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SC-NC Crew Nov 16-17th ride?

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Posted by: linusb---------------------

So who is in for a ride this weekend? If we do TNT, I'd like to wait until Sunday to give the Saturday riders a chance to sling some of the mud off of the track.

Ivan and I have been discussing riding at Manchester State Forest one of these times. It is located just north of Sumter, SC and consists primarily of 3 separate OHV trails. One is 9 miles, one is 8 miles, and another is about 1.5 miles. Trails are sandy and usually pretty whooped up. They are fun riding. THere is also a motocross track there but last time I was there the jump faces were worn down to the point where you really couldn't jump them. The track would make for some fun racing though. :thumb:

Here's a link if anyone is interested: http://www.sctrails.net/Trails/ALLT...Blue%20OHV.html

I think daily permits are either $5 or $10 and annual permits are $25. It's probably about 1 1/2 hour drive from TNT.

If we decide on Manchester, I can do either day.


Posted by: truespode---------------------

Manchester is only open on Sunday.

I can do TNT Saturday and possibly Manchester Sunday (either that or I have to pick a day... not sure yet).


Who else is in? I'll make my plans from what the group decides.

Ivan


Posted by: linusb---------------------

Ugh, forgot about that Sunday only thing and Manchester. :o


Posted by: MadMark---------------------

Hey guys,
I've never ridden with you guys but I've seen a few of your posts here and on NCHSA. I've only been in Charlotte for about a year. I've rode most of the spots around here and hit some of the NCHSA races. I broke my bike in July and due to new house, yada, yada I just got 'er all back together. I need to break it in and see if I remember how to ride it! I was thinking of hitting TNT Saturday. I haven't been to Sumter but I've heard it was fun-might also be good if it rains in the sand. Do you need a spark arrestor there?
Mark


Posted by: High Lord Gomer---------------------

I'll check with the boss.;..I don't know if we can make it up to TNT on Saturday or Sunday, yet, but it will be one of them.


Posted by: James---------------------

I'm in for either/both days at this point. I can let the guys with bosses and other "whipped" situations decide which day/where OR if nobody can decide, I'll be glad to lay down the agenda.

Hey Mark, just look for a bunch of tired guys and that is probably us. I think most of us except Linus are on Honda's (But Linus has Red gear), so if you see a big red pile on the side of the track resting...that's us too.


Posted by: slacker00---------------------

I'm busy both days

Where were all yooz guyz last Sunday? Had a blast... well except for the four times I crashed!! Hehehe... girlfriend said I wasn't riding aggresively enough the last time out so dummy me..... I decide to become mister aggresive in the mud!!

I'm okay... thanks for asking DOHHH!!!

The crashes didn't hurt as much as falling down the embankment trying to get out of the way of the guy jumping over my wreckage in the newly filled gully jump as I tried to get my bike out of the four foot deep rut I got stuck in!! Did ya get that?

Have fun everyone......


Posted by: High Lord Gomer---------------------

We'll be there Saturday afternoon.

Usually I just *tell* the boss, but it's her birthday this weekend...


Posted by: linusb---------------------

Manchester isn't near as fun as TNT, but could be a good alternative in the case of poor weather. I'll plan on TNT for Saturday. I probably won't be there til about noon.

Hope to see you out there MadMark.

James: I resemble..err..resent that whipped comment.


Posted by: High Lord Gomer---------------------

MadMark...what will you be riding/driving?

We'll be in a Funmover with a YZ250 #410 and an XR50 #24. I'll just be watching / taking pictures. Look for an old, fat guy with a camera.

You might have ridden with Ivan or me...we've done a couple of the NCHSA hare scrambles.


Posted by: MadMark---------------------

I'll be in a white F-150 /01 YZ250 #439. I should be there @ 10. Almost 4 months without riding.....I'm DYING!!!!! I haven't been to TNT since early spring. Any new changes?


Posted by: truespode---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by High Lord Gomer
You might have ridden with Ivan or me...we've done a couple of the NCHSA hare scrambles.


Done? Don't you mean they did me in?

I'm number 944 on a CR450F.

Ivan


Posted by: _SOLO_---------------------

I wish, no riding for me since DW. I'm supposed to race Saturday but I don't see that happening.


Posted by: James---------------------

Slacker, are you saying that the gully jump has been filled WITH DIRT or was it just temporarily filled with your wreckage?


Posted by: High Lord Gomer---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by MadMark
I haven't been to TNT since early spring. Any new changes?
A TON! In addition to a bunch of stuff on the big track, they also have an intermediate track, now.

As far as changes in the woods, I don't know...I don't go there. I've heard too many stories of "Two go in...one comes out." :scream:


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

I just scored a three-rail trailer on a popular internet auction site. It's in Charlotte, NC, so I'll be in your neck of the woods one day this weekend. If you guys decide on a day/place/time, I can meet you and hang out for a bit.


Posted by: truespode---------------------

I'll be showing up on Saturday at TNT between noon and 1.

Ivan


Posted by: _SOLO_---------------------

It is supposed to rain Saturday isn't it?


Posted by: linusb---------------------

Forecast isn't looking good. :whiner: I may try to do Manchester Sunday if this rain arrives as predicted. Anyone want to come?


Posted by: James---------------------

Ivan and I PLAN on doing TNT Saturday and Manchester Sunday...SOOOO...we'll go with ya Linus.

I should be at TNT by noon on Saturday...have to reassemble my bike again in the morning.


Posted by: truespode---------------------

If it is raining I'm gonna call TNT and see how the track is. I'm not going if it is going to be muck.

Manchester on Sunday is supposed to be mostly sunny and nice. The trails should be in good shape from the rain on Saturday (Manchester soaks up a flood like a sponge).

One thing... make sure you get a permit for Manchester... go to www.scohv.org and click on the OHV link and then the Manchester link. SCORE has put in a lot of effort to get some things done there and we are having a few challenges so please get a permit (even though it can be tough to find the place to get it if the gun range is closed).

Ivan


Posted by: MadMark---------------------

Where is the gun range located in relation to the trailhead? Do they check to make sure you have a S/A-because I don't. I'm not sure if I can make it Sunday-If I can it will be early. What time did you guys plan on going? If the weather doesn't cooperate I might just have to play hooky and hit TNT a day next week-anybody game?


Posted by: whyzee---------------------

you guys have fun and stay dry, wish we could make it . Lil96 & I will be @ TNT next weekend both Sat & Sunday. Hope to see ya all then.


Posted by: truespode---------------------

Don't worry about an SA... as long as your bike is in good shape and you have a permit you'll be fine.

I'm not riding the next two weekends due to travel commitments.

Planning on a ride Dec 7th at Mill Creek in Alabama.

Ivan


Posted by: 2000SE---------------------

JAMES.. the gully jump has not been completely filled just a little bit..or maybe a lot if you are stuck in the 4 foot deep rut that was there Saturday..i just jump over all that crap...doesn't affect me whether it is filled or not


Posted by: High Lord Gomer---------------------

2000SE...is that you, Ken?

The gun range is on the left on 261 (?) a few miles before you get to Rimini Road.


Posted by: linusb---------------------

If I'm not at TNT tomorrow, I'll definitely be at Manchester on Sunday.

The gun range is approximately 1 1/2 miles before the trailhead on the left hand side. If it is open, you can buy a permit there.


Posted by: James---------------------

That's not Ken, talked to Ken on the phone yesterday and he said he hasn't jumped it yet.

Ken, Slacker, (maybe Doug) and I were also talking about going one day next week. I'll let you know which day Mark (as soon as I find out).


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

Today's forecast for Birmingham has been changed to NO rain.

Maybe we'll get lucky in NC too. SOLO is going to ride up with me, so expect us around 11 or 12.


Posted by: truespode---------------------

80% chance of Rain Sat... 60% chance on Sunday at TNT.

Not looking nice.

As for Manchester, if the gun range isn't open you have to go to the Ranger's building or something like that. It is a haul and sometimes they don't have permits out (I know, how do they expect you to follow the rules when they don't give you what you need to do it). If the permits aren't out I usually put money in the drop box wrapped in a piece of paper with a date and the serial number of the bill I put in. Then I put the serial number of the bill on another piece of paper for myself.

I know it is a hassle. I hope they make it easier and have the permits available.

Ivan


Posted by: High Lord Gomer---------------------

Well...Intellicast says that it should only be a 1/4", so it might not even be a problem. I'll call TNT (803-482-4759) around 11:00 and see how it is.


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

I'm outta here. See you guys at TNT around 11. :thumb:


Posted by: bscottr---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Truespode
If the permits aren't out I usually put money in the drop box wrapped in a piece of paper with a date and the serial number of the bill I put in. Then I put the serial number of the bill on another piece of paper for myself.

The gun range usually doesn't open until 1-2 p.m., if then. The ranger station is hit and miss to say the least. It can be a PITA. I'd do what Ivan described above or print out the application from the site, fill it out, paper clip your money to it and leave it in the truck. Not sure the drop box is still there as I haven't seen it.

Does anyone know if the Manchester trails have been groomed in the last month? Last time there the whoops were the worst I've ever seen, all 19 miles of them. A ride after that (5-6 weeks ago, I didn't make it) a friends' son on a KX80 would disappear between the whoops. :scream:

If it has been groomed, I'll see you there. Otherwise I'm going to Francis Marion (excellent ride BTW). I wait to hear something before deciding.


Posted by: linusb---------------------

James and Ivan: You guys still planning on Manchester Sunday? What time do you think you'll be there?


Posted by: James---------------------

We are. I am meeting Ivan at his house at 9 and I think he said we'll be there by noon. If you don't have his phone number I'll email it.


Posted by: linusb---------------------

That sounds good. I'll just plan on being there around noon myself then. Did you guys ride today?


Posted by: bscottr---------------------

Did you guys make it to Manchester? If so, how was it?


Posted by: truespode---------------------

We made. It was cold. It was raining. The trails were whooped out (but not the worst I've seen them) and it was a total BLAST!

Probably the most fun I've had in the woods since Parson's Mtn at the beginning of the year with you guys.

It was a workout and a half. I think I put James to sleep with my commentary on the way home

I am sore today but I did have a great time. We did the 2 mile loop once and the 9 mile loop twice. We did a little on the track but it was not in good shape.

Gomer also recruited a guy to be a part of SCORE and if things workout it is possible he will be helping to work on Manchester with some equipment he owns. I hope it works out.

Ivan


Posted by: bscottr---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Truespode
The trails were whooped out (but not the worst I've seen them)

Then you've seen it really bad! :o
Quote:
Gomer also recruited a guy to be a part of SCORE and if things workout it is possible he will be helping to work on Manchester with some equipment he owns. I hope it works out.]

There are 4-5 guys down here that given the proper equipment from SCORE would get those trails in shape. Who has SCORE's equipment now for trail grooming?

Glad you guys had a good time. We need to hook up soon!


Posted by: James---------------------

I've never seen it before and I'll admit, the first 2 mile trail was plain torture. The nine mile loop was very fun especially the second time around. It was all I could do to keep up with Ivan and Linus the first loop mostly because it takes several hours for me to wake up and I generally hate whoops anyway. But that last trip around the nine mile trail made it worth the trip. I was thinking I could hit upper 4th gear through one section and I was fast approaching Ivan (gave him some distance) and was going to make the pass....but chose not to considering I never knew which direction my back end was going. I would have loved to go another time or two, but I think we all burned too much energy on the track....which was Really whooped up.

Now I know there is a place for us to go when it is raining on Sundays.


Posted by: bscottr---------------------

It sounds as if maybe they have groomed the 9 mile loop since the last time any of our group has been there. Think I'll go take a look one day this week, can't ride it, but you can get to several sections from the road.

What are you guys up to Sunday?


Posted by: truespode---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by bscottr

There are 4-5 guys down here that given the proper equipment from SCORE would get those trails in shape. Who has SCORE's equipment now for trail grooming?


Getting people to work on the trail is not the issue. While the more willing to help is great the issue comes down more to the forestry commission there and funding. The equipment is in the possession of a few of the officers. I'm not sure who b/c someone else handles the equipment inventory.

One problem we have is that the SCORE equipment was bought with a grant and its use is covered in that grant. I do not know all of the specifics but I do know that we are at odds with the PRT right now b/c they will not allow us to put in for grant money to cover taxes on the equipment, gas, insurance, etc.

We have one guy who is really eager to help and all he'd like is to break even on the equipment useage (he owns his own equipment) but we are not sure that we will be able to accomplish that. It is more than fair but it is the political red tape that is being fought (and we have some good guys working to break through that red tape).

If you are interested in helping or know someone who is have them go to www.scohv.org and have them click on the Join SCORE link. Have them sign up for the e-mail list and all they have to do is ask to help and those in charge of the equipment will do what they can to help.

If you are not already a member of SCORE I ask that you become one. It is worth it just to increase our numbers and hopefully add a person or two to the letter writing and the workdays.

Ivan


Posted by: truespode---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by bscottr
What are you guys up to Sunday?


Me worky

I won't be riding again until Dec 7th and that will be in Alabama at Mill Creek.

Ivan


Posted by: bscottr---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Truespode
the issue comes down more to the forestry commission there and funding.

What gets me is this a State forest that we are trying to improve. All of the Federal lands in SC are much better than the State lands. :flame:
Quote:
Originally posted by Truespode
If you are interested in helping or know someone who is have them go to www.scohv.org and have them click on the Join SCORE link.

Will do. :thumb:


Posted by: James---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by bscottr
What are you guys up to Sunday?


I'm gonna guess that Linus and I will get out one day this weekend.


Posted by: truespode---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by bscottr

What gets me is this a State forest that we are trying to improve. All of the Federal lands in SC are much better than the State lands.


Multiply your frustration by 30 and add 2 years and you know how I feel

Glad to see you getting in with SCORE. We can use a lot more members like you!

Ivan


Posted by: truespode---------------------

Scott,

Go to Manchester and take a look at the track tonight or tomorrow... we got someone to work it up for us today. He is not a SCORE member (yet) or a SERMA Enduro Club member so we had to get special permission for him to work on it.

He is only interested in working on the track but if your guys are interested in working the trails get in touch with Johnny MCCoy or Jimmy Aycock (contact info should be on www.scohv.org) and they'll help you get what they can to work on the trails.

Become a member of SCORE first though.

I can't promise how much you will be able to get done but if you and your friends are serious we'll put forth the effort to work with you.

Ivan


Posted by: bscottr---------------------

Ivan,

It'll be Thursday afternoon before I can get by there (leaving town).  But I will check it out.  Thanks for the help and I'll get moving on the SCORE deal.  Hopefully we can get it shape soon.

Thanks Again,

Scott


Posted by: linusb---------------------

Hey James, I'd love to ride this weekend but we are moving so this weekend is out. Perhaps during the holiday weekend though?

Ivan, I checked out that SETRA site and that Harescramble in Sumter is on December 1st. The Enduro is in the new year...I think you was mildly confused. :confused:

I don't think I'm going to do it.


Posted by: truespode---------------------

I can't do it either. I'll driving home from Michigan that day.

BTW, I heard the guy scraped the MX track. He needs some help laying some saw dust down so if anyone has a 4x4 and wants to help they can show up at the Manchester trail head around 2pm today.

Thanks
Ivan


Posted by: James---------------------

Are you taking your bike to Michigan? And how close will you be to detroit?


Posted by: truespode---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by James
Are you taking your bike to Michigan? And how close will you be to detroit?


No. Just going up to visit family.

I'll be in Battle Creek.

Ivan



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