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Posted by: Lorin---------------------
As you know, there are some concerns about the upcoming events happening around Lake Draper and the plans that the city has to change it. There is a meeting planned at the Draper Marina on Thursday, April 11 at 7:30 PM. Some of the city representatives are going to be in attendance and we are trying to get anybody possible to show up for the meeting and help represent the ORV users. The more the better, so if you are able to attend, please do so. Contact anyone possible and please help get the message out.
Posted by: Okiewan---------------------
Added to news.
Posted by: Calcaneus---------------------
Thanks for the alert Lorin. Unfortunately I'm not going to be able to make it. Let us know how it goes.
Posted by: BSWIFT---------------------
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Originally posted by Calcaneus
Thanks for the alert Lorin. Unfortunately I'm not going to be able to make it. Let us know how it goes.
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Send those emails though! Ever little bit will help.
Posted by: OldMaiconut---------------------
I will be out there tomorrow night. A golf course fercryinoutloud!!?? I used to have a little admiration for the politico that's behind this, but now I'm starting to see that He's about as crooked as a dog's hind leg. Hope we can make a difference. Best use I can think of for a golf couse is breaking in a fresh 4.50 Metzler on a 501 Maico 
Posted by: Calcaneus---------------------
Does anyone have an e-mail address where we could make our opinions known?
Posted by: Lorin---------------------
The meeting tonight is the starting point of getting our point across. Brent Reinhart of the City Council will be in attendance and is supposed to answer some questions. Quite a few of the Okie Dirt Riders spent last night calling prospective contacts in hopes of getting them and their friends to show up at the marina tonight. While there, we will also be getting e-mail addresses and contact information from everyone that we can in hopes of setting up some bulletins via e-mail, etc. The Okie Dirt Riders have been enlisting the help of all of the local dirt bike shops and anyone else possible in hopes of getting the word around. This IS a big deal. Even if you cant attend, send me your contact information via pm and I will add it to the list. I will try to get some other e-mail addresses as they become available. More updates to follow.
Posted by: MXP1MP---------------------
You know when I was achingly reading this enviromental science book, enviromentalists really bagged on golf courses for excessesive run off into the soil/water cause of excessesive fertilizers used. If I could go I would strongly voice my opinion to oppose a damn gold course. Were I live there's easy 5 courses all within about 30 mins or less of each other! I know this is alittle off topic but I bet they are thinking its a golf course its better for the enviroment than those nasty dirt bikes probably. I wonder how many more tree's they are going to cut down just to make it. sorry i'm just trying to stimulate some different point of views to help keep it.
"because gold courses really should be motocross tracks"
Posted by: OldMaiconut---------------------
My guess is that it's more related to the revenue stream than the environment. Golfers pay more fees than bikers.
Posted by: BSWIFT---------------------
True oldmaiconut but they have to pay people to maintain it. The users of Draper ORV do the maintenance at no cost to the city.
Posted by: OldMaiconut---------------------
Well folks...it's all over but the crying. I just got back from the meeting at Draper Marina. It was not a real pretty scene. There was a lot of rude people shouting comments and interupting City Councilman Rinehart. Also four burly members of the OKC PD who made their presence known as the speaker moved to the microphone. The gist of things are as follows... The development sounds to be a done deal. It is not fully funded, but you could see that the trend was not "if" but "when". The councilman mentioned a target date of September 1st to have the ORV area "moved" He is proposing a 2000 acre area near West Elm creek to be designated as a new ORV area with trailhead access, camping, showers etc. Sounds great on the surface, but the existing trails at Draper were 30 years in the making. I am coming along late in the game, but have extensive experience in another noisy an unpolitically correct hobby, (shooting) and I have seen this type of thing happen before. You are dealing with a powerful young congressman and the City council looking to get federal money to the tune of 38 to 40 million to develop the area around the lake. In my opinion, the best course of action would be to forget about the existing area, and work with the city to get the West Elm area for our use. Rinehart repeatedly said "this is a long term deal" but it appears to me that the short term plan ie: 9/1/02!! is to close down the trails.
Posted by: BSWIFT---------------------
Posted by: Calcaneus---------------------
I just watched the coverage on channel 5. They certainly weren't sympathetic for our cause. The sad thing is we will probably lose West Elm as soon as they get funding for the " Back Nine".
Posted by: Lorin---------------------
Oddly enough, some of the rude people mentioned were actually city employees. Cant help but wonder why they were there, unless it was to instigate problems. The writing on the wall does seem clear enough though. They have formal plans for quite a few areas (bike trails, camping, fishing, etc), but NO formal plan for ORV's, just a loose promise that we will get 2000? acres somewhere. My fear about receiving the West Elm area is that the future plans for Draper include a second lake to help increase the city water supply. Guess where the second lake is? How does the West Elm Resovoir sound? The obvious concern is that this land will be "given" to us to appease us for the time being and may eventually end up being underwater. If that is indeed the case, we will be out of a riding area. Keep in mind, this is one of the worst case scenarios, but it seems more than a little likely.
Posted by: OldMaiconut---------------------
Yeah, that one city yahoo was complaining about getting paid $18.71 an hour to post signs for the Okie Dirt riders. Sounds like job security to me. The only definate plans I could determine for the ORV issue was to "move" it by 9/1. I would like to see cooler heads try and work with the city to secure a 99 year lease at $1.00 a year on a 2000 acre site and ask for no other support. I think that a motivated group of riders could improve and run the site themselves through fees and local sponsorship.
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