HS my ass would be there. But D-14 HS's come first. But you do have a pretty accurate take on that event. The worst part about that race is that the MX guys can probably make it the 35 minutes, but they dont have enought cajones to go much more than that.... I know casue I used to be one of 'em .

What's this "USED TO BE" Stuff, Sandbagger?


Posted by: Rivard809---------------------

I used to be able to run 2 hard laps, then hit the probverbial brick wall, but now I dont get arm pump and generally speaking dont get tired during enduros. I can still throw down some bubba scrubs though.


Posted by: 09oneL---------------------

Grant, I agree with Mark on the 200. I have ridden a 200 a few times at PTR and as you know if you are on the pipe the 2 honey screams - you will be fine

Mark, This year I rode 10 D-14 HS's and 3 D-14 MX's and will be riding Bulldog MX on the 18th. I was riding D-14 events in 1976 when you were riding Big Wheels, well probably not quite but you get the point. I am not the DEVIL


Posted by: Shagy100---------------------

so fred your sayin your older than dirt itself almost Im just messin with ya


Posted by: 09oneL---------------------

Yes Shaggy I am pretty darn old (45) But, the dirt is still good and I love to ride.

I really wish this deal did not conflict with PTR but, I was not planning to ride PTR anyway but, I am sure it will pull a few folks that would have indeed rode PTR.

Note I will only be buying the 5.00 weekend pass for the other guys as I have no interest riding any of there events other than this one.

Good luck to all of you riding this weekend and I'll try not to let Mr. 6th gear WFO blow by me. I do sort of expect to get whipped, but you never know if you don't go.


Posted by: ChrisKring---------------------

what time is the 50 exhibition class race at? Do I have enough time to get myself ready between the boy racing that and me racing in the afternoon?

Is the 50 course pretty easy for a 6 year old to follow? He has no problem on a kids MX track (Big Air, Red Bud, Etc) or on trails but I am worried he might get confused if it is not taped good.

Does he need a D14 license?


Posted by: Yam7M---------------------

Chris,

The 50's normally run at or near the same time as the quads....so EARLY. I have seen people show up too late. Get there around 7:30 to be safe...you may have to wait a little while, but you won't miss it then for sure! You will then have at least 1.5-2.5 hours until you race. It might take Tommy D. longer than that to figure out where he put his lucky BVD's from the 1981 JP that he has deemed his "lucky britches", that he MUST wear on race day....but you will have more than enough time to get ready.

The 50 course at Portland is very easy. Sand and a couple of small off-cambers for the little guys...but that's it. The dads are out there (moms too!) helping out. They let them go for about 1/2 hr. Portland does a great job with marking this course. It will be very easy for you boy, from the sounds of it.

No, I do not believe that you have to have a D14 membership.....but AMA is a yes. Since it's an exhibition class (non D14 points paying), you do not need a D14 membership to participate.


Posted by: Yam7M---------------------

Mixed bag for me yesterday.

5:50 a.m.: Wake up
6:50 a.m.: In treestand
8:30 a.m.: Got down, saw 2, no shots taken
9:50 a.m.: Arrive at Portland
10:00 a.m.: Said Hi to Short-Nuts...he didn't look as cold as I felt. Must be the cake.
1:00ish p.m.: Go into first corner with M class, remembering why I don't like to run M class.
2:00 ish p.m.: Crash my brains out entering cornfield. Saw my rear tire coming around me prior to face-planting . Course worker encouraged me to "STAY ON THE GROUND...DON'T MOVE DUDE".
2:02 ish p.m.: Got going again. Not sure why.
2:20 ish p.m.: Crashed hard AGAIN, while getting lapped by BJ.....who had the ride of his life yesterday . Considered quitting again.....
2:23 ish p.m.: Crashed hard for the 3rd time trying to get around a lapper that I had previously passed prior to crashing the second time. Considered quitting again....
3:40 ish p.m.: Race over. Thanked the Lord for the merciful ending of the days crash-fest. Worst race for me in 4 years or more.
4:30 ish p.m.: Enjoyed my 3rd beer, courtesy of Dave Leathers...thanks Dave. I needed that. Told Dave I was going to hurry home to climb back in the tree and pout about the days events.
5:45 p.m.: Got home. Took the proverbial "smell like nothing" shower.
6:10 p.m.: Settled into treestand.
6:50 p.m.: Saw first deer.
7:20 p.m.: 4 more came past. Put the pin on the lead "alpha" doe and let 'er rip.
8:00 p.m.: Started tracking blood trail.
8:20 p.m.: Located deer! Only went about 60 yds.
8:25 p.m.: Realized gutting deer with bruises all over the place, road rash and blisters, combined with being sore as you-know-what, isn't much fun.
8:45 p.m.: Hung deer in barn.

What a day!


Posted by: tdunn976---------------------

Always a Silver Lining!
Good hunting, see ya at CMB


Posted by: 09oneL---------------------

Mark,

Thanks for the full report - good read for sure

You still did quite well - I looked at the scores

Really good Team class turnout - as usual at PTR

Tender loins for dinner!

I personally would rather gut a doe than a buck and same goes for the table. Nice job on the good kill shot


Posted by: Yam7M---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by tdunn976
Always a Silver Lining!
Good hunting, see ya at CMB


I'm out for CMB. I wish I could go....assuming I'd get points, I'd be the only guy to get overall points at every HS this year.....but, my wife is leaving for France that day for work.

She'll be gone for the week. I should invite Scotty B to heal up from surgery at my place. My wife would wonder why all the rooms had glitter all over the place though


Posted by: tdunn976---------------------

Forgot about the France Thing!
See ya at the Banquet then,Sir.


Posted by: Yam7M---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by tdunn976
Forgot about the France Thing!
See ya at the Banquet then,Sir.


Ha! Sorry Tom, but I'm out for the banquet this year. First time in 12 years. After all the drama last year I'm going to try and do my best to sit back and watch the fireworks. I answered too many emails and phone calls last year....I'll let someone else have the fun this year and just say "I wasn't there, take it up with....". At least I'll try to do that.

Instead, I'll be "racing" my mtn bike with 3,900 other wing-nuts from Kalkaska to T.C.! Becker and DW are going. Should be fun. I'm bringing the whole family and staying at the Great Wolf Lodge. Fun for the kids and grandma.....and a night out in T.C. for me and the wife!

Soooooo.....I'll see you at the December meeting! Have fun at CMB and the remainder of your enduro's bud!

By the way...I forgot to ask you something yesterday....Did you lose a bet? I noticed you were looking pretty light in the hair department yesterday.


Posted by: Yam7M---------------------

C'mon Freddy T......no comments from the peanut gallery? Looks like you were pretty close to the guys 2 positions ahead of you?

Grant rode real well, of course.

Not the best layout Portland has ever had, for what it's worth.


Posted by: Fred T---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yam7M
C'mon Freddy T......no comments from the peanut gallery? Looks like you were pretty close to the guys 2 positions ahead of you?

Grant rode real well, of course.

Not the best layout Portland has ever had, for what it's worth.


I was shooting my self in the foot all day missing the Euro cross section and taking the by pass, I just never saw the turn cause i was skeert landing the downside of that table just before the turn to the euro cross section. thats worth about 20 seconds a lap. stupid mistake. I do remember making the final tight right hander off the track on the very back side and telling my self "F-ing corn field coming up again!" lap after lap after lap.


Posted by: Wolverine423---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yam7M

Put the pin on the lead "alpha" doe and let 'er rip.

Thata boy! It's not always about shooting the buck.


Posted by: Rivard809---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yam7M

Grant rode real well, of course.



Thanks Mark!!! It was a good day, other than some people dont know how to loose gracefully, and tried getting me DQ'd casue I broke through a banner. The best part was that I stopped and let him catch back up. Oh well, I guess if you cant win on the track, try to get the person who whooped you disqualified. I just expected more from people, its amazing how quick someone can go from saying hi everytime you walk by, to making a scene for 4 points.


Posted by: Yam7M---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred T
I was shooting my self in the foot all day missing the Euro cross section and taking the by pass, I just never saw the turn cause i was skeert landing the downside of that table just before the turn to the euro cross section. thats worth about 20 seconds a lap. stupid mistake. I do remember making the final tight right hander off the track on the very back side and telling my self "F-ing corn field coming up again!" lap after lap after lap.


Dude, I thought you saw me when I came out of the stupid Euro section around 1 hour? I came from your right as you were coming over that stupid little pile of clay and waved at you?

The cornfield was grim. I cartwheeled entering that section off the MX course....I'm still hurting. Glad I'm not going to CMB now. Too old and don't heal up as quick, I guess.


Posted by: Yam7M---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rivard809
Thanks Mark!!! It was a good day, other than some people dont know how to loose gracefully, and tried getting me DQ'd casue I broke through a banner. The best part was that I stopped and let him catch back up. Oh well, I guess if you cant win on the track, try to get the person who whooped you disqualified. I just expected more from people, its amazing how quick someone can go from saying hi everytime you walk by, to making a scene for 4 points.


I did hear about that, Grant.

I over-jumped the little table top on the infield that we had to make an immediate rt after...just after the stadium whoop section? Anyways, I blew through it and just turned right around and got back on the track right where I got off. No harm, no foul.

But, if you get off the track and then don't make every attempt to re-enter in the same spot....it's questionable. Did you let him take the lead? Glad to hear that Kidner and the referee made it right?

For what it's worth.....that layout was not the best routing that they've had. Although it is what it is......I thought this past spring, and last fall for that matter, had a better layout. Trying to "escargo" us through a cornfield was kinda grim


Posted by: Rivard809---------------------

Same exact spot!! blew over the skip jump and went through the banner. I skipped the subsequent left and got back on the right, but slowed down and let him get closer than he was before the incident. He passed me through the Euro section right after I let him catch up and had about a 20 second lead, so the track offical said being he had his chance to win they wernt gonna dock me.

My whole thing was that although this is not MX, the mx rules or unnoffical rules are that if you go off, get back on when safe, and do not gain an advantage. So i made sure that if anyone gained an advantage, HE did!!! And he still had a problem, that what shocked me.


Posted by: Yam7M---------------------

Yeah, I hear you. Just remember that our rules are different, because of the woods coming into play. We have to make every attempt to safely turn around off the track and get back on as close to the point you got off. Who knows, if you did that and he passed you he may not have bitched at all?? Tough call, of course. Glad it worked out dude.


Posted by: Fred T---------------------

Grant
Just properly prepare your 200 for this Sunday-take time to look it over really good this time, eat healthy, get lots of rest and then on Sunday just whup his azz on the track so he knows with out a doubt that you are faster than him. Then at the banquet buy him a drink, tell him you are moving on to the 3 hr class so the Z class in the 2010 season is all his to prove you are the better man.


Posted by: Yam7M---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolverine423
Thata boy! It's not always about shooting the buck.



Thanks DW. Trying to do my part with the deer population around the house. The buck-doe ratio is way out of whack. The neighbors would rather shoot a 4 pt than take a mature doe....so our numbers are screwy.

Belly loins were tasty last night......more on the grill tonight!


Posted by: tdunn976---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yam7M
Thanks DW. Trying to do my part with the deer population around the house. The buck-doe ratio is way out of whack. The neighbors would rather shoot a 4 pt than take a mature doe....so our numbers are screwy.

Belly loins were tasty last night......more on the grill tonight!

What time!!!!


Posted by: Rivard809---------------------

This should solve all the problems that I had at Portland


http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/ind...mageID=63326209


Posted by: D.LEATHERS---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rivard809
This should solve all the problems that I had at Portland


http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/ind...mageID=63326209


Good One Grant. Glad you made the switch to Off-Road, LOOKOUT GUY'S MX'er turned off-roader=FAST!! :yikes I can see a B-Hi-point trophy in your future. See-Ya at Trailfest!!!


Dave L.


Posted by: ChrisKring---------------------

Dave

For what it's worth, I emailed and called the portland club trying to get an exact time on when the 50 exhibition race was. Never got a reply. Stayed home since I got home at 11pm from the Otsego race. The portland HS wasn't going to happen unless junior was racing.


Posted by: D.LEATHERS---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisKring
Dave

For what it's worth, I emailed and called the portland club trying to get an exact time on when the 50 exhibition race was. Never got a reply. Stayed home since I got home at 11pm from the Otsego race. The portland HS wasn't going to happen unless junior was racing.


I'm sorry that you didn't get a response from our club. Did you check our website?? The kids & Quads ALWAYS run in the morning, for MX & H/S as do most of the other Clubs. I am not running PTR as in years past, so I make no excuses. Hope to see you at Trailfest!!!

Dave L.


Posted by: Yam7M---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisKring
Dave

For what it's worth, I emailed and called the portland club trying to get an exact time on when the 50 exhibition race was. Never got a reply. Stayed home since I got home at 11pm from the Otsego race. The portland HS wasn't going to happen unless junior was racing.



Chris,

Again, for what it's worth....if they did give you more of an exact time as I previously had....you would have been upset anyways, as they had to wait about an hour or more due to the ambulance folks not showing up as they were scheduled to.

The 50cc race is an exhibition. Start times will never be exact. Sorry. I did my best.


Posted by: ChrisKring---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yam7M
Chris,

Again, for what it's worth....if they did give you more of an exact time as I previously had....you would have been upset anyways, as they had to wait about an hour or more due to the ambulance folks not showing up as they were scheduled to.

The 50cc race is an exhibition. Start times will never be exact. Sorry. I did my best.


I only wanted to directly ask the club since I heard from someone else that they typically ran at the same time as the mini's on a seperate course. The minis don't run until 11am.

Sorry, i am just trying to give feedback to the promoters since I know if I get frustrated by lack of information then I know others do to. I appreciate you guys help with info but the promoter should really be putting it up on their website. Look at the Great Lakes Grand Prix. I knew exactly when I would be racing a week before I went up there. Therefore, I could plan for travel time. That is one of the things I like about harescrambles is that I know that the big bikes will be starting around 12-1pm.

I would suggest moving the 50 class to later since getting kids up to be at the track and ready to race at 7:30am is pretty early.


Posted by: Yam7M---------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisKring
I would suggest moving the 50 class to later since getting kids up to be at the track and ready to race at 7:30am is pretty early.


That's a good idea. They could run it after all the other races are done? I like that.

I understand that the GLMX was a well run MX event. None of the classes were exhibition and run on a completely separate course though.

These clubs have to put together 4 separate courses: A quad course; a bike course; a mini bike course; and an exhibition mini bike course. I understand that Portland doesn't have as many changes as some of the other venues, but they still have quite a few balls in the air, both on race day and the week leading up to the race.

That's why the officers try and help out with these types of questions. And for what it's worth, I was accurate with the time that I gave you.



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