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Bob Hannah is pissed

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Posted by: MX2_motorex---------------------

I just got done reading the artical from racerxill.com what Bob Hanna says isnt pretty.


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Bob is always pissed.


Posted by: MX2_motorex---------------------

woops I spelled (hannah) wrong


Posted by: BigBore---------------------

I just read the article. All I gotta say is, GO BOB! Tell it like it is!


Posted by: BadgerMan---------------------

"How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Robert Hannah!

LMAO!

I gotta admit though, it's pretty tough to argue with his points.

Go Bob go!


Posted by: fatty_k---------------------

"...I'd pull over, put my kickstand down, and kick his ass!"



Posted by: BadgerMan---------------------

What a maroon, everybody knows that MX bikes don't have kickstands...............


Posted by: Tony Eeds---------------------

It was a breath of fresh air. I think Bob had the guts to say some things that are true IMHO.


Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

I'm a big Hurricane fan, but I'll still boo RC if I wanna. Nobody says I have to like him. It has little to do with his riding style. There's just something about him . . .


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Tony Eeds
It was a breath of fresh air. I think Bob had the guts to say some things that are true IMHO.

Why wouldn't Bob have the guts? Think he has anything to lose? Nope. Don't get me wrong.. the old school boys are why we are here, but Hannah is an opinionated ass and always has been.


Posted by: BigBore---------------------

I'll admit RC seems to have the personality of a cold turd onna paper plate.....but I still can't see any reason to boo him.


Posted by: Rich Rohrich---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Okiewan
but Hannah is an opinionated ass and always has been.



For opinionated asses everywhere I'd just like to say GO BOB GO.


Posted by: Tom Dixon---------------------

Quote:
Don't get me wrong.. the old school boys are why we are here, but Hannah is an opinionated ass and always has been.


Way to lay it down staight!! :thumb:


Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

Quote:
BigBore came up with this gem:
. . . a cold turd onna paper plate . . .

reason enough for me to boo


Posted by: yzguy15---------------------

If I remember correctly, Bob had a similar article in MXA (I think?) about 3 or so years ago. Yea yea, I used to read MXA, I was young and dumb, what can I say?


Posted by: jeffd---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by yzguy15
Yea yea, I used to read MXA, I was young and dumb, what can I say?


Was that yesterday? :scream:

-jeffd


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Rich Rohrich



For opinionated asses everywhere I'd just like to say GO BOB GO.


Thanks Rich You know I'm not one of those...


Posted by: bigred455---------------------

I am going to have to agree with Hurricane,most of from what I heard, I heard on the live web cast it sounded like travis wen't for the outside and Ricky wen't for the inside. That is called racing,when travis came out of the corner with ricky, it sounded like there tires met,normal racing.Travis went down,I bet travis caught Ricky's back wheel with his front,only tomorrow will tell when we see it on tv.When we see this tomorrow anybody who know's anything about sx and mx racing will call it clean.Honda, I am not a big fan of of the corporation (bikes aside). Ricky on the other hand is so dedicated to racing,no I do not know him personally,but this kid has heart and passion for the sport it shows.He want's to win and win only and it shows.Who cares about his personality,it is not a social event.People need to understand when he is at the races he has 1 thing on his mind and 1 thing only to win.Half of these fans are posers, who watch the x games and know nothing about clean or dirty racing, most of them are probably wrestling fans.I never disliked ricky, I never talked to him personally,how this hate for RC came about I do not know, I think this kid carries himself well from the interviews I have seen.This kid has heart and in my book I have t great respect for him .Keep on kicking ass RC. Personally I wan't travis to take it all


Posted by: Senior KX Rider---------------------

[SIZE=4]GO BOB!!!![/SIZE] :thumb:


Posted by: Jon K.---------------------

Again I find myself looking for the old photo of Weinert jamming his handlebar into Distefano's mouth. I dug up the old thread (from 8/22/01) in which Wes (VintageDirt) found the photo, but it only had a few replies. Wes's link was gone. I thought threads lived forever? What gives? Okie?
I can't speak for anyone else, but RC rubs me the wrong way for jumping to Honda after Kawasaki nurtured him up from the pee-wee class to his present status of best in the world. Boo him? Not me, but he will never be a favorite of mine.
How long before Honda buys Stewart?
Pastrana is a self-proclaimed village idiot.
Oh, and if Clearchannel (or Pace, or whoever) is going to promote supercross in a fashion that is remarkably similar to professional wrestling; we can expect booing, throwing of beer cans, etc.
I am sure I am in enough trouble already, so I will shut my mouth now.


Posted by: xsquiggy---------------------

That's one of the best articles I've read in a long time.


Posted by: Enduro_Nut---------------------

Bob hit the nail on the head EXCEPT the California comment, every state and or area has their own ideology and if you don't like it - See ya'!


Posted by: OnAnySunday---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Rich Rohrich:
"For opinionated asses everywhere I'd just like to say GO BOB GO. "



I'll join in on that chorus. :thumb:


Posted by: zcookie49---------------------

"pull over, put my kickstand down...."
.
Am I missing something lately, I haven't noticed any teams racing with kickstands this year???.....

is that the new mod out there...


Posted by: BSWIFT---------------------

I may have to get a Hurricane kit for Brutus.  Flame on, Bob! :flame:


Posted by: limitless---------------------

zcookie - yeah, they gold platnium & gold kickstand now!!LOL
big red - that sounds exactly like what happend at the indy SX lastyear (with pastrana & RC in a corner). RC won and got booed really bad, I left the stadium in disgust. He had a great race! Though most the time my eyes were on mcgrath (He's the reason I bought a bike)


Posted by: Bill Hibbs---------------------

I don't really like Bob (sick of hearing him talk about himself) and I'm not real happy with Ricky going to Honda but Bob is right on the $$ with this one!! I watched the race today and that move was as clean as they come. Travis was just pissed when Ricky passed him so quick and couldn't handle it. I don't know how a true motorcyle fan could "boo" someone who Lives and Breathes bikes like Ricky and is an honest competitor. Like him or not.. Why was noone booing Roncada when he was obviously gunning for Ricky?... It's a real shame.


Posted by: IrishEKU---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Bill Hibbs
I don't really like Bob (sick of hearing him talk about himself) and I'm not real happy with Ricky going to Honda but Bob is right on the $$ with this one!! I watched the race today and that move was as clean as they come. Travis was just pissed when Ricky passed him so quick and couldn't handle it. I don't know how a true motorcyle fan could "boo" someone who Lives and Breathes bikes like Ricky and is an honest competitor. Like him or not.. Why was noone booing Roncada when he was obviously gunning for Ricky?... It's a real shame.
Bill, I think that is the longest response you have ever made!

I agree with your statment and think that RC getting "Boo'ed" is a load of BS and that folks doing so arn't considered fans. My reasons stem from the fact that RC has dominated just about every race he has been in and that folks are tired of seeing him win races. That said, folks that are only there to see the winner and not the race shouldn't be there(Meaning folks that are there to see their favorite win). I applaude all that make the main, not just the factory teams because it takes something that I don't have to compeat at that level. I ignore results and wait a week to see it on ESPN2 is because I enjoy bikes and racing. Not who is racing but the ground down aspect of what it is about.


My .02,


Posted by: KXTodd---------------------

Hannah! Some people have a way with words and that was classic and to the point! No truer words could have been spoken, still LMAO!


Posted by: oldslodave---------------------

On one hand, you gotta respect Hannah for what he's accomplished and all that. I definitly don't agree with booing Ricky or any other athlete, and you won't hear either me or my kids booing any racer when the SX show comes to SF. However, I'm damn glad we live in a country where we are free to express our opinion, regardless of what others think. Those folks paid their money, and just like Hannah, are free to boo whoever they want. So this untattoed, un-pierced, 5th generation Californian wonders how much different is Hannah's rant against all us Californians than all those guys booing? Seems to me the difference is all those folks doing the booing looked at what happened, made decision they didn't like it and expressed their opinon. Hannah on the other hand, looked at a small group of folks, made some unfounded judgements about them, grouped them to include all the population of an entire state (not much different than grouping folks by race, religion, if they prefer 2 strokes... you get the idea) and effectively booed them all. Seems to me Hannah is way more ignorant all those that booed Rickey. All those that booed Ricky get their opinion, Hannah get's his opinion, and I get mine: Shut up Hannah!!!


Posted by: dthoms---------------------

Personally I think a little angst between riders makes for better racing. When I see a pro back off or leave room for another pro to pass it pisses me off. I saw LaRocco, dicing with his own team mate Keidrowski at Red Bud, and when it was all said and done when the got to the pits LaRocco picked up his bike and through it a Keidrowski. Now that was some real racing.


Posted by: johnnymoto---------------------

[QUOTE]Originally posted by BadgerMan
[B]"How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Robert Hannah!



"How not to have friends and tick everybody off" B.( I could care less)Hannah
Brash,aggressive riding,in your face trash prerace talk but the kicker was, he could back it up on the track. I like the conparison of two pictures, one of DeCoster -At speed and in control the other of Hannah - At speed and out of control.


Posted by: 2smoke---------------------

Ahhhh I think if Ricky was 6ft 2 inches tall, no freckles, no ginger hair, and had golden boy looks.......he'd be as big and as popular as McGrath was. Some cannot accept a 5ft 6 inch freckle faced gingerhead who they perceive as physically inferior to be so good...the best our sport has to offer at this time. But he is....and I like him....he's old school. Give it to them Bob!!


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Quote:
I don't know how a true motorcyle fan could "boo" someone who Lives and Breathes bikes like Ricky and is an honest competitor.

Because folks in the seats can't see ... no close-ups, no slow-mo replays, etc.

Somehow, some way, anyone that runs with RC is gonna get rubbed. He doesn't just pass, he likes to toss in an exclamation point for good measure. Call it what you want. Is it racing? Yup. Is it at times unnecessarily aggressive? Yup. Don't you think RC could have made the pass on Pastrana without the brake check? Ricky is very good at intimidating the competition. Everyone knows it and it appears that fewer and fewer are willing to take it.

The Roncada thing? No one can whine about that... RC dished-out big time last year, looks like RonRon is serious about payback. What goes around...


Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

I said it before and I'll say it again. I'll boo him because I don't like him.

But I'll cheer for Dowdy no matter where he is in the pack, you buncha bandwagoners.


Posted by: WideOpen---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by XRpredator
But I'll cheer for Dowdy no matter where he is in the pack, you buncha bandwagoners.


bah! you just like him cause he's old

now, guy cooper is a real racer!


Posted by: JPIVEY---------------------

Oh, Hannah is an old twit, maybe they weren't Lil Ricky, maybe they were booing Travis because he left his kick stand down and he got tossed


Posted by: SpeedyManiac---------------------

That was HILARIOUS!!! I agree whole-heartadly (sp?) with Hannah. My favorite riders are RC, Pastrana, Larocco and Stewart, so I'm not really biased towards Pastrana or RC. Rubbing is racing, if you can't take it then go play golf or something like that. No one deserves to be booed, all of the racers have a heart, just some have a little more than others and wont accept second place.


Posted by: jwh_wv---------------------

THATS HILARIOUS! Some of the most accurate most honest comments I have seen regarding SX in a long time. I agree the booing was ridiculous, RC is a good roll model for kids and a talented rider. It would have been nice to see him stop in front of the stands and flip the bird to all those inconsiderate bastid.

The Californian comments may have been a little out of align, every state has its own varieties of freaks.

CUDOS to Bob!

(i am not a RC fan, just a SX fan in general, but it was blatantly TP's fault)


Posted by: sfc crash---------------------

alright bob! damn, now all i gotta do is go out and win some races, then people will start taking my profane rants seriuosly.


Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

Quote:
bigred455 said
Ricky on the other hand is so dedicated to racing . . . has heart and passion for the sport it shows.He want's to win and win only and it shows.Who cares about his personality,it is not a social event.People need to understand when he is at the races he has 1 thing on his mind and 1 thing only to win . . . has heart and in my book I have great respect for him .Keep on kicking ass RC.

limitless said:
like what happend at the indy SX lastyear (with pastrana & RC in a corner). RC won and got booed really bad, I left the stadium in disgust. He had a great race!

Bill Hibbs said:
I don't know how a true motorcyle fan could "boo" someone who Lives and Breathes bikes like Ricky and is an honest competitor. Like him or not.

IrishEKU said:
I agree with your statment and think that RC getting "Boo'ed" is a load of BS and that folks doing so arn't considered fans. My reasons stem from the fact that RC has dominated just about every race he has been in and that folks are tired of seeing him win races. That said, folks that are only there to see the winner and not the race shouldn't be there(Meaning folks that are there to see their favorite win). I applaude all that make the main, not just the factory teams because it takes something that I don't have to compeat at that level. I ignore results and wait a week to see it on ESPN2 is because I enjoy bikes and racing. Not who is racing but the ground down aspect of what it is about.

So, what I'm hearing is that I should be a bandwagoner. If someone is dominating, I can't boo them. I have to cheer for them. That means I have to not only be an RC fan, but if I watch college football, I gotta cheer for Miami, if I watch college basketball, I can't boo Duke, if it's Pro football, right now I should be cheering on the dread Raiders. I say Bull-Honky to all that.

I'm gonna cheer who I wanna cheer for, and boo who I wanna boo.
Buncha bandwagoners :silly:


Posted by: sfc crash---------------------

you shouldn't boo because it's god-#$%$@#, f@#$%^%, rude..you @$$-$%^$. ahh, there all better.


Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

well, call me god-#$%$@#, f@#$%^% rude, then :confused:


Posted by: CR Swade---------------------

Pred, you can go ahead and boo, but as a rider you should know bettter than to bandwagon on w/ the twits that probably have never even raced, let alone owned a bike other than their Uncle Clem's Briggs & Stratton powered two-wheeler. "Whoo-whee we could jump that sucker jus' bout far as these here boys are doin' tonight-hell this track ain't so tough!"

I would be willing to bet that most of the new found WWF-style crowd in attendance still believes it's real (WWE now), still holds up the start of the Nascar event for the #3 finger wave-sorry but Earnhardt would say move on people and of course boo the fastest rider out there b/c he keeps winning at the SX event. Don't like Ricky, fine...but call him dirty and boo him like Andy Kaufman on a bad night-well that sounds more like bandwagoning than telling the twits to shut the hell up. For the most part they honestly don't have a clue as to why they are really booing. Jeez-Hannah, Howerton, Staten, early LaRocco, Matasiveich, Bradshaw (the list goes on) would have given these bovine twits an out-of-control boo fit right there track side.

Sorry, but racers don't boo racers-unless we are talking bout' Lusk-now there is a guy I could boo... :confused:


Posted by: BadgerMan---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by XRpredator


but if I watch college football, I gotta cheer for Miami,



Don't you mean OSU?


Posted by: IrishEKU---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by XRpredator

So, what I'm hearing is that I should be a bandwagoner. If someone is dominating, I can't boo them. I have to cheer for them. That means I have to not only be an RC fan, but if I watch college football, I gotta cheer for Miami, if I watch college basketball, I can't boo Duke, if it's Pro football, right now I should be cheering on the dread Raiders. I say Bull-Honky to all that.

I'm gonna cheer who I wanna cheer for, and boo who I wanna boo.
Buncha bandwagoners :silly:
I just love being misquoted. Did I ever mention that I was or wasn't an RC fan?

Another thing, booing team sports is one thing, that I have never done yet the reffere's seem to draw my ire quite a bit, but to boo a rider because he didn't go down in a situation that could have caused personal ingury? Heck ya I want to be associated with a bunch sadists .


Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

Mis-quoted, Irish? Hell, its what you said verbatim. :thumb:

Are we so freakin' PC now that we can't boo people? So, I would have never been allowed to boo McEnroe when he was doing his lame-ass antics on the tennis courts, eh, because he was good and you can't boo individual competitors? I for dang sure shoulda been cheering for the Soviet gymnasts, or the East German women (yeah, right!) swimmers.

I guess it's all peace and love nowadays and I'm gonna good-by-golly cheer as loud as all heck and gone for all those guys out there, gee-whiz!

Now if you'll excuse me, I gotta watch Leave it to Beaver so I can increase my gee-whiz vocabulary!


Posted by: IrishEKU---------------------

Pred,

Just to difuse this(at least my part in it) I wasn't putting down booing in sports in general. Just the part about booing RC in a potentialy dangerious situation, when he didn't go down. If he had been injured I wonder what the reaction would have been, an all out celebration party? :thumb:


Posted by: CPT Jack---------------------

"RC rubs me the wrong way for jumping to Honda after Kawasaki nurtured him".

One of the dirtbike mags last month showed a chart of the current SX riders & which teams they've ridden for (and when). Everyone was all over the map in a multicolored mess, including MC, who's ridden for what, 5 teams? RC's cloumn was the most "static" w/ only 2 teams. Wouldn't this indicate loyalty?

At any rate who cares, he doesn't owe Kawi anything. He sold plenty of bike for them and you know if he went south, they'd drop him like a hot rock. Look what Yamaha did to MC. Where was the loyalty there? It works both ways you know.


Posted by: KDX'r in IN---------------------

Here's my take, At the races things happen so fast you assume things. After seeing the race it was more Pastrana's fault. Same thing happened at the Indy SX last year. Now for aggressive riding if Roncada took out Sellards would we be saying all this crap. NO It just so happens that it was Ricky Carmichael, Travis Pastrana, and we might as well add in LaRocco. SX is alot tamer than it used to be. I don't see anything wrong with the way RC or anyone rides. Just if you are a rider you have to know what is coming and prepare. At the US Open Reed was prepared for RC. RC was prepard for the pass Travis put on him. Travis was not prepared


Posted by: Jon K.---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by CPT Jack
"RC rubs me the wrong way for jumping to Honda after Kawasaki nurtured him".

He sold plenty of bike for them and you know if he went south, they'd drop him like a hot rock. Look what Yamaha did to MC. Where was the loyalty there? It works both ways you know.


Ummm. . . . Jack? . . . . What did Yamaha do to MC?

Only Kawasaki has the Team Green program that helps young up-coming racers. If any of the rest of the big companies have a program like that, then I don't know about it. Anybody? Honda doesn't need a program like that if they can simply buy the best riders.
Ricky was just a kid when Team Green brought him up. Stewart the same way. Yes; I believe they owe a debt to Kawasaki. I would be very disapointed in Stewart if he ever jumps ship for a few more bucks.
Maybe if Honda had their own "apprenticeship" program then I would not feel quite the same.


Posted by: Tony Eeds---------------------

I could be off base, but

I think one of the reasons that a lot of people do not like RC is because he doesn't live up to the crummy multi-pierce and tattoo image presented by many of the riders and posers that parade around believing that what they do is important to the world.

He is a clean cut kid seriously following his dream and achieving what he wants in life.

Many people try to pull standouts back into the primeval soup, rather than work at developing the level of talent it takes to compete with them.

It is happening in many arenas ....
Software ... Bill Gates
Michael Jordan ... Basketball
Golf ... Tiger Woods
to name a couple that stand out at the moment.

As far as booing him, it is quite likely not the first, nor will it be the last time, he is booed because people are often prone to boo winners if they have no competion at the moment. It is human nature. So be it.

BTW - Although I pay very little attention to the professional side of our sport, I appreciate the clean cut image he presents to the press. He looks a damn sight better on the cover of a magazine than some mohon. He also gives the GAGs very little to work with regarding the "dark side" that they believe we represent.

Regarding the jump to Honda - How many of you have taken another job for a few more bucks an hour after someone has invested many $$ and hours training you? Don't feel guilty for it, that is just capitalism at its best.

Look at how lame baseball has become because those folks "believe" they are worth what they get paid. Give me minor league ball any day. They still have heart.

OK ... tear me up.


Posted by: Bill Hibbs---------------------

I'm not going to candy coat or be PC about my opinion either. I just think it's pretty lame for a fellow motorcycle rider to boo another, at least when he's being an honest competitor. I also think I stated in my thread that I didn't cheer for RC anymore, so don't include me on the "bandwagon". Cheer for whoever you want.

Yea, maybe the fans just didn't see what actually happened and it Appeared that he was riding dirty and That's why they booed him. That'll help me sleap better tonight.

I don't know, maybe I just don't group motorcycle riding in with any other sport. There's just more of a since of comradery and good will towards each other. Booing just doesn't seem to fit in to our great sport. Again, that's just the way I feel about it. Do whatever the hell you want, it's a free country.


Posted by: CPT Jack---------------------

wfo, I can't give you an exact quotation since I didn't buy the mag but one of the dirtbike mags had an interview w/ MC when he left for KTM. The gist of it (the break-up, according to MC) was that they dissed him pretty bad. He said he had wanted to stay with Yamaha until he retired. It wasn't just the money, but that he wasn't appreciated. I think it said the offer for for less than half of his previous contract. They came back later (or wanted too - not sure) with another offer, but it was too late - the damage was done. I think he had expected a degree of loyalty from them that he obviously didn't get. After all those #1 plates I guess #2 & #3 wasn't good enough. Just think of how many bikes he sold for Yamaha.

As far as Team Green, I would question benevolence as being the driving force behind their race program. If Ricky *did* owe them, exactly how long should his indentured servitude last?


Posted by: Jon K.---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by CPT Jack


If Ricky *did* owe them, exactly how long should his indentured servitude last?


Jack; don't confuse me with logic, my mind is made up!! :flame:
That's a pretty good question actually; perhaps my discontent is also rooted in Honda's inability to field a champion of their own; and their willingness to buy one.


Posted by: sfc crash---------------------

go ahead y'all...boo all you want. it's a free country. heck, boo RC to your hearts content. i remember all the nascar who hated jeff gordon, "why" says i "casin' he aint served his time in the sport yet"..what ever. a fan is a fan. me, i'd much rather cheer jeremy onto one more season than BOO any one. but that's just me. GO LOROCCO...the rock. btw, wasn't hannah the guy the ghost rode his bike into another top rider at a national because bob was mad. hmm, ok,i still like hannah. the jerk.


Posted by: CR Swade---------------------

Umm, WFO I hate to remind you but McGrath was bought by Yamaha as an established champion. Jeremy was a support Kawai rider and doing some MXA test riding when he got the Team Peak/Honda ride. Honda brought McGrath up. Fact is all factories buy established champions. If you ask me, a great team knows when to recruit a rider for maximum results-be it at the start of a career or during the dominance.


Posted by: Jon K.---------------------

McGrath is a whole other topic. I believe he came off of bicycles, served a short stint with Kawasaki, and promptly moved to Honda. Kawasaki didn't have the investment in MC as they had in RC. A different deal altogether.

As to why he moved to Suzuki, pick your story. The one I like is that he disliked the aluminum frame, and couldn't adapt to it. Yeah; that's the ticket. And I would have loved to see him stay on Suzuki long enough to earn them a championship, but it was not to be.

Jeff Ward comes to mind. The "Flying Freckle" was brought up by Kawasaki, won seven or eight titles for them and moved on to Indy cars. My hero!!

My point is: Kawasaki is the only team that seems interested in bringing up our champions. Somebody tell me if I am wrong.

And I believe that if Kawasaki comes to the conclusion that the team green program is a waste of time, which just could happen if the other teams simply buy up their champions, then the sport as a whole will be damaged.

Ideally; what I would like to see is the other manufacturers start supporting the sport at the amateur level so that they can raise their own champions.


Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

They all do, wfo, but not to the extent of Team Green. Most of it is through big dealers (i.e. Thousand Oaks Yamaha), or direct factory support of a few (the Alessi boys with Honda). It would be very cool to see a big program like Team Green from the other manufacturers.


Posted by: Camstyn---------------------

FWIW, Suzuki has had the best amateur contingency program since I first started riding.


Posted by: dirt bike dave---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by wfo74
Jeff Ward comes to mind. The "Flying Freckle" was brought up by Kawasaki, won seven or eight titles for them and moved on to Indy cars. My hero!!

My point is: Kawasaki is the only team that seems interested in bringing up our champions. Somebody tell me if I am wrong.


Jeff Ward predates Team Green and his minicycle career was spent racing Honda XR75s. I am sure at the end of his minicycle career he received Honda support, and he was featured in major print ads. He turned pro and rode a few local races for FMF before signing with Kawasaki.


Posted by: Jon K.---------------------

Jeff Ward predates Team Green? Really? Although purely by accident, I never said he was on Team Green.
I do now seem to recall Jeff on the XR75s, what brand was he riding for FMF?
I actually did a little research before posting on Jeff Ward, but obviously didn't dig deep enough!


Posted by: dirt bike dave---------------------

Back in the day ('77, I think), there was a photo in one of the mags of a young Ward on an FMF Honda CR125 or YZ125 (sorry, can't remember which one) at a local event. I think he only raced a few times (local only - no nationals) on full size bikes before starting his Kawasaki factory ride.

When Ward was coming up, Kawasaki was not an option as they did not offer a KX80.

BTW, Ward is my hero, too. Though he is associated with Kawaski for good reason, I'll bet he has won more motos on a 4 stroke Honda than any other rider. He returned to his roots and rode a CRF at the recent vet championships, with his famous 3x number from his minicycle days.


Posted by: CR Swade---------------------

So what are we saying WFO, if a rider switches it makes him automatically have less talent, grit and worthiness of fan respect? Sorry, but with all due respect I disagree. As Bill Hibbs said earlier, this is our sport-we don't boo each other. As far as all of the other newfound fans (which we should welcome), they need to learn some respect for what it takes to compete on a motorcycle at any level, let alone professionally, before they open their uninformed pieholes to boo a rider as if they were booing a pro wrestler.


Posted by: Jon K.---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by CR Swade
So what are we saying WFO, if a rider switches it makes him automatically have less talent, grit and worthiness of fan respect?

I didn't say that. Did I say that? Show me where I said that!!


Posted by: Senior KX Rider---------------------

What was the question again??????? :confused:


Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

Quote:
Wade said:
this is our sport-we don't boo each other. As far as all of the other newfound fans (which we should welcome), they need to learn some respect for what it takes to compete on a motorcycle at any level, let alone professionally

I disagree. Since I have respect for what it takes to compete on a motorcycle (at the lowest level, mind you), I figure I can go ahead and boo. I boo anyone who passes my man Dowd. I booed when Button took Henry out of contention for the SX title in '98 (and groaned with sympathy pain every time ol' Doug crashed at Budd's Creek). I 'bout near fainted when Damon Huffman stalled his KX in the corner at Seattle in '96 after trading the lead with McGrath for the entire race. I yelled at Lamson and McGrath for taking each other out in LA when MC switched to Suzuki in '97. I was disgusted when Emig got busted for possession. I utter expletives whenever Pastrana pulls a bonehead move. I cuss like a mule-skinner whenever I see Carmichael swapping it through the whoops, doing a 540, feet off the pegs, and the little sucker saves it! It's inhuman, man!

Call it what you want, I just call it a passion for the sport.


Posted by: BigBore---------------------

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Originally posted by XRpredator

I 'bout near fainted when Damon Huffman stalled his KX in the corner at Seattle in '96 after trading the lead with McGrath for the entire race.


I remember that.......I stood in front of the TV yelling like a dork (in favor of MC) the whole main even.


Posted by: Farmer John---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by XRpredator
I boo anyone who passes my man Dowd.


You do a lot of Booing.


Posted by: CR Swade---------------------

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Originally posted by XRpredator

I utter expletives whenever Pastrana pulls a bonehead move. I cuss like a mule-skinner whenever I see Carmichael swapping it through the whoops, doing a 540, feet off the pegs, and the little sucker saves it! It's inhuman, man!

Call it what you want, I just call it a passion for the sport.


Yeah, but you are the biggest, nastiest sort on DRN-we expect that from an ill-tempered sort like you'self. We have to look the other way...btw, I saw the move that drew the boos this afternoon-hell, Jamie and Lou get nastier @ Merwin than that :confused:

LMAO Farmer John


Posted by: CR Swade---------------------

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Originally posted by wfo74

I didn't say that. Did I say that? Show me where I said that!!


I didn't say that those were your words. I was asking what your intended inference was based on the earlier post:

"Ricky was just a kid when Team Green brought him up. Stewart the same way. Yes; I believe they owe a debt to Kawasaki. I would be very disapointed in Stewart if he ever jumps ship for a few more bucks.
Maybe if Honda had their own "apprenticeship" program then I would not feel quite the same."


Posted by: Jon K.---------------------

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Originally posted by CR Swade


I didn't say that those were your words. I was asking what your intended inference was based on the earlier post:


Well. . okay then

Oh; and Sr.; I'm not sure what the question was. :confused:


Posted by: KDX'r in IN---------------------

I saw a couple of NASCAR


Posted by: KDX'r in IN---------------------

I saw a couple of NASCAR references. I think (not sure) Jeff Gordon said "When I get booed that means I'm doing something that your driver isn't, and if that is winning so be it". Says quite a lot huh


Posted by: sfc crash---------------------

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Says quite a lot huh
indeed...indeed it does. if we want pred to understand tho, ya gotta put it this way. gordon said"F- off all of you @#$%#$#-@$$^*!#$, i drive so $#%^$#@ better than those @#$!-wads that it makes me #$%$#@! sick, for @#$!-sakes, people!" there :thumb:


Posted by: Hogwylde---------------------

Who the heck is bob hannah and why should I care?


Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

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sarge said:
if we want pred to understand tho, ya gotta put it this way. gordon said"F- off all of you @#$%#$#-@$$^*!#$, i drive so $#%^$#@ better than those @#$!-wads that it makes me #$%$#@! sick, for @#$!-sakes, people!"

ah, now I get it sarge! Thanks man! :thumb:


Posted by: WideOpen---------------------

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Originally posted by Hogwylde
Who the heck is bob hannah and why should I care?


i'm not sure if your kidding or if you really don't know. So i'll tell you anyway

Hannah was the best racer in the 70's and he won everything, just like RC is doing now.

should you care? no, not really. Bob is a grumpy old man, he's always pissed off. He does deserve an opinion though, as he is the father of motocross really.


Posted by: sfc crash---------------------

hannah did cheat death when his racing p-51 mustang broke an elevator in the middle of a race. that's gotta count for something too.


Posted by: Patman---------------------

I'll agree Buckwheat IS a grumpy old man, IS deserving of getting his opinion published but IS NOT the father of MX! No way, no how and I'll bet he is not that much of a legend even in his own mind.


Posted by: Jon K.---------------------

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Originally posted by sfc crash
hannah did cheat death when his racing p-51 mustang broke an elevator in the middle of a race. that's gotta count for something too.


Rumor has it that he was trying to pass Marty Tripes when he broke his leg.


Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

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Rumor has it that he was trying to pass Marty Tripes when he broke his leg.

Trying to pass the boat that was towing him on his waterskis? :confused:

And I gotta agree with Pat. Bob knows he was a badass, but he doesn't throw it out everywhere he goes. I bet he could go to downtown Middleofnowhere, ID and all they would know of him is "there's that grumpy bastage that sells all the airplanes". If you talk to him now, he'd probably get more animated talking about the Czech Jet Fighter that he just bought than any of his championships or race wins.


Posted by: Rich Rohrich---------------------

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Originally posted by Patman
... and I'll bet he is not that much of a legend even in his own mind.


Based on the interviews with Hannah it seems pretty clear HE knows that DeCoster, Robert and the guys of that era were the ones who paved the way for him and his generation. Whether you choose to agree with him or not he does point out one thing that seems pretty clear from a "fans" point of view. There sure seem to be a LOT of highly paid guys just putting in laps to get a paycheck at the track every weekend. That's why I like rooting for RC, and miss guys like Hannah, Bailey, and Johnson. Racing is always fun to watch, but watching guys race with tons of heart makes it much more enjoyable.
I'm a huge Pastrana fan, but IMHO he unfortunately came off like a whining Sally over a pretty straight-forward racing incident.


Posted by: Jon K.---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by XRpredator

Trying to pass the boat that was towing him on his waterskis? :confused:


Well. . .Yeah; . . that's how he broke his leg!!! It is just a rumor, though.



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