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Posted by: rickyd---------------------

This past saturday night, we al went to go see Def Leppard, they were good and LOUD!! I'm all for loud fast music, but what i couldn't beleive was this couple had about a 6month old baby at the show.. They had ear protection on the baby but still.. WHat was worse was that the people that take your tickets even let them bring in a baby.. SOme people are not deserving.. Had too vent this..
Rick



Posted by: mx547---------------------

what exactly is your complaint?



Posted by: rickyd---------------------

My complaint is that these parents weren't thinking that maybe the kid could possibly get ear damage, not too mention scare him/her..



Posted by: firecracker22---------------------

I agree, concerts and movies are no place for infants and very small children. They can't possibly enjoy or understand any part of the proceedings and only irritate those around them. When we went to watch Ultimate X at the Imax, a family with two kids ages like 1 and 3 were there. I mean, really. I had to listen to some kid hollering in my ear.



Posted by: viking20---------------------

Some people are just unbelieveably stupid!I mean they go to a 4 day rock festival,40000 people listening to cool music at deafening volume,and they bring a dog?!!!



Posted by: Senior KX Rider---------------------

moved



Posted by: Jaybird---------------------

I can see the problem with bringing a crying kid into a theatre, but to a concert? Please.
You said the kid had ear protection, yes?
It burns my hide to hear folks blast other parents.
Who the hell are you to decide who is deverving and who is not?
I suggest you look for cracks in your own pavement.



Posted by: Clutch---------------------

Stupid. They probably spent all their money on tickets, and forgot to budget for a babysitter. It would totally ruin the show for me if I had to watch a kid being subjected to that. Just because ear protection is being used doesn't mean a baby's ultra-sensitive ears are being protected ENOUGH. For you "don't tell me how to raise my kid" type of people...it's not being self-righteous, it's about standing up for an infant that has no say over whether his or her hearing is destroyed. What possible reason does a baby have for being at a rock concert? It's certainly not to be lullabyed to sleep. If you can't find a babysitter...sell your tickets and STAY HOME.



Posted by: Tony Eeds---------------------

Rock ???? Didn't they quit making rock music in the '70s? 

Jay - I guess I would want to listen to you in a theatre!   



Posted by: Jaybird---------------------

Clutch, you obviously are the foremost expert on such matters. You should be a guest star on Dr. Phil.
Too much these days we have folks that are all "righteous" and think they need to "stand up" for other people and things that they have no idea about, nor sense enough to realise they are out of their own territory. I'd be willing to bet money that those of you who have decided how folks should raise kids also advocate the tactics of Global Warmers and PETA. Those two groups are also less than adequately informed ingnoramous'.

BTW..."Ultra-sensitive" as in like "Spidy Sense"? Wow, if I would have know this fact, I would have tried to contract my kids out to the military or something. Sure wish I knew at what point that kids loose this "Ulta-sensative" hearing, cause being the father of four I happen to know that at a certain age they loose all sense of hearing, well "listening" anyway.

Tony, my kids won't go to the movies with me. They are way too embarrased by the snoring!



Posted by: WoodsRider---------------------

I'm pretty sure there's a few people out here who were at the original Woodstock... in diapers.

And no, I wasn't one of them.

Although I haven't taken my son to a concert, he has been to a Major League Baseball game and a Fourth of July Fireworks show. Neither seemed to bother him too much since he mostly slept. I also enjoy the look we get, :silly:, when someone gets on a plane and discovers they're seated in the same row as a baby. It's amazing how fast they spring for that empty seat once the door closes. :scream:



Posted by: MikeT---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by rickyd
My complaint is that these parents weren't thinking that maybe the kid could possibly get ear damage

But.......
Quote:
Originally posted by rickyd
They had ear protection on the baby but still..
So I guess they did think about it. I probably wouldn't have brought my infant there just because I could enjoy a concert more without them. I will say this, at six months, with ear protection, the droning thumping sound the kid heard probably put him to sleep.



Posted by: Green Horn---------------------

I totally agree with rickyd. No need to bring a baby to a concert. Here's another one for you... I work nights, so alot of times I go to "lunch" at 1am in the morning. I've been to restuarants at that hour and have seen babies/ small children there. I have almost wanted to go up to the parents and ask what's wrong with them. Put your kid to bed, or atleast take them home. Granted it might be that the kid couldn't sleep, but I don't think they need to be "out" at those kinds of hours.

There have been times when my wife wanted to come and meet me for "lunch", but we're not the types to drag our 3 yr old around at all hours of the night.



Posted by: MikeT---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Jaybird
I suggest you look for cracks in your own pavement.
Jaybird, Man, that is a great line! I love it. Got to write that one down.



Posted by: MikeT---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Jaybird
I'd be willing to bet money that those of you who have decided how folks should raise kids also advocate the tactics of Global Warmers and PETA. Those two groups are also less than adequately informed ingnoramous'.
Jay I'm loving ya bud! Great stuff, I'm "right" with you.



Posted by: MikeT---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Green Horn
Here's another one for you... I work nights, so alot of times I go to "lunch" at 1am in the morning. I've been to restuarants at that hour and have seen babies/ small children there. I have almost wanted to go up to the parents and ask what's wrong with them. Put your kid to bed, or atleast take them home.
I got one for ya. When I was a kid I used to have pretty bad asthma. Back then they didn't have the nice medications they have today, plus even with todays meds, you still don't get great relief sometimes. Anyway, my Mom would put me in the car and take me for rides with the windows open at 1am or what ever time it happened. The cool air helped me breathe a little easier and we usually ended up at Mr. Doughnut. Until I was definately breathing easier. No science here, it was just what she did and I'm glad she did it.



Posted by: Green Horn---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by MikeT
I got one for ya. When I was a kid I used to have pretty bad asthma. Back then they didn't have the nice medications they have today, plus even with todays meds, you still don't get great relief sometimes. Anyway, my Mom would put me in the car and take me for rides with the windows open at 1am or what ever time it happened. The cool air helped me breathe a little easier and we usually ended up at Mr. Doughnut. Until I was definately breathing easier. No science here, it was just what she did and I'm glad she did it.


Touche! And I'll agree that sometimes a parent needs to do things like this. I've also seen though (which is what I am mainly referring to) where a group of adults are out at a restaurant having a good time. And right there next to them is an infant carrier with a kid screamin' away. I am not so naive as to realize that there are situations (like you Mike) where there is a GOOD reason why a parent is doing what they're doing.

Alright, I am going to take Jaybird's advice and stare at my own crack for a little while. :confused:



Posted by: MikeT---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Green Horn
I've also seen though (which is what I am mainly referring to) where a group of adults are out at a restaurant having a good time. And right there next to them is an infant carrier with a kid screamin' away.
Bad situation there. Agreed.



Posted by: Neil Wig---------------------

This is a quick question for ya....How do you suppose your parrents would have reacted to a stranger offering "advice" on how to raise their children? I'm sure the PC police would have lost their mind if they would have seen my cousins and I pushing bush when we were 10~12 yrs old...driving grain truck....or heaven forbid...riding a dirt bike. For as pissy as everyone on this site gets when some moron criticizes our choice to ride bikes, or permit our children to ride bikes, one would think we would have the sense to let parrents be parrents. Was the baby freaked out, crying, wide-eyed? Babies don't hide fear....was he/she screeming and flailing? No? Then mind your own damn busness.



Posted by: Green Horn---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Neil Wig
Then mind your own damn busness.


Which is why I never confront anyone about it. I do realize that I have my own opinions (as I've stated) on what's right and wrong, but that doesn't mean EVERYONE has to agree with me. For what it's worth, I am going to let it go since it isn't going to get anyone anywhere.

[I had a whole big reply typed up, but it ain't worth it. No sense in fanning the flame.]



Posted by: mx547---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Green Horn
we're not the types to drag our 3 yr old around at all hours of the night.


and i am.

i take my kids with me almost everywhere i go. someone please call the government to come take my kids away.



Posted by: gwcrim---------------------

Geeze RickyD, I suppose you think the gov't should do something about us heathens who let our 5 yr old kids ride minibikes too!

My pregnant wife an I were out to dinner Friday night and she was enjoying a virgin daquiri. When she left for one of her frequent restroom breaks, an older gentleman (!) came over to our table and basically said, 'if there's alcohol in that DON'T let her have anymore.' Now I'm pretty level headed but this pi$$ed me off! And I showed it. He became appologetic, but still. We weren't dressed like slobs or acting like idiots and this guy had the nerve..........

Live and let live. If it's not your kid, body, property please keep your unwanted opinions to yourself!



Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

So the kid grows up and feels compelled to watch a bunch of 40-something has-beens make really awful music. What's the problem?

Here, watch MY crack.



Posted by: WoodsRider---------------------

"Screwed up" kids are raised by "perfect parents" every day!



Posted by: Jaybird---------------------

Perhaps parents that work second shift will take their young babies places at hours other than what others think is appropriate. Big stinkin' deal. It's none of anyones business.
That's half the problem with our society today...way too many self-righteous do-gooders sticking their nose in places it has no business being.
Public fools...err..I mean schools come to mind here.



Posted by: Tod---------------------

Quote:
They had ear protection on the baby but still..


Don't cut it. Even if you knock 15 db off a 120 db show, it's still too loud for a baby. Additionally the ears are only part of it, the pounding messes with your inards.


When I owned a stage lighting company, I used to have staff complain at punk shows like Iggy Pop (124 db @ 85 ft) that they could feel their internal organs move.


If the baby didn't appear to mind, maybe it was already deaf?
As many of you said it isn't any of your business, but if I was producing the event I wouldn't want the legal or moral liability.

As someone who's been to over a thousand concerts, it seems just plain pathatic that some people fail to recognize that for a number of reasons, that that enviroment is inappropriate for babies.



Posted by: mx547---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Tod


that that enviroment is inappropriate for babies.


the same arguement could be made regarding children and dirt bikes, where there is a substantial risk of injury or death. where does one draw the line?



Posted by: ZEKEDAWG---------------------

Hank Williams Jr said it best " mind your own business and you won't be minding mine".



Posted by: Lew---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Jaybird
That's half the problem with our society today...way too many self-righteous do-gooders sticking their nose in places it has no business being.
Public fools...err..I mean schools come to mind here.


 

I could not agree more! 

Jaybird - I think that kids lose their super spidy sense hearing the first day you ask them to take out the trash :scream:

Lew



Posted by: wayneg---------------------

Wow - I even have problems getting my kids to sit on Santa's knee without a lot of tears and screaming. Pretty weird that its their favourite time of year with the presents and stuff - a real pity they're both scared to death of poor old Santa!



Posted by: jharmon---------------------

I know a couple that brought their new borne son to a bar on the way home from the hospital. The kid was only 2 days old (if that) and they brought to a load, smokey bar.

I guess we know the path this kid is headed down already.

Not only did they have their newborn, but they had another kid running around with a huge Tonka Toy truck in the bar. Don't get me wrong. I like Tonka Toys, but the last thing I want to see at a bar, when I'm trying to relax is some little kid crying his eyes out, because some accidentally dropped a beer or cigarette on him.

Some parents shouldn't be parents



Posted by: Offroadr---------------------

6 month olds don't ride dirtbikes. Alot of physical development happens between 6mo and 6 years.

Get real



Posted by: bclapham---------------------

i think the main flame here is that fact they took this kid to a Def Leppard concert! I mean the Ozz fest yeah, but "The Lep". Being british, most of us are a bit embarrassed on some of the crap bands we come up with, such as the Lep and the Spice Girls etc. but it always warms our cockles when we manage to export it to the US! :thumb:

btw. i am not talking of those 4 young Liverpudlians or those lads from the south of england that came over here and showed you guys what rock and roll was all about during the 60's!



Posted by: Clutch---------------------

**I'd be willing to bet money that those of you who have decided how folks should raise kids also advocate the tactics of Global Warmers and PETA. Those two groups are also less than adequately informed ingnoramous'.**

Dang Jaybird, I don't know where all the mean-spiritedness is coming from, just because my opinion is different doesn't mean I'm an ignoramus, nor a tree-hugger. Dr. Phil has not left any messages on my voice mail asking to be on his show. I'm an average Joe, and I'm a member of the Blue Ribbon Coalition.

It is obvious that the quickest way to get someone riled up is to criticize their parenting. My question for everyone then is: how far is too far when it comes to minding your own business and letting other parents do their own thing? For example, what about the Indiana mom that was caught on tape by a parking lot security camera beating her daughter back in September? How many of you would have turned a blind eye and said "well, I'm not one to judge..." and just drive off? Me, I would rather take verbal abuse from an enraged parent and have them take a swing at me instead of having to watch them hit the little kid instead, and if that makes me a nosy do-gooder, then so be it.



Posted by: Tod---------------------

Quote:
the same arguement could be made regarding children and dirt bikes, where there is a substantial risk of injury or death. where does one draw the line?


I think people can do whatever and it's really none of my business, but that doesn't mean I can't think that they are idiots.

The comparison to dirt bikes works quite well. It's no less stupid to take a baby to a metal concert than it is to send it off acrossed the parking lot on a CR500.



Posted by: gwcrim---------------------

Here's a good one: Last Friday my 7 month pregnant wife and I were out to a nice restaurant for dinner. While waiting we ordered drinks; she a virgin daquiri, I a beer. At one point she left for the little gals room and an older guy in a nearby booth came to our table.

Basically he demanded: 'If there's any alcohol in that don't let her have another drink.'

I'm pretty laid back, but GEEZE! I said "NO, there isn't" in a rather rude voice. He appologized and said he was an ex-bartender. Well geee.... I guess he'd never heard of a VIRGIN drink? I basically ignored the rest of his schpeel.

It's one thing to be a good person and it's another to be presumptuous and offending.

Are we really sure that the child in the original situation was 6 months old? Heck, given the nature of people these days it could have been a doll and they were doing this to see how people would react.

At the end of the day, if it ain't your kid or it ain't breaking the law, it ain't your bizzness.



Posted by: whyzee---------------------

that that enviroment is inappropriate for babies.
Quote:
Originally posted by mx547
the same arguement could be made regarding children and dirt bikes, where there is a substantial risk of injury or death. where does one draw the line?

Ya draw the line with choice. An infant (6month old baby at the show) does not have any choice regarding his presence. A young child riding dirt bikes does, if he develops a fear and or dislike of the sport, then he should be able to walk away. Too often though some A-hole parent though is screaming at the kid whom wants to quit about the investment in bike, gear, ... THAT is crossing the line. Ok, maybe not too often, but I have seen it several times.

I’m by no means a liberal in my views, but I hate to see a child mistreated in any way. Yea, it's none of my business, but I still hate to see it.



Posted by: rickyd---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Jaybird
[ .
Too much these days we have folks that are all "righteous" and think they need to "stand up" for other people and things that they have no idea about, nor sense enough to realise they are out of their own territory. I'd be willing to bet money that those of you who have decided how folks should raise kids also advocate the tactics of Global Warmers and PETA. Those two groups are also less than adequately informed ingnoramous'.



]

I didn't say anything too the parents, neither did the guy a few seats away from them smoking a joint..

Jaybird, this concert was definately loud, loud enough that you could feel the sound, this baby had this look of fright on his face that was unreal..
Global warmers and Peta, totally different situation..
Now let me ask you this, about standing up for other people, if i were too witness say a little old lady getting mugged, should i turn the other cheek?? If i saw a guy all doped up walking don my street w/a ak47, should i not do nothing??
BTW, i had a 10 & 13 year old in the group at the show.. Both these kids ride MX but at their choice..



Posted by: bclapham---------------------

"and i want, and need, animal" with lyrics like that, maybe "The Lep" should be arrested for crimes against humanity?



Posted by: rickyd---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by gwcrim
Geeze RickyD, I suppose you think the gov't should do something about us heathens who let our 5 yr old kids ride minibikes too!

Live and let live. If it's not your kid, body, property please keep your unwanted opinions to yourself!


RIding mini bikes and a rock show is totally different in my opinion..



Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

Why is it that people have to take a test before they can drive a car, but any moron can reproduce at will or accidentally?

Stupid parents generally raise stupid children. That's why I don't have any. It's genetic. You can't fight it. I was in Wally World recently and had the pleasure of watching a teen call his mother a 'stupid b**ch' because she wouldn't let him drive. Mom just ignored him and kept shopping. I really wanted to smack the little loser, but it wasn't MY business.

Who makes the rules?



Posted by: rickyd---------------------

I know that if i ever said that too my Mom, i think my Dad put me in my place!!



Posted by: whyzee---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Julius Pleaser
Stupid parents generally raise stupid children. That's why I don't have any. It's genetic. You can't fight it.

Naw, JP, fat daughter and lil96 are two great kids, well behaved and polite... just goes to prove that it's not generic, ya see I'm amphibious, I can type with my left index finger or my right pinky. Now you try that. :silly:



Posted by: Jamir---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by firecracker22
I agree, concerts and movies are no place for infants and very small children. They can't possibly enjoy or understand any part of the proceedings and only irritate those around them. When we went to watch Ultimate X at the Imax, a family with two kids ages like 1 and 3 were there. I mean, really. I had to listen to some kid hollering in my ear.



That is funny. My son is two and his first movie was this summer.....Ultimate X. He loved it. He is all about that stuff and he sat there the whole time in total aw! As far as loud music. He has some ear muffs that are used for shooting guns....he does not shoot guns though. But he puts those on and stand in front of my drums jamming like James Friggin Hetfield! I do get angry though when I see little kids at concerts. Or even worse, I pregnant mom toking it up like Tommy Friggin Chong. Then they wonder why their kids turn out like me!



Posted by: bclapham---------------------

"poor some sugar on me, because i am hot, sticky, sweet"

mindless, senseless torture!



Posted by: rickyd---------------------

Oh, almost forgot, couldn't even tell if the baby was crying or not, couldnt hear if it was..



Posted by: bclapham---------------------

maybe the baby was crying out because it didnt like "The Lep"?



Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

WHAT?

Bruce, you're killin' me. All my Def lovin' buddies used to make fun of me because I liked the Clash. Now they make fun of me for other reasons.

I heard a song a couple of years ago called "Drummer for Def Leppard's Only Got One Arm". Honest! I'm not making it up. Gotta prop the guy for the comeback though.



Posted by: BSWIFT---------------------

I'm not one to want or desire government intervention in the upbringing of children.  Other than death, a person's hearing is a one shot deal.  If you damage your hearing, thats it, period.  The cost is permenant and it is not limited to a child at a rock concert.  The work place is the leading cause of hearing lose.  Regulations designed to protect workers really only helps limit the liability of an employer when a workers hearing is damaged. 
Owning a new four stroke, I've concerned about the noise, not just because of people wanting to shut down riding areas but more so about my own hearing.  Sure I like the deep rumble but I am acutely aware of the danger the sound produces with continued exposure. 
I have slight low frequency hearing lose from playing the bass guitar for many years.  I pay a bit more attention to loud sound and hope to not further damage my hearing.  If people choose to put 3000Watss of sound into a Honda Civic and rattle the bolts loose with their kids in the front seat, fine.  We will all pay for the deffness in the years to come.  However, I do NOT want the government to tell them they can't listen to lound music anymore than I want the to NOT let me ride my four stroke thumper.



Posted by: rickyd---------------------

The Lep was the only "Hair Band" i listened too HAHAHA I was more into Iron Maiden, Mettelica, Pantera etc..
I missed out on seeing the Clash by two days, they opend up for The Who on a saturday and i had tix for mondays show



Posted by: bclapham---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by BSWIFT
If you damage your hearing, thats it, period. 


what, hey, speak up man, i cant hear you!



Posted by: BSWIFT---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by bclapham


what, hey, speak up man, i cant hear you!


[size=3]NEED I SAY MORE![/size]



Posted by: mx547---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Julius Pleaser


All my Def lovin' buddies used to make fun of me because I liked the Clash.


i never was into def but i still listen to the clash. london calling is one of the best. everyone else at work likes def but hates the clash, except the 18 year-old part time worker, go figure.



Posted by: bclapham---------------------

maybe we could get the Lep to headline DW03? i am sure i can stow away some cabages, eggs and tomatos that will be nice and rotten by then.

Nuff respect for the Clash though....there was a rumour they were going to do some songs at this years MXDN, that would have been cool, but then i suppose just having the MXDN would have been cool!



Posted by: GETMETOCA---------------------

This thread is killin' me. First it starts to actually represent the Old Flame Forum (yeah!!!) and then it turns into an old "Who Likes It Hard" thread or maybe just the "80's Hair Band" thread. Either way, thanks for the memories...



Posted by: firecracker22---------------------

Quit baggin' on Def Leppard . . . they were my first ever concert at the Gorge when I was 14!! (How's that for parenting, no, my parents did NOT know where I was) Ugly Kid Joe opened. It was an interesting weekend . . .



Posted by: bclapham---------------------

thats funny FC, i had you down for a Spandau Balley fan.....ba bappa ba ba, we no this much is truuuuuuuuueeeee!



Posted by: firecracker22---------------------

???



Posted by: Tony Eeds---------------------

Darn, I feel old :whiner:

I have never heard of Clash until this thread.

 



Posted by: Tod---------------------

Quote:
never heard of Clash


They started up in the late seventies.
That'll should help ya feel even older



Posted by: Green Horn---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by bclapham
maybe we could get the Lep to headline DW03


That would be a blast! I wonder if Okie has any connections to the "has been" '80's rock bands.



Posted by: jboomer---------------------

Ya know, now that you mentioned it, I "inherited" a cassette tape from my dad, called Alda Nova. You could probably find them on a "So what happened to them?" TV show. My first concert: Tesla and Firehouse in Fayetteville, NC. Awesome!



Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by firecracker22
???
Spandau Ballet. They were part of the Brit-Pop invasion of the early 80s. They sounded just like Blanc Mange, Heaven 17, and early Depeche Mode/Yaz.

Surely you remember them. :thumb:



Posted by: WoodsRider---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by jboomer
... I "inherited" a cassette tape from my dad, called Alda Nova.

Life is just a fantasy! That tune rocked. It's really amazing how many one-hit wonders there have been. And the list just keeps growing, and growing, and growing...

I had a bunch of old albums, that's what we called 'em back in my day, we were getting rid of at a garage sale. This kid that lived down the street, who was about 14 at the time, didn't know what they were. I sure felt old!



Posted by: WoodsRider---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by firecracker22
... they were my first ever concert at the Gorge...

My college roommate and I used to work concert security at the Gorge in George. When the Grateful Dead played there I'd never seen so many granolas and broken down VW's in one place. I also couldn't stop laughing for a week.

The Steve Miller Band had these 40-year-old groupies that would have made a great anti-drug poster. "This is your body after 25-years of chemical dependancy!" :scream: They kept flashing us trying to get back stage. It was all I could do to keep from hurling up lunch.



Posted by: firecracker22---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Julius Pleaser
Spandau Ballet. They were part of the Brit-Pop invasion of the early 80s. They sounded just like Blanc Mange, Heaven 17, and early Depeche Mode/Yaz.

Surely you remember them. :thumb:


Depeche Mode is the only one of those I remember . . . I was learning how to ride a bike without training wheels in the early 80s.

Tesla and Firehouse!! That would have rocked! I was all about Tesla in 8th grade.

Anybody remember Europe? I think this has come up before. Talk about a one-hit wonder . . . my friend Shekenah and I were their biggest (only?) fans in 6th and 7th grade.



Posted by: IRISHCOFFEE---------------------

actually its europa. i have their claim to fame on a mixture tape with other bands. i am 57 and still love to play it on the ride home after a great day on the trails.



Posted by: rickyd---------------------

I think i remeber Europe, didn't they sing that song "The final countdown"?? I got too see Tesla a few times, they openend for Y&T/Iron Maiden then they opend for Def Leppard.. Don't remember FIrehouse though..



Posted by: firecracker22---------------------

I remember Firehouse . . . but I can't think of any of their songs.



Posted by: mx547---------------------

i just found a cassette of europe "the final countdown." i never was really into hair band music, it's a tape that someone gave me several years ago. i'll give it a listen.



Posted by: jboomer---------------------

Firehouse sang that song "Love of a Lifetime" -- Finally found the love of a lifetime....a love to last the whole night through!

And another one called "All she wrote"

They really weren't bad in concert, and Tesla rocked!



Posted by: wayneg---------------------

You think thats sad - we're still getting that music on most of the radio stations. We seem to have 'C'mon Eileen' by Dexys Midnight Runners once every hour, and even had a "Duran Duran" song on about a hour ago. Maybe someone jinxed my car radio...............Maybe I should immigrate somewhere else :-(



Posted by: firecracker22---------------------

You poor thing . . .



Posted by: rickyd---------------------

I wish the radio stations here would just play music and not have all the talk shows and crank calls..

Still don't remember FireHouse..Hmmm Heres one for ya, ZEBRA.. ANybody remember them??HAHA



Posted by: yzguy15---------------------

Clash? Were they having to go up against somebody? Firehouse? [size=2]Spandau Ballet? Brit-Pop invasion of the early 80s? What is all this gibberish of which you speak? Man yall are old... FC, if it makes you feel any better, I wasn't taking the training wheels off my bike (and yzinger) until the LATE 80's. Muahhaahhahaahh (some sort of evil laugh). Actually my first concert was Blink 182 and Green Day, but my parents did know where I was...[/size]



Posted by: WoodsRider---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by rickyd
Heres one for ya, ZEBRA.. ANybody remember them??HAHA

Yes, unfortunatley



Posted by: Rooster---------------------

 Aggggghhhhhhh! Def Lep? Yeah I remember that, supposed to be the second coming of Led Zep...hah! Dream on. Europe? Another bunch of pretty boys with zero talent. The 80's was a decade of one hit wonders, most of which are now dropping fries at McDondalds.

Let's think back.....

Dokken, Warrant, Kindom Come, Bullet Boyz, Queensryche, Slaughter, Steelhart, Mr. Big, Motley Crue, Great White, Poison, Cinderella, Twisted Sister, Quiet Riot, Lynch Mob, Faster ***** cat, Tora Tora Tora, Ratt, Skid Row, Winger, White Snake, Bon Jovi, Britny Fox.......

And yes, I have most of those CD's ....somewhere.....and I saw just about every one of them in concert. I can hear too! I used earplugs.

Anyone care to talk about the bands that actually prevailed that era?



Posted by: gwcrim---------------------

Quote:
And yes, I have most of those CD's ....


CDs? Is there any way to record them onto 8 tracks?



Posted by: bclapham---------------------

this was one of my faourites from this time, any takers?

I was happy in the haze of a drunken hour
But heaven knows I'm miserable now

I was looking for a job, and then I found a job
And heaven knows I'm miserable now


In my life
Why do I give valuable time
To people who don't care if I live or die ?


Two lovers entwined pass me by
And heaven knows I'm miserable now


I was looking for a job, and then I found a job
And heaven knows I'm miserable now


In my life
Oh, why do I give valuable time
To people who don't care if I live or die ?


What she asked of me at the end of the day
Caligula would have blushed


"You've been in the house too long" she said
And I (naturally) fled


In my life
Why do I smile
At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye ?


I was happy in the haze of a drunken hour
But heaven knows I'm miserable now


"You've been in the house too long" she said
And I (naturally) fled


In my life
Why do I give valuable time
To people who don't care if I live or die ?



Posted by: Lorin---------------------

I have all but two of the cd's that Rooster mentioned above as well as Zebra's cd. I also own 4 of the Europe albums and 3 Firehouse albums. I guess I am still stuck in the 80's. The last concert I went to was 3 months ago at the fair to see: Eddie Money, Survivor, and Loverboy. Booyahhh! I must be getting old. FWIW, I seem to have a bunch of Bon Jovi and Def Leppard as well. Take your shot! I looked at some cd's that I have here at work to listen to: Tesla, Eric Clapton, U2, Sheryl Crow, and Styx (Paradise Theatre). Obviously, there isnt any hope left for me.



Posted by: jboomer---------------------

My last concert: Doobie Brothers, Big Bad Bubba, and Lynyrd Skynyrd (Is that even how you spell it?). Lot's of adult beverages drank listening to them!



Posted by: Rooster---------------------

Holy Crap! Doobie, Bubba And Skynyrd (sp?) all in one night? Now that's a mix!!!

I forgot about Skynyrd (sp?) and Molly Hatchet, 38 Special.....but they didn't really fall into the Big Hair category, more of a southern fried rock. Not that there's anything bad about that, I have all those CD's too!

 

 



Posted by: WoodsRider---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by RoosteR13
Queensryche

They may have been a one-hit wonder in your book with Jet City Woman, but these guys were a solid fixture in the Seattle music scene long before groups like Mother Love Bone, Pearl Jam, Sound Garden or Nirvana. Back in high school I used fake I.D. to get in the Ballard Firehouse and Rock Hard Cafe and see Queensryche play. to a packed house. I heard they've got a new album (yes, I still call them albums) coming out and the former lead singer may rejoin the band.

To group them in with an 80's hair band is a total shame.



Posted by: Rooster---------------------

Woods, don't get your big hair in a knot .

I was merely reminiscing about the bands that were hot during that era. I'm sure that for each of the bands listed there is someone that will want to defend them. I didn't say they sucked or were bad, you missed the second paragraph......I have all those CD's, (that translates: I bought them well into the nineties when my tapes finally wore out) along with greatest hit editions released in the nineties of some of them.

Didn't mean to offend you, Queensryche rocks. Jet City woman is, by no means, an example of the talent in that band. Simply a mainstream chart maker.



Posted by: Offroadr---------------------

Wow did this thead take a turn!

Much better subject! 

Not sure if this was answered but one of the Firehouse songs was 'The love of a lifetime'

I think.... been awhile

Queensryche was/is a great group for sure not a hairband. 

RoosteR:  good list, its funny how many threads have been on DRN regarding hair bands and music.

Reminds me that I want to get a Fastway CD 

 

 



Posted by: jboomer---------------------

Something about riding dirtbikes and liking white trash bands....you'd never guess I was a hick from Arkansas! **big eye roll**



Posted by: Tod---------------------

Quote:
Queensryche rocks

Bellvue posers

Seattle had lots of better bands during the 80's:

Jitters
Lonesome City Kings
Cowboys
Visible Targets
Dynamic Logs
Red Dress
Moberlys
Mondo Vita
Annie Rose and the Thrillers




Posted by: WoodsRider---------------------

I used to park cars with the drummer in Cowboys. He definitely didn't fit the stereotypes I had of a musician in a rock band.

BTW - That's Bellevue



Posted by: Tod---------------------

Quote:
drummer in Cowboys


Mark Borden or the other one?



Posted by: WoodsRider---------------------

That name doesn't ring a bell. Could've been the other guy but I'm not sure. '85 sure was along time ago.



Posted by: Kawidude---------------------

Aww, c'mon...Empire was a pretty solid album.

And yes, Tesla was one of the coolest shows I remember seeing. I loved the way they didn't have a big opening like most shows. The stage lights were up and they just sort of strolled out on the stage, waved at everyone and started rocking. They were great.

As far as combo concerts, the biggest one I can remember attending was in the early 90's. I saw the Steve Miller Band, Eric Johnson, Extreme and ZZTop together in a single afternoon.

I've seen Van Halen 4 times (with Hagar) and they're always great. Metallica was an awesome show , until people started throwing fireworks into the crowd from the seats in back (hard to enjoy a show when you're looking over your shoulder).

The best show I've ever seen was a cover group called Lynyrd Skynhead. The front man was Zakk Wylde (the guitarist from Ozzy's band). They played tons of old Skynyrd and ZZTop songs. It was great to see them in a really small venue.



Posted by: wayneg---------------------

Stop it!! You're making me want to go and spend money on some of this music................ARRGGGH! I'm going to have to review what I ask Santa for Xmas........... Tie downs, CD, Gloves,CD, total coverage body armour, CD, pain relief, CD, skill injection, CD...............

No I will be firm and concentrate on the dirt bike stuff.



Posted by: Offroadr---------------------

Zakk Wylde is a great guitarist.   I wondered what became of him.



Posted by: jboomer---------------------

I'd heard he started up a new band, but can't for the life of me remember any specifics.



Posted by: rickyd---------------------

I think the best show i saw was WHite Zombie for $5 w/only about 100 people in the crowd

Seen PANTERA a bunch, their cool but the best onstage was Stone Temple Pilots



Posted by: firecracker22---------------------

I definitely wouldn't put Tesla and Queensryche in the same category as Poison, etc. Don't get me wrong, I still like them all . . . laugh all you want but "Living on a Prayer" brings back good memories of middle school! We listened to everything and I still do. Big Hair Rock, harder rock, old and new; everything from Cinderella and Whitesnake to Zombie and Godsmack and Disturbed.

I think what I liked about the hair bands, and DON'T like about grunge--FLAME AWAY but I HATE Nirvana!!!!--is the energy. Nirvana is all about the drug-ridden self-centered suicidal depression that Kurt lived in, while butt rock was all about drug-ridden partying. I like almost anything with energy and drive to it.



Posted by: mx547---------------------

i loved grunge and i'm old.



Posted by: BigBore---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by jboomer
I'd heard he started up a new band, but can't for the life of me remember any specifics.


Black Label Society.



Posted by: rickyd---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by firecracker22
I definitely wouldn't put Tesla and Queensryche in the same category as Poison, etc.

I saw Poison, they opened for a band called LoudNess (anybody remember??HAHA) I had never heard of htem at the time, but what was funny was my girlfreind at the time was mad cause they did their makeup better than she did HAHA
I can understand your point about Nirvana, what i liked about them was that they kinda brought back the "artist" in music.. I remember for awhile everybody was putting out power ballads

Ok, i need too go find Operation MindCrime



Posted by: Tod---------------------

Quote:
HATE Nirvana


Cobane and Co. sucked. Bad people to be around. We picked him as a future deadguy first time I met him. Grunge = punk + herion. It was a foul work environment. Gimme the Ramones, Devo, Iggy Pop, DOA anyday. Even the Butthole Surfers, Husker Du, Soundgarden, Sonic Youth, Dead Kennedys and that bunch were lively and fun, not just whiners waiting to O.D.

Of course, if good food, good (well, um) refreshments and nice people make a long day of hard work (stage lighting co. owner) fun and worthwhile, you can't beat the Grateful Dead and their relate splinter bands.




Posted by: tx246---------------------

back to the original thread..................does that mean the kids at nascar races, mx races, or any kind of motorsports is wrong? if the kid had hearing protection and wasnt making a fuss, why worry? ive seen kids sleeping at the local dirttrack pretty much every sat night. my only beef is when your kid is doing something to curtail the activities of adults around the kid.....provided the atmosphere is predominately adult. dont expect my language to change because you brought your kid to a bar and dont expect any slack from me if your kid is running around a rated R movie. if it is a G movie i kinda expect kids and dont have a prob with it.


swift, what about my hearing? we have to ride with that loud beast. lol. im telling you i wish my cr sounded like a kdx. there would be lots less trouble. my ears would thank me.

heck my last street bike still has the stock exhaust on it...........im getting old or is that wise? kinda nice to rip down the block and nobody look up.



Posted by: rickyd---------------------

During the show, the kid had this look on its face and you could tell it was uncomfortable.. Only type of racing i can think of that is as loud as this concert was is a NHRA race.. Im all for kids at races/racing/riding etc.. But an infant??



Posted by: SuzookKING---------------------

what happened to the day you could parent your kid without everyone wanting in on the action. When I was about 12 we were in a friend's car (his mom was driving) and she kept telling him to be quiet, he kept on doing whatever it was, she warned him and said this is it NO MORE, he slipped and WHAM it was over, she pulled to the side of the road, whipped him outta the car, yanked his britches to his knees and spanked his bare butt on the side of the road. I was laughing in the back set till I got a warning, hell I know when to shut the *&#$ up, my pants & hind end remained intact. I believe in the right to spank your child, to an extent, beating till they bleed is not acceptable (Even though my dad threatened it to me when I was young, but he never carried it out) a sharp whack on the @$$ to get their attention is fine, heck there are times when I would probably wanna smack your kids butt (heck if I wanna smack him and you are there NOT smacking him, I wanna smack you as well). Every situation is different, and approach all situations with open eyes (the other parent may be lurking outta view)

Intervention should be a last resort, and for life threatening
*Michael Jackson holding an infant over a balcony, smack that dude or whatever in the head...twice......
situations (or very close to it) at the very least make sure you have enough evidence on your side for any lawsuit/criminal case that might develop due to your butting in.

I have 2 kids an 11 yr old & 9 month old, and my Father & Mother taught me how to raise those wretched creatures that you can love and wanna kill in the same breath. :scream:


end of rant



Posted by: Moose95---------------------

[QUOTE]Originally posted by bclapham
[B]this was one of my faourites from this time, any takers?

I was happy in the haze of a drunken hour
But heaven knows I'm miserable now

I was looking for a job, and then I found a job
And heaven knows I'm miserable now 


-Smiths.  Sorry B, I found this thread a little late.  Here's a question for you, do you think Morrisey is better solo?



Posted by: Chief---------------------

I have 2 children, 3 and 6. If they act up in public I'm not shy or ashamed about threatening them with a spanking, although at this point, it doesn't have to get that point usually. It is a last resort and I think the older they get, the less it should be used. Time out works ok or taking away priveliges.

As far as the noise goes, this sounds a little funny, but I hate it. If I expect to be at a bar or concert, I bring earplugs. same thing at work. It's amazing how much better I can hear people talk or music (even when they don't think I can) . I find myself a lot more relaxed with the noise filter. Also use them when I cut the grass or use the snowblower. I hate the fuzziness or ringing in my ears if I don't use them.

I don't usually need them when I'm riding, I guess the helmet helps. One exception was being stuck behind PapaKeith at Paragon. Between the noise and smoke, his starting ritual for that old(er) 500 was life-threatening

Chief



Posted by: Chief---------------------

The Co. I work for just purchased satellite radio programming. All I can say is 'What a relief!!!!!' Never have to hear the same song 4 times every hour. To me it's my only gripe on radio stations and an insult to intelligence.




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