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What Dampener???

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Posted by: Speedy---------------------

Just wondering what Dampener u guys are all running..... Im confused on what one to get:think .. What ones are easyier to put on??/ What one is cheaper???? What one is the best bang for the buck??? I have a 96 KDX 200 with the pro taper high rise neck and bars!!! I have been looking at the Scotts!!! Seems really nice!!! What do u guys think?:confused:


Posted by: Fred T---------------------

I have the WER, got it in October so I don't have a lot of time on the bike but it really works. If you click on my photos you can see it mounted on my bike. I think either Rocky Mountain or Bobs cycle selle them for the KDX for a few bucks less than getting them directly from WER.


Posted by: canyncarvr---------------------

1. Buy a WER.

Decide you hate it and it's ugly.

2. Buy a scott's

3. Sell me the WER for $100, complete with mounting bracket.


WERs are considerably less money. Scotts units get in the way of any other thing requiring 'dash space'..like a computer. Scott's are 'adjustable' on the fly, but I've never heard anyone say that mattered. WERs mount lower (at the bottom fork clamp) and so by physics rule MUST do a better job of controlling flex. Scott's will NOT mount on a standard bar setup, cuz of the space required between the bar clamp and the crossbar. They DO make 'special' bars for use with the Scott's that have bowed crossbars.

I'd prefer to NOT have anything metal closer to my head than it already is.

BUT, the Scott's is an impressive looking unit!!!

So...paypal, MO or cashier's check. Let me know.


Posted by: Speedy---------------------

So is this a bolt on too cause the Scotts is a bolt on??? And like i say,, i do have pro taper so the Scotts isnt in my way and i dont run a computer... Ive seen some Sweet pitchures of how to put A Scotts on and where? They had it in two different mounting(one was under the big pad) places but im looking into that WER...Sounds like a goodie...


Posted by: motochick---------------------

We have five enduro bikes and five WER's. Only one was purchased for the full price, I bought 3 of them off this site!! I think they work just great.

Brenda


Posted by: canyncarvr---------------------

As I understand it, either unit will bolt or weld. Depends on the method you choose. Bolt allows you to xfer the unit to your next new bike (ha!).

yeah, yeah, brenda. You keep telling me about all those wers from this site..I've been looking for months and haven't gotten one yet!

..guess I'm not holding my breath just right? I'm just unlucky???

...nobody loves me, everybody hates me..think I'll eat a worm!

re: 'under the big pad'.

?? On the crossbar? Some guys 'machine' their pads to fit the scotts. Have seen that.

btw..rocky mountain's WER price is $320. In stock even. The other retail prices I've seen are generally $349.

Hey! I need one for the hollister nationals in a couple weeks!!!


Posted by: justql---------------------

My GasGas has protapers, I have a scotts on it with a bolt on post(GG cannot have welded post). I have the Scotts billet computer gaurd. The setup looks and performs well, I have never had the post slip, and I've never had any problems hitting it. Lorin has made a pad to go over his. You might PM him and ask him how he did it.


Posted by: jo8243---------------------

I have the scotts on my KDX200. Got the scotts triple clamp combo (damper, triple clamp, bar clamps, and pro taper bars). Haven't had it very long but loved it from the first ride with it. Looks cool and works great. Everyone I ride with runs the scotts. Never met anyone running the WER.

And I use the adjustment on-the-fly while riding. I make it overly stiff in higher speed sections and looser in tight stuff where you are turning a lot.

It installed very easily. No welding needed if you ask for the bolt-on kit, but you can get a weld on if you want.


Posted by: LWilson250---------------------

I have a Scotts on my KX250 and it's great! I have the Jimmy Button bars made by Renthal, they are a high bend bar that fits well with the damper. Around here it's all anyone runs.

Lee W.


Posted by: Fred T---------------------

If you have your heart set on a Scotts than I ain't gonna talk you otta one. I did notice that you ride in MI like I do. Anyone I know that has one here in MI except for one guy on a funny orange colored bike uses a WER. In MI, the trails are whooped, can be tight, have lots of trees, stumps and not a lot of real high speed stuff on the single laners. The WER is all you need and it costs less. It helps keep the bars in your hands if you knick a tree or bump a stump. (Not that I've ever done that) IT helps you in the deep sand too keeping your front wheel tracking with less wobble when the sand dries out and gets deep in the slower going when you can't pin the throttle.


Posted by: Asrith---------------------

So are the Scotts and WER provide the same effect? Does the WER work better for them michigan trails as descibed above? What could you expect form Scotts under the same conditions. Just felt like being the devils advicate.



Posted by: dirt bike dave---------------------

I've owned and both and they each work great! IMO, without looking down you would be hard pressed to tell which was on the bike. Doesn't matter which one you get, just get one. Next to dialing in your jetting and setting up your suspension, a damper is about the best thing you can do.

The shift on the fly feature of the Scott's is nice to have when you know the trails. Dial in some extra damping for high speed & whoops and lossen it up a little for super tight technical woods. You can do the same with the WER, you just have to stop first.

If you are riding in an unfamiliar area, just set it and forget it.


Posted by: dhoward---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by dirt bike dave
..You can do the same with the WER, you just have to stop first.


Dave, you sissy! I just lean over the headlight, reach down and adjust my WER on the fly!
J/K
I have the WER and like it a lot, made a big difference in the sand. You'll have to cut a little plastic off of the bottom of the headlight shell though...


Posted by: Fred T---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Asrith
So are the Scotts and WER provide the same effect? Does the WER work better for them michigan trails as descibed above? What could you expect form Scotts under the same conditions. Just felt like being the devils advicate.


Well the Scotts will leave your wallet with less money in it so you will have less weight on your bike if you carry your wallet when riding, I guess that will make you faster huh?


Posted by: selmgren---------------------

I run the Scotts on my KX500 with the pro tapers, ride desert and race the dez in district 37. I like the ability to adjust on the fly with the scotts which you can't do with the WER. Everybody out west in the desert, run either the Scotts or the GPR, another quality stabilizer which is adjustable on the fly. If you haven't visted Scotts Performance website do yourself a favor, lots of cool pictures and goodies. Scotts makes computer mounts that allow you to mount the computer next to the stablizer. Don't remember the website address so just type scotts performance in the search engine. You'll find it!! As far as the mounting post I went with the weld-on, it seems to me to be a stronger mount. The bolt on posts are bike specific and are not always interchangable with other bikes. The stablizer will work on any bike so you can take it off one bike and put it on another.


Posted by: dirt bike dave---------------------

[QUOTE]Originally posted by dhoward
[B]

Dave, you sissy! I just lean over the headlight, reach down and adjust my WER on the fly!
J/K


If I ride really slow I can do the same thing! You'll have to trust me, it's pretty hard to do when you ride fast.


Posted by: dhoward---------------------




Posted by: jimicarl---------------------

got a WER on the 220. works great. have the fork tubes raised in the clamps almost 15mm, so needed something to keep it straight on the rocks, roots, & every other deflection hazard with my name on it. besides the smaller c-shaft sprocket, it's the best mod i've done. adjust it in the morning, & leave it alone all day. actually..., adjust it january 1st and pretty much leave it alone all year.

most folks in our club run the scotts. have yet to see anybody actually take their hands off the controls to adjust it on the fly. about 1/3 of us run the WER. paid $300 from a dealer, a year ago.

having tried a couple of bikes with the scotts..., i can't tell that there's a whole lot of obvious difference in how they feel.

by-the-by..., rode a 200 without a damper, that had the back end set up a little soft and the fork tubes down in the clamps as far as possible. with the forks kicked out like that..., i don't think it needed a damper!



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