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Posted by: muscle---------------------

I have a 2002 YZ250 and I need to get a kit that reroutes the front brake line Honda style or straight to the caliper instead of winding all around the fork.

Does anybody know of an online source to get this?


Posted by: MX-727---------------------

http://www.mxsouth.com/rideengineering/ridprobra.htm


Posted by: muscle---------------------




Posted by: MikeT---------------------

Can't he just order a 2000 CR125 front brake line? I think Dennis Kirk has them for like $45. Is that possible?


Posted by: MX GZR---------------------

Yes it's VERY possible. I just did it on my 2000 YZ250. I used the line from a 2000 CR250 but it should be the same as the 125. You will have to modify the lower hose clamp and mount it higher on the fork guard. I put mine between the two loops that the stock line went thru near the top of the fork guard. Works GREAT! One finger stopping power now and it only took about an hour.


Posted by: Rcannon---------------------

I just bought one from Ride Engineering. I like their line because the fittings are not stuck in one place. You can rotate them without twisting the line.

I also bought their bracket. It is well made, but a bit expensive. Still, it works. They also ship fast and dont lie about when they will do it! Overall, I am very impressed with their service.

http://www.ride-engineering.com/brakes.html


Posted by: muscle---------------------

I'm just a little taken aback on their bracket. Have you guys seen this thing they sell for $29.95? Me thinks it would be better to visit the local ACE Hardware and come up with something that costs, say $2.00

So its feesible to order a 2002 CR brake line and it will match right up to the master cyl and caliper?


Posted by: Rcannon---------------------

No lie on the braket. The line is excellent.

The guy on the phone was cool, however. He told me I did not need the braket. I ended up buying it to avoid the time and hassle of building one. It really does work.


Posted by: MX-727---------------------

BTW, if you want to see the Ride clamp and the DSP clamp installed, I posted pictures on my picture page.


Posted by: muscle---------------------

I'm still a little corn fused. Rocky Mountain lists a front brake line for a CR250 that spans years 1995 - 2003. Am I to assume this line will mate with the Master cyl and caliper on my YZ250? I'm pretty sure it would but I just want to hear it from someone else.

Oh, and whats with modifying the fork slider?


Posted by: MikeT---------------------

The modifying of the slider is just taking and installing a new clamp on it to hold the line. From what I've heard, you might be able to reuse the clamp at the bottom of your fork that is currently holding your line.


Posted by: MX GZR---------------------

Unless Yamaha changed the banjo bolts for 02 it should fit. The 00 Cr250 line fit my00 YZ just fine. You have to fabricate a bracket to hold the line to the slider so it won't bow out into the wheel. On the 00 YZ the clamp that holds the line at the bottom of the slider can be mounted between the loops on the top of the slider. Just make sure they are positioned in a way that the bolts don't interfere with the slider guide underneath.


Posted by: tchamberlain---------------------

I have an 02 YZ250 also and have done the brake line mod. I will say that after having it on for a month or so, that it's not really that big of a deal. I ride mx and try to use my front brake hard. It does have a better feel than stock which has given me more confidence in braking harder. The thing I like best is that it's so much easier to take the front wheel off now. It cost me about $90 by the time everything was all said and done. Fastline steel braided brake line $70 and fork guard mounting kit $20.


Posted by: muscle---------------------

Well I'm there. I'll order the Fastline brake line from Rocky but still not so sure about the $20 clamp.

I think the dealers should offer this conversion when you are going to buy a new bike as it is only patented in Japan by Honda and routing the brake line all around the fork works but a straight shot is way MO BETTA!


Posted by: MX-727---------------------

On the KX, the slider wraps all the way around the lower fork guard, so you have to modify it so the clamp won't get trapped.


Posted by: SFO---------------------

The fastline frt line I recieved for my yz was not indexed correctly between the swaged fittings and the sheath was loose on the outside so you couldn't affix it properly to the fork guard. I used to make custom brake lines for m/c's and wouldn't have sold a product as ill refined as the fastline. I would not buy another or suggest that anyone purchase one. I have had better luck with the galpher line but having a line with indexable fittings is the dope set up, and you could trim the length if your bars are cut down.


Posted by: muscle---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by SFO
The fastline frt line I recieved for my yz was not indexed correctly between the swaged fittings and the sheath was loose on the outside so you couldn't affix it properly to the fork gaurd. I used to make custom brake lines for m/c's and wouldn't have sold a product as ill refined as the fastline. I would not buy another or suggest that anyone purchase one. I have had better luck with the galpher line but having a line with indexable fittings is the dope set up, and you could trim the length if your bars are cut down.


I dont understand what you mean by indexed correctly. Are you saying that you can interchange the type of fittings on the brakeline? Why would you want to?

Appreciate the input on your opinion of the quality of the Fastline product. I guess thats one of the things we are here to find out.


Posted by: SFO---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by muscle


I dont understand what you mean by indexed correctly. Are you saying that you can interchange the type of fittings on the brakeline? Why would you want to?



Indexing or timing, the relationship between the fitting ends. On a fixed fitting that is crimped or swaged onto the line itself there is no posibility of altering this relationship. It is cheaper and less prone to liability issues to use a fitting like this but the timing is critical to get the lay of the line correct because you cannot alter it if it is off. Hope this helps.


Posted by: muscle---------------------

Ok, the line is fairly rigid and therefore will not twist into postiion if the ends are not swaged (or crimped?) in the correct position. So the Galpher line has swivel fittings or uses fittings that can be interchanged thus enabling the line to be installed correctly by arranging the line before you tighten it down? :thumb:

I guess I'll have to look into these other manufacturers before I make an order. So far no luck on finding a Galfer distributor.


Posted by: SFO---------------------

The galfer is swaged too, it is just assembled indexed properly.
The dealer I use said most people returned their fastlines due to the above reasons and sold me on the galfer. I would run the ride line, it has ends that can swivel and will offer more tunability to proper routing and installation.
Although I have not seen one up close it appears to be right on. I also ran some zip tys to the fork guard below the rigid clamp to prevent the line from rubbing on the rotor, you can't be too careful :thumb:


Posted by: muscle---------------------

Good information on this. Much appreciated! Many riders will be interested in this. Cant wait to get my new brake line!



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