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Results of first 250 AMA SX *HUGE SPOILER!!!*

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Posted by: WideOpen---------------------

250 MAIN

1- 22 Reed, C. YAM
2- 4 Carmichael, R. HON
3- 15 Ferry, T. YAM
4- 12 Vuillemin, D. YAM
5- 103 Tortelli, S. SUZ
6- 24 Fonseca, E. HON
7- 37 Clark, R. YAM
8- 11 Lusk, E. KAW
9- 28 Voss, H. YAM
10- 21 Roncada, S. SUZ
11- 35 Johnson, K. YAM
12- 52 Tedesco, I. YAM
13- 55 Boniface, S. KTM
14- 10 Ward, L. HON
15- 106 Hurley, D. SUZ


Posted by: Big Tuna---------------------

TP and The Rock????


Posted by: SirThumper---------------------

Crashed


Posted by: funktree---------------------

17 - Mike LaRocco
18 -Grant Langston
19 - Travis Pastrana
20 - Michael Byrne


Posted by: funktree---------------------

and

16 - Mike Brown


Posted by: yz_2fity_02---------------------

chad reed - what a legend


Posted by: Camstyn---------------------

Yeah, in his own mind.. Why don't we see how the season goes before we declare him a legend? :scream:


Posted by: Michelle---------------------

Congratulations to Chad & Darryl Hurley
Did Josh Coppins turn up? (sorry, haven't seen the qualifying results but I know he was meant to be there - along with Ben Townley, who injured himself in practice)


Posted by: jboomer---------------------

I read that Pastrana pulled out of the main because of his knee. WTF??? That poor kid! I hope it's not too serious and won't hurt his season, again.


Posted by: Chili---------------------

Michelle, Coppins was 8th in his semi and destined for the LCQ. AMA doesn't have any results up for the LCQ so not sure where he finished but he didn't make the main.


Posted by: marcusgunby---------------------

REED REED REED REED-my hero


Posted by: Zoomer---------------------

Did Reed go wire to wire, or did he have to pass RC? or ??? :thumb:


TP and The Rock crashed, I hope not into each other :scream:


Posted by: Vic---------------------

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/


Posted by: truespode---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by jboomer
I read that Pastrana pulled out of the main because of his knee. WTF??? That poor kid! I hope it's not too serious and won't hurt his season, again.


RC and TP had a collision in the heat race and then TP and the Rock had something happen in the main that put them down. That is where he popped his knee out again from what I heard.

Ivan


Posted by: mdkuder---------------------

What would happen if Ricky (the demolisher) rode an entire moto without coming into contact with anyone and no I don't mean leaving them behind from the start? :flame: Don't get me wrong he's a great rider but when he's challenged why is there always a collision? Yeah, I watched his B.S. since he went pro, way to many incidents to be considered coincedental. Somebody seriously needs to use him for traction.


Posted by: JTT---------------------

Big congrats to Preston!! :thumb: Maybe it won't be a Bubba runaway?? ...I did say, maybe


Posted by: Kawidude---------------------

Wow, only one race down and it's already a very interesting season. It's going to be great following this!


Posted by: MxKid512---------------------

"Did Reed go wire to wire, or did he have to pass RC? or ??? "

R.C. crashed. Twice. He was dead last so thats quite an impressive run coming from the back of the field twice and finishing second.


Posted by: patpipes---------------------

I'm an idiot.


Posted by: 02'Cr Rider---------------------

the rock crashed over a section on the track,then followed by tortelli but he missed mike and then came travis and ran over mikes arm or something and crashed.TP got up rode away but pulled off the track due to use knee.Travis was so fast in the qualifing that him and RC was battling.Travis caught up to ricky and was about to pass on a turn,somehow rickys bike slid out and hit TP and down goes TP.Everyone boo RC.


Posted by: yz_2fity_02---------------------

rickys gonna get his beans one of these days guys are gonna stop putting up with his contact passing b.s. the crowd reaction to his pastrana takeout move says it all. pastrana was quicker than rc in heat 2 and ricky couldn't take it, so he resorted to dirty tactics. the "i hate ricky club" just got bigger.


Posted by: Patman---------------------

I heard Travis had pulled a stupid people trick earlier in the week and wadded himself up pretty good, with no knee braces no less :confused:


Posted by: n8MX---------------------

I don't really see a problem with RC's pass, as much as I like TP. Like Travis said, that's racing. I DID really want Travis to beat him... I just wish someone would park RC and show that they aren't intimidated. It's too bad TP DNFed and will be so far down in points.


Posted by: nephron---------------------

Patman--aren't you the one that doesn't believe in knee braces?

Reed just took the lead and held it, riding like a bat out of hell out front, probably running for fear that RC was somewhere behind him. He pulled the quickest time of the night by about a second. Something like 57.2.

Everything behind him was chaos, with a lot of people going down. The zook riders looked strong up front at first, and I believe they were 2,3,5 or something like that. But TP went down, and Sebastian and Stephane faded. DV and TF rode strong races, but not their best, and RC just dispensed of them as if they were little children.

RC came from dead last, and when I wrote the comment on the orange gear, he was at least 28 seconds behind 2nd place and ended up picking everyone off and cleaning Ferry's clock with 3 laps to go. He's simply awe inspiring. He almost caught Reed.

No one is worthy. It's just the simple truth. It will be interesting to see RC and Reed battle. TP, however, should go get religion or something. He needs some serious mojo. That guy could be up there with RC and Reed. It's just a shame.


Posted by: Boozer---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Cam Mitchell
Yeah, in his own mind.. Why don't we see how the season goes before we declare him a legend? :scream:


he is a legend, all of the front runners are. That's what makes them pros.
How long have you been racing pro?


Posted by: nephron---------------------

Oh, and did anyone notice Ryan Clark @ 7th?

Hot damn! That's awesome for a privateer. I didn't see his name anywhere near the front on the live timing card until near the end. He just quietly pulled 1:00 flat laptimes, and passed Ezra somewhere near the end of the race. Unbelievable. Why don't the factory guys look at him? Look at the list of factory riders he whooped: Lusk, Roncada, Larocco, Langston, and others...


Posted by: whitesands26---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Boozer


he is a legend, all of the front runners are. That's what makes them pros.
How long have you been racing pro?


Jeremy Mcgrath, Broc Glover, Rick Johnson, Jeff Ward, and David Bailey are legends...Carmichael will be when he retires

Chad Reed isn't...Yet

Chad looks like an awesome rider but to give him legendary status this early is nonsense...

Let him win a few championships first....In my opinion he may end up taking the championship this year....It will be interesting to see him get a start behind RC..


Posted by: jpuetz---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Patman
I heard Travis had pulled a stupid people trick earlier in the week and wadded himself up pretty good, with no knee braces no less :confused:


Can you post a web link to where you read this? Or do you know someone that was there? Not hacking on you, but, it's tough enough to get live info on a race let alone what the riders did in practice/free time, and what they were or were not wearing at the time.

Travis ran down RC in the 250 heat #2, and passed him clean in the whoops. RC parked TP in the next corner. I guess you pass others like you would like to be passed. All of that "it's just racing" can be flushed down the crapper. If you can go the entire outdoor season undefeated, and be considered the best rider on 2 wheels, I would imagine you can pass without putting someone on the ground. Wait a minute, I think we saw it later that night. Bubba comes out of the hole shot in 18th in the 125 main, gets up, finishes 2nd, WITHOUT TAKING ANOTHER RIDER DOWN!! The crowd cheered every pass he made. I cheer him also. To pass that many pro riders clean in 15 laps is proof of being a great rider. What RC did was crap. I felt bad for him when he go booed before, but not now. I could see if it was a battle for half the main event and they were trading paint the whole time, but TP past him clean.
I race motocross, and if I have to park them to pass them, I won't do it. If you don't race, and just type MX, then you just won't get it. Even my 8yr old that races though it was bad. He asked me, "why did he hit him, Travis didn't hit him?". I'll let him figure that out on his own.


Posted by: oldguy---------------------

That info was given in a private setting and I will confirm hearing it from the source also. I would love to tell you by who but it was in confidence and Pat and I will respect that.
Altho I do believe at least 1 (b-boogie) fantasy competitor also found that info in a public area and referanced this in the team pick thread as to why he stayed away from picking Travis


Posted by: RM_guy---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by nephron
Oh, and did anyone notice Ryan Clark @ 7th?

Hot damn! That's awesome for a privateer. I didn't see his name anywhere near the front on the live timing card until near the end. He just quietly pulled 1:00 flat laptimes, and passed Ezra somewhere near the end of the race. Unbelievable. Why don't the factory guys look at him? Look at the list of factory riders he whooped: Lusk, Roncada, Larocco, Langston, and others...
Yeah I'd like to see him get more credit too. There was some crap going on last yer and he got passed over. It's too bad. I met him last year at Unadilla and he loves the sport and will keep riding as long as his sponsers hold up. He's a nice guy.


Posted by: truespode---------------------

The info was well publicized on other websites and subscription news services as well, not just from the source that Oldguy and Patman have heard it from.

Ivan


Posted by: nephron---------------------

There are a series of pics of the "takedown" of TP by RC on sxgp.com. Check it out. It looks like RC block-passed him by sweeping his rear tire into Travis' front tire (Travis looked to be letting RC by), and the impact was hard enough as to spin TP's bike in at least a 180. Looks like he went down very hard.

What Travis needs is an attitude, because no matter how fast he is, he isn't going to beat RC consistently without being brutal to some degree. He needs to be the aggressor and quit playing the nice guy. Take him out in a practice session, or something for crying out loud.


Posted by: jboomer---------------------

Did anyone even LISTEN to the web feed last night? When RC block passed TP, Travis -- instead of chopping the throttle and squaring the turn-- tried to "push through" RC. It was a bad decision on Travis's part, period. They even went back and replayed it on the jumbotron and said that it would have been a clean pass but Travis wouldn't back down. RC didn't purposely take Pastrana out. Just like Stanton said right after that Heat: "You guys are a bunch of P***ies."


Posted by: coleman---------------------

Anyone know when/if the races will be on tv?


Posted by: jboomer---------------------

Saturday, noon (Eastern) on ESPN2!!!!


Posted by: mx547---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by jpuetz


I race motocross, and if I have to park them to pass them, I won't do it. If you don't race, and just type MX, then you just won't get it.


i race. i've used block passes and i've had them used against me. if the guy behind me throttles into me, then that's his problem. i won't wreck anyone on purpose but if i have to bump them to get by, i will. that is racing.

here's some info on tp from another site:

DEC 31--TRAVIS PASTRANA ALSO HURT

Another one bit the dust yesterday while testing. Travis Pastrana was testing at Castillo Ranch’s Supercross track yesterday, and apparently tried a new jump off the side of the track that he personally built. He hit the big step up fourth gear tapped, jumped off the bike and slammed on his bad leg when he landed. He got up and was walking, but was limping pretty badly. No worries, though. Travis wasn't affected by the crash. He'll be set for Anaheim this weekend

i think i'll start the "i hate people that hate rc" club.


Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

I'll be one of the first ones you hate, mx547.


Posted by: jpuetz---------------------

here's some info on tp from another site:

DEC 31--TRAVIS PASTRANA ALSO HURT

Another one bit the dust yesterday while testing. Travis Pastrana was testing at Castillo Ranch’s Supercross track yesterday, and apparently tried a new jump off the side of the track that he personally built. He hit the big step up fourth gear tapped, jumped off the bike and slammed on his bad leg when he landed. He got up and was walking, but was limping pretty badly. No worries, though. Travis wasn't affected by the crash. He'll be set for Anaheim this weekend[/B][/QUOTE]

Patman, you are accurate, sorry.


Posted by: mx547---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by XRpredator
I'll be one of the first ones you hate, mx547.


haha. if i can't think of anything bad to say about you, i'll just make it up. okay?


Posted by: nephron---------------------

mx547---I'm not an RC hater. I just want the rest of these p***ies to kick it up a notch.

Looks like Lusk was sleeping out there. What the hell happened to that guy? He used to be the only one willing to go at RC, make or break. He looked good at the US Open, but just seems to be "surviving" out there. We need him to come back at RC hard to at least make this interesting.

RC proves the point in a collision, that size doesn't matter. It's apparently center of gravity.


Posted by: jboomer---------------------

Lusk talked big before the race too. They interviewed him and he said something along the lines that he's not felt this good on the bike since '93 or some year. I'm supposing he meant he felt good! Hopefully at least Reed will keep "this interesting." I've almost lost hope in any kind of real battle between RC and TP. That kid won't stay healthy.


Posted by: zcookie49---------------------

Hats off to Reed. Even though is cockiness is questionable, his riding skills are not. It is just great to see that it might not be a "cake walk" for RC for SX this year. I do agree it is a bummer for TP to get hurt again, it seems he just gets bored with practicing, so he says in No Fear Chapter 2 dvd. He needs a thrill all the time, that is why he probably built that other jump in practice this week when he got hurt.
It looks to be an exciting year ...


Posted by: JPIVEY---------------------

I'm not a RC hater, but I do think that was pretty chicken chit, it was only a heat race,all either one of them had to do was finish top 10 and they were off to the main. Rc was dogged then passed cleanly, he had plenty of time to do the same ( that is if he's as good as we all make him out to be ), so I don't see it as being " Thats Racing ". If that move was put on Travis in the main, well then that's a whole different story, but pretty lame in a heat race.

TP's interview after the race was,I thought pretty cool, He accepted it and even accepted most of the blame, but it also serves as justification to return the favor first chance he gets.

RC interview kind of left me thinking that it was a deliberate take out, his commit was, and I'm paraphasing here, My focus in on the championship,so if that's the case, why is being passed in a heat race, in RD # 1 so devastating that you have to revert to tactic that you know damn well put the rider down?, Could it be that in order to win back to back titles he feels he needs to start eliminating the competiton one Round at a time

I don't Hate him, I just think he's a chicken chit little weasle


Posted by: truespode---------------------

I re-watched the 1986 Aneheim SX with RJ and Bailey. I have seen more banging in that race between those two than I did all last year (and that includes the post-race slappy slap with DV and Roncada ).

The aggressive riding that is complained about now is nothing in comparison.

I do not agree that you need to put others down and ride into each other out there but this is the pro's and at that level the mental edge is important and if your competition is too scared to pass you then you just got an advantage. May not be pretty, may not be nice... but it can be effective.

Ivan


Posted by: nikki---------------------

Man what a great night of racing... I hope Reed keeps getting starts so he can challenge RC.

Ivan - you are so right. After the heat race... Jeff Stanton over the web feed said that today's riders are a bunch of pu$$ies compared to how it used to be back in the day. Bangin bars and swappin plastic was the norm 10-20 years ago.

I loved TP's interview after his semi win when he laughed and called Ricky a "Weeble Wobble" because the guy can get all outta shape and never go down (guess he jinxed him for the main). Ya know... the little weeble wobble toys with the weights in the bottom that you just can't tip over...

If you haven't noticed... in the incident at Indy between the two last year and in the heat race yesterday - RC is about to go down on both occasions, too... but somehow managed to stay up. Travis was in good spirits about the contact yesterday and simply saw it as them colliding. As said earlier, if Travis wouldn't have got on the gas as hard as he did, he probably woulnd't have went down yesterday. From what I have read on motonews.com - after they played the replay over the Anaheim Jumbotron it was clear it wasn't a deliberate takeout attempt. I also read on cyclenews.com (or maybe supercross.com ?) that RC turned around and looked at TP after the incident. He was probably thinikin... "oh crap here we go again with the fans". Poor guy...

Can't wait until next week! :thumb:


Posted by: jboomer---------------------

Come on JPIVEY, tell us how you really feel! Now, Don't hold anything back or try and spare our feelings or anything!!!


Posted by: cappra---------------------

Chad Reed is the real deal this could be a great race season,don,t forget he was in the top 5 last year when he switched to 125 east it will be good for racing if RC has competition,hope TP gets better because he was making it tough for him in the main.


Posted by: Big Tuna---------------------

I think what's chicken $#!% is the people that are booing! RC is out there riding his heart out for a championship (one of the few that is willing to do whatever it takes) and people are calling "him" down!! These other pros "know" how to take care of themselves, that's how they got to where they're at, what's good for the goose is good for the gander, and I think RC knows this as well as anyone. He rides that fine line better than everyone, TP keeps going over it, and most of the others are happy riding a little more on the safe side of it. In the end I hope Reed keeps it up, and this 250 season comes down to the wire. :thumb:


Posted by: JJmxr---------------------

I think its important to remember that RC has dominated the the sport in the last 18 months, and all roads to first place go through him. Travis used poor judgment in not understanding this. I agree with Stanton. I would say backing off, and squaring to set myself up for a later pass would have been prudent. Not to mention the fact that he should have known that RC isn't exactly the cleanest guy around. I did hear Travis say something about a brake check though. Even though RC had to fight traffic I think its significant that Reeds lap was so much faster. I think that RC, Reed, and TP (if he can stop being stupid) will have some great battles in the coming months.

Any one know where to get the lap times?


Posted by: JPIVEY---------------------

Yea I know Boomer, I don't know enough about SX/MX to be saying anything, but I just don't get the logic, Do you get extra cash for winning a Heat Race? I don't know, is it so much money that you look at a Heat Race as main event, again I don't know, what I do know is that, RC is faster than most, more consistent than most and with those two thing alone going for, why do crap like that in a heat race for god sakes. Like I said before, if that was the main event and RC did that I would say that’s racing.

I have this vision of RC getting this grieving lip syndrome after he got passed and did a here take that kind of thing and I’m sure the last thing that crossed his mind was what the crowd was going to think, it was more like oh good he’s gone


Also, I don't know about SX/MX racing 15-20 years ago, but in the late 60s to early 70s I did some MX and the battling and banging that went on was more due to the fact that field ( bike & rider )was so evenly matched and not so much a tactical manuver


Posted by: mx547---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by nephron
mx547---I'm not an RC hater. I just want the rest of these p***ies to kick it up a notch.

Looks like Lusk was sleeping out there. What the hell happened to that guy? He used to be the only one willing to go at RC, make or break.


i wasn't implying that you in particular were an rc hater. i just think it's silly to hate a guy because he's good and aggressive. it's too bad about lusk. he was my hero when he was the only rider with the nads to challenge mc. i still like the guy but now he's just an "also ran". maybe he just had too many hard crashes.


Posted by: Kawidude---------------------

It's too bad Travis went down, but at least he was on the gas trying to challenge RC. How many times have we seen RC try to get around someone who backed off and let him go right by (or hit the ground in the process). I'm sure Travis is bummed about going down, but at least he was fighting for it and not handing RC anything on a silver platter.


Posted by: los36---------------------

Stanton says:
"You guys are a bunch of pu$$ies!"
That sounds like something a Honda Racing employee would say about the incident.

ANYWAY...to the point I want to make:

I've been watching SX in the Astrodome and on TV since 1990. Yeah, those guys might have traded a little more paint back then, but the only time people hit the dirt, was when people were more interested in taking their competition out than winning(read Bradshaw and Mataisevich).

Watch the classic races with Wardy and Stanton, Bailey and Johnson...great AGGRESSIVE battles, but atleast they had enough RESPECT for the sport and each other to let the racing last for more than 1 lap.

BTW-
RESPECT: DOES NOT mean being afraid of your competition, it means conducting yourself on the track with class.

AGGESIVE: DOES NOT mean taking people out because they're challenging you, it means taking chances that might improve your lap times, such as jumping something the guy next to you isn't.

I don't think sliding your back wheel into the competition's front tire is very aggressive...more like sh*tty.


Posted by: mx547---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by los36


I don't think sliding your back wheel into the competition's front tire is very aggressive...more like sh*tty.


but since that's not what happened, it's a moot point.

from transworld mx:
Later talking to Travis, he told me, "I promised all my family, that if Ricky ever stopped in a corner, looked over and brake-checked me, that I would wheelie and run his butt over. He stopped, and I wheelied."

now, quit harping on it.


Posted by: robrm250---------------------

it takes a man like los 36 to get it right,probably bacause he rides an RM .RC is the P#%$% if he is so great why does he always has to resort to taking people out.We watched Ernhardt pull this also and he got booed to,it is hard enough trying to race a whole season without getting hurt without some chicken s%$& taking people out to win.Who gives a s&^% what a Stanton says if he knows so much why don't he give up his cush job and go race hare and hound or enduros we will see how he likes it when someone puts him in a tree.


Posted by: los36---------------------

.
Quote:
Later talking to Travis, he told me, "I promised all my family, that if Ricky ever stopped in a corner, looked over and brake-checked me, that I would wheelie and run his butt over. He stopped, and I wheelied."

I like Travis but I never said he was a genius...

I don't really like Ricky, but he is an awesome rider...so awesome that I don't think that he needs to "park" the competition in order to win. I'm sure he could find a part on the track where he's faster than the competition and use that to his advantage.


Posted by: JPIVEY---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by los36
.
I'm sure he could find a part on the track where he's faster than the competition and use that to his advantage.


I'm with you 100% on that, that is racing


Posted by: Big Tuna---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by JPIVEY


I'm with you 100% on that, that is racing


I thought rubbins racin. :confused:


Posted by: portish---------------------

the bottom line to this RC vs TP discussion is that pastrana was FASTER than ricky, he'd be the only rider who has straight up caught and passed ricky since vullimen did it in indy last year. now that TP is injured he probably wont be able to do it again for a while, maybe reed is the last hope for a good series.


Posted by: Chili---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by robrm250
Who gives a s&^% what a Stanton says if he knows so much why don't he give up his cush job and go race hare and hound or enduros we will see how he likes it when someone puts him in a tree.


Nothing like respect for the legends of the sport.  Perhaps Lennox Lewis should challenge Muhammed Ali next time he offers an opinion also


Posted by: mdkuder---------------------

The little wobbly weeble RC has pulled the same antics his whole pro career, well unless he's way out front. I think everyone should band together and run his punk @ss over. I would also like to see him try that crap with Larocco, yeah I know he's not up front, well unless you count the U.S. Open.


Posted by: Tony Williams---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by n8MX
I DID really want Travis to beat him... I just wish someone would park RC and show that they aren't intimidated.


Didn't we have similar debates with MC/RC over intimidation?

Congrats to MC on his retirement, and thanks to RC for being in his prime... hoping he'll know when to jump ship, too :thumb:


Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

Okay, here's the deal. Stanton can call everyone p***ies, but the chicken**** moves that the Angry Elf pulls are a lot different than the bar banging that used to go on. The brake checks are not cool. You might as well ghost your bike into the guy in front of you (a la Chicken vs. Bradshaw)

If you're the fastest man out there, you don't need to resort to the brake checks to get by.


Posted by: jboomer---------------------

It's a new season! Who's to say he's still the fastest? You've got TP that turned a faster lap than he in practice and Reed who turned a faster lap in the main! We know Reeds consistent, who was to have known that Pastrana although a year older was still not the wiser! I applaud his chicken**** moves. It makes for an exciting race! They are all big boys now, I think they can handle! So can RC if TP or Reed lays one on him!


Posted by: nikki---------------------

Posted by JP in another thread - here is RacerX photo proof that the incident wasn't a deliberate RC takeout... and that Pastrana was the one to run into RC. RC gave Travis plenty of room in the corner.

Just like Indy all over again. They must have magnets pulling them together out there... geeze... :silly:

http://www.racerxill.com/010703_Contact.cfm


Posted by: JPIVEY---------------------

I don't know, but that first shot looks like he's setting him up and the third shot he is diffidently checking him out.

Like I said before, I am MX challenged and I don’t know any better, I just don’t understand the need to block/check anyone in a heat race when your both going to the main anyhow.

And as far as the photos showing that he didn’t look over before the contact doesn’t prove that it didn’t happen, there is a lot of time lapse between frames.

I swear this has nothing to do with RC, it has to do with the tactic itself


Posted by: los36---------------------

I think the pics at sxgp.com tell a different story:
SXGP Pics

Either way, I can't wait for next week!


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

Looks like the same story to me. Here's an SXGP pic of Ricky all alone in a turn. . .with the rear WAY out.


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

And here's a pic of RC and TP together in the same turn. If Travis would have kept both wheels on the ground, he might have stayed up. RC had him in this pic. All Travis had to do was back off a bit, and the race could have continued.

It was nice to see someone pass RC straight up though.


Posted by: marcusgunby---------------------

I cant make head nor tail of the pictures-it looks like they are miles apart and RC in front and then travis's bike is on the ground in front of RC and Travis is behind.I will need to wait till i see it.However it seems to me they should be able to get through a heat race without hitting each other.Also as travis had the speed he should have held back to the main and not shown ricky his speed.Played into RCs hands by the sounds of it.


Posted by: patpipes---------------------

For all you people thinking that RC could be beat this year just realize that the California tracks are RCs worse surface. He likes Arizona pretty well and loves the midwest and east soil. Reed who is a great rider cannot move through traffic fast enough, he could never go from last to 2nd. SO RC had his best finish ever in Anaheim and it looks like another cake walk to me. For all you people checking lap times try checking the practice sessions as well. Also try checking the 15th lap on compared to the first few, that is why RC will remain king. Motocross is built on block passing, the rider being past usually shuts down to avoid a crash, TP forgot the art of staying up. You can mention all the names you want about putting RC down but the fact is none has surfaced yet! Also maybe a few people here should review that Bubba pass on Sellards last year!


Posted by: MXFastGuy---------------------

Oh brother. Give them both a break and let 'em race.

You want contact? Come watch the local 125C class in the FIRST PRACTICE on Sunday mornings. And they're going for $2 trophies. Some of you guys would be talking about that for years!

Flame on!



Posted by: biglou---------------------

Did anyone catch "Bike Week" on Speed Channel yesterday? They had some good clips of both classes and also MC's retirement speech. The rest of the show was about John Penton and kTm. Great show.


Posted by: jonesy---------------------

OH PLEASE!! Boo all you want, R.C. will be on top at the end of the season.


Posted by: Tommygun---------------------

The truth is readily apparant why people (mature adults, that is) boo RC - read MXfastguy's statement - "watch local 125C class in the first practice...". We don't like these tactics by the "heros" because our kids (and guys we race against in our classes) try them next week locally. They set the mores for the motocross world. This sport (local and pro) sees too many injuries as it is, let's not add to them - by fellow riders. Ride for fun - isn't that what we are all doing anyway?


Posted by: dirt bike dave---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by BigLou
Did anyone catch "Bike Week" on Speed Channel yesterday? They had some good clips of both classes and also MC's retirement speech. The rest of the show was about John Penton and kTm. Great show.


I saw the show and enjoyed it very much.

While they did not show RC's and TP's heat race incident, they did show RC's crashes in the main event. He lost a lot of time, and still got second against a very strong field.

I enjoy watching the pros race aggressively - It's professional SX, not tiddlywinks.


Posted by: patpipes---------------------

Hey do yourself a favor and go to racerX and view the series of pictures, RC's bike did not slide out. He passed TP and got run into by Travis. When he passed TP you could have put another bike between them. The Boos should have been for Travis he initiated that contact, but he lost because he was behind RC. Now take a look and then come back with your opinions!


Posted by: jboomer---------------------

(Phoenix)

Wow! That was exciting! At least the 1st 1/3 of it! Very technical track, EVERYONE out for blood (including RonRon!)! 125's were great too!


Posted by: los36---------------------

After watching ESPN this weekend, I would like to rescind my RC statements. I guess we can argue all day unless we were there or until see it for ourselves.
RC's move was clean and TP screwed it up. What we should have been talking about were the moves that Nick Wey tried to put on Heath Voss in the LCQ! Wow! I like both of those guys but man, Wey was brutal!


Posted by: jboomer---------------------

Yeah, he was bulldoggin him alright!


Posted by: JPIVEY---------------------

I was busy all weekend, didn't see the race onTV, didn't even get to listen to Phoenix on the internet,but seeing that I made some commits based I what I heard ( not what I saw )on SXGP at round 1, I think I need to back peddle now based on what I'm hearing ( here at DRN )

I'll be in the corner


Posted by: atc3434`---------------------

Yeah, ok anybody that wants to complain about RC's pass on Pastrana has nothing. RC got blocked passed by TP a few turns back, and what did RC do... he let off, let TP by, and then came back. Now RC lays down a clean block pass, and TP hammers the trottle right into Ricky. TP has only one person to blame for falling there, himself. And what about all the TP advocates saying it was only a heat race. Did TP need to pass Ricky then? Watch the tape... watch it again. I've seen the whole hour segment of the 250's twice now, and finally got the 125s for the first time today. RC didn't deserve his booing. And I'd like to see what other riders could do with being in last place in the main, how many could make it up to second. Whether or not you like the kid, he's good. I just hope its a tight race between Reed, RC, Ferry, and Travis (If he calms down a little, and keeps all his limbs attached.)



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