DirtRider . Net MX, SX, Arena Cross, Off-Road Community
Dirt Rider . Net Text Version Home
Dirt Bike Dirt Bike Dirt Bike Dirt Bike

This is the text version of DirtRider.Net
Click Here for the Full Version


Pages: 1

Stewart Injured

(Click here to view the original thread with full colors/images)

Posted by: Senior KX Rider---------------------

racerx
Stewart injured at Las Vegas

Team Kawasaki's James Stewart ran the #1w at the season-ending Las Vegas Supercross, but his time in the Dave Coombs Sr. 125 East-West Shootout was limited. Stewart bobbled early in the race while in the lead, giving up several positions. As he tried to charge through the pack, he suffered a spectacular get-off just after the finish-line triple; his front end dropped and kept dropping, sending Bubba crashing to the ground.

According to a sorce close to Stewart, James suffered a broken clavicle and a mild concussion, and could be out of action for four to six weeks.

We won't spoil any more surprises about the main event - tune in to ABC's Wide World of Sports tomorrow afternoon (check your local listings) to catch their next-day coverage. And stay tuned to Racerxill.com for more updates as we get them.


Posted by: WideOpen---------------------



I guess browny will win the first couple nationals


Posted by: 01HondaCR---------------------

Or maybe Ryan Huges? Did anyone see motoworld? He said hes comming back and that hes hopping for top three's but now with Stewart gone who knows.


Posted by: Vic---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Senior KX Rider
Stewart injured


I'm surprised it took so long. Hopefully, that will be the worst injury he ever has and will be enough to cause him to chill just a little. He has enough ability to kill the competition without having to kill himself.


Posted by: Senior KX Rider---------------------

I hope it gives him something to think about. He does turn into a bit of a spaz when he gets a bad break. Thinks he has to get it all back in the next two turns. :confused:


Posted by: Earthpilot---------------------

I second the Ryan Hughes possibility, he is fast and ready to race outdoors,
Brown will be right there also.. no Stewart, Jesseman, Walker for the first few 125 rounds, it will be interesting. Stewart's crash was ugly, big endo and actually his second crash in the main... you know he won't ever run anything but #259 again!


Posted by: Lostrider---------------------

I wondered what the damage was.......never heard before the race was over. I saw him rocket out of the gate and my first thought was "He's gone" Next thing you see is him in the blocks and then launching off the bike. too bad.


Posted by: Buzz Bomb---------------------

When Stewart made the first little mistake and lost 1st, I knew he was going to make more mistakes in the process of trying to get 1st place back. In 10 seconds he was down for good. It wasn't pretty.


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Tough crowd! Obviously, he's prone to mistakes, look at all the silly crashes he experienced during the season ... :silly:


Posted by: Senior KX Rider---------------------

Didn't see many this year in SX but there were some last year RC was the same his first year in 250 SX. I don't fault Bubba, he is learning


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Oh.. now we're talking about last year? LOL.

RC has bobbled, crashed and fell-over more than Bubba THIS year. :thumb:


Posted by: 326mx---------------------

But he has raced more too. I'm not defending Ricky I just think it may be unfair to compare the two.


Posted by: portish---------------------

i read on racerx that chad reed dedicated his vegas win to james stewart, whats up with that? i thought he hated stewart. was he making fun of stewarts crash or what?


Posted by: Roostmaker---------------------

Who knows? I don't think Reed as forgotten the embarressment Bubba gave him in the nationals last year.....


Posted by: Patman---------------------

OR maybe he really felt for Bubba and was being a true sportsman? I think they both REALLY like the racing part and have not been in a position of protecting the #1 plate in the 250 class. But they race on a completly different plane so it's hard to speculate what they really mean when they say something like that.


Posted by: Roostmaker---------------------

I like Reed and hes currently my favorite rider but I really cant see that
statement being anything but sarcastic. Seriously, why would he donate his money
to a FACTORY SPONSERED rider?


Posted by: OldassKDX---------------------

I think it was a dedication, not a donation


Posted by: whitesands26---------------------

Yeah......Chad makes little comments here and there to try and belittle his competition and then masks his sarcasm with a slight hint of sincerity...In Dallas Ricky fell in the whoops in practice and after Chad's heat race he got on the podium and mentioned that he was disappointed that they made the whoops smaller.."someone falls in the whoops and they make them smaller, now there's no way to tell the men from the boys". He slips little comments like that here and there and unless you know what's going on you won't pick up on it.


Posted by: TheGrinch---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by portish
i read on racerx that chad reed dedicated his vegas win to james stewart, whats up with that? i thought he hated stewart. was he making fun of stewarts crash or what?


Chad makes a sincere comment for a fellow rider who went down hard during his race, wishes him well, and you guys think he is having a dig at him. Cripes, you guys are very sceptical.

By the way, where was Jesseman? Is he out injured as well?


Posted by: Senior KX Rider---------------------

Yes He is injured


Posted by: Jeepboy---------------------

I though Stewart said he was going to continue running #259 at SLC, anyone else remember that? Didn't he have a new helmet as Vegas too?


Posted by: BEEF706---------------------

ASctually I am not the biggest Reed fan, but I thought that the concern for Bubba sounded genuine. To me Reed sounds kind of cocky, but he likes the idea of everyone being healthy so he can beat 'em. That attitude I have to respect. (BTW, if I'm wrong and he is being sarcastic then all admiration is subject to recall)


Posted by: JMD---------------------

I think Reed was probably sincere. If he was trying to tell Bubba that he can now beat the best in the world (RC, up 'til now), I think that point was made after about three or four in a row.


Posted by: sirhk100---------------------

Is there a clip of Bubba's crash online anywhere? I saw it on TV yesterday but my friend missed it. Did anyone else think it looked like he was out cold?

Khris


Posted by: Patman---------------------

I think some folks may take what he says wrong because of his accent. Cripes have any of you ever sat down and had a beer with Kiwi? The guy is super funny but at first you don't know if he's being sharp tongued or sharp witted.

I don't think Bubba was out cold but it was pretty obvious he wasn't at the same place as everybody else! I imagine he looked a little like this :confused:


Posted by: MTC---------------------

http://www.xprdesigns.com/BubbaCrash.WMV - (from motodrive.com)


Posted by: dirt bike dave---------------------

Ouch.

MTC - thanks for the link!


Posted by: marcusgunby---------------------

I watched the clip a few times but still cant work out what went wrong, it looks like he was expecting it to rebound faster and just when he decides it wont rebound , it does??anyone else have any clue?


Posted by: Senior KX Rider---------------------

Looks to me like he spazzed out a bit and wadded it. :scream:


Posted by: Patman---------------------

It almost looks like he grabbed a bunch on rear brake and went a little too nose down.

Pretty much like Sr. said he spazzed out


Posted by: Kawidude---------------------

It looks like he thought it was a triple after the finish line jump and it turned out to be a double. You can see he leaned way forward right off the lip of the jump and then realized it would be a flat landing and bailed out over the bars. Very nasty.


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

why anyone finds it humorus, I'm not sure... that would have ended this old body's season.


Posted by: cladoo---------------------

He brain faded. It was a bonehead move and it probably cost him a Championship. He's young, he'll learn or he won't last!


Posted by: FMFHonda161---------------------

All i can say is OUCH! That was a horible crash!


Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

How many Nats do you think he'll have to miss NOT to win it? If there isn't one dominant rider in the 125's , he could probably miss a few and still win it.

Does he break all the records? Who knows... but IMHO, he's the best I've ever seen on a bike. At any rate, cut the kid some slack, he's 17!


Posted by: HiG4s---------------------

If he is out the possible 6 weeks he would miss 5 events. If he won every race left that would be 350 point for the season. Jesseman had more than that for second last year.


Posted by: Senior KX Rider---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Okiewan
At any rate, cut the kid some slack, he's 17!


Agreed, 17 year olds aren't known for always making good decisions. And for his age....I agree, he's the best on a bike that I recall But not above criticism


Posted by: Senior KX Rider---------------------

I think there is an off week between Mt Morris and the next round so he could possibly miss just 4 rounds.......still a HUGE points gap to overcome. Never been done before but ya never know


Posted by: MTC---------------------

From CycleNews.com

"Our initial report of James Stewart breaking his collarbone at the Las Vegas Supercross was correct. Despite the crash, where he broke his collarbone and got knocked out for a few minutes, Stewart attended the 2003 THQ World Supercross GP/AMA Supercross Series Awards Banquet Sunday night, May 4, with his right arm in a sling.

Stewart says he’s definitely going to sit out the first two rounds of the outdoor National Series. If someone in the 125cc class dominates those first two rounds at Glen Helen and Hangtown, he’ll try to make his return at High Point on May 24. Otherwise, he’ll skip High Point and shoot for Southwick on June 7."


Posted by: bclapham---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Patman
I think some folks may take what he says wrong because of his accent. Cripes have any of you ever sat down and had a beer with Kiwi? The guy is super funny but at first you don't know if he's being sharp tongued or sharp witted.


if you can remember that you sat down and had a beer with kiwi, your not doing bad in my book!

accents are a funny thing:

i was in ECC the other week looking at bikes, i was talking to the guy, he asked me "where are you from with that accent", "i am from the United Kingdom" i replied. He turned and said to me, "wow, your english is really good. How long have you spoken english?"


Posted by: 01HondaCR---------------------

Haha. Some people are idiots.


Posted by: nephron---------------------

...Correction. Most from North County are idiots, especially Escondildo... j/k

We were there. I want to say that Bubba's crash was one of the weirdest spectacles I saw all weekend, and remember--I was in Vegas.

These were definite truths of the event:

1) If you've never seen James ride in person, realize now that he is heads and tails above all others in SX. Bubba, then Reed, then RC (5/3 only--obviously cannot comment on other nights), in that order. I cannot possibly fathom the physics of his style. All others look like clods by comparison. He quadded the first rhythm section all night, and no 250 even attempted it.

2) James was flying effortlessly. This was followed by 2 prompt brainfarts, with the 1st sophmoric-appearing casing of the front side of a short table leap occuring immediately in front of Wayneo426 and I. It was truely bizarre. Why he 'suddenly' developed this apathy is unclear. You just had to be there. God bless the kid.

3) After James wrecked out, everyone was so awestruck, no one really cared about the race after that. Everyone in my locale was just worried about JBS, and in particular, everyone was postulating that he suffered the same fate as Tony Haines. There were horrified faces everywhere, and many tears. I kid you not. This was not helped by the fact that the jumbotron was apparently incapable of doing replays. :silly:

4) Yes, Carmichael's off his pace--but there's more. He was caught up with another rider for the first lap, during which Reed pulled a JBS, RC or MC--whatever you want to call it, CHECKING OUT and subsequently ending any chance of catching him SAFELY.
RC obviously pulled back and probably ran fast enough to match laptimes and nothing more. He raced it smart--no excuses--just smart. I think after his suboptimal start, he was just wanting the season over, so he could prepare mentally (starting that night) for the Nationals, where he will no doubt cream CR's ass like no tomorrow.

5) CR is an absolutely beautiful SX rider, and IMO unless RC steps it up next year (which he probably will--by virtue of will, testing, desire, and probably the development of new technique), CR will do very well. His style his really, really, really fun to watch. (No...really )

6) Some riders appear to be hauling ass, but getting nowhere. This was odd to me. Matthew Lalloz looked like he was flying, but was nowhere near as fast as say, Sellards or Tedesco. On the other hand, Short looked kinda droopy, but pulled better laptimes than Hot Sauce.


...other cool things...

I heard a big bore fire up while MC was giving a speech in the pits (talking about doing some motard)--and thought: 'wonder if Service Honda is here?' Yep, they were. And there was a spanking new AF sitting there as well--I would guess that was the source of my favorite sound. Campbell and Oelhoff looked great, too. Props to Service Honda/Subway.

Jamie is hot.

I didn't see Lusk, Pastrana, Tortelli or Ronron anywhere. I assumed they were preparing for the nationals.

Wow, my first supercross ever. My wife absolutely loved it. Absolutely loved it, although either the MR2 or (what smelled more like Nutec Pro MX) made her sick....


Posted by: Patman---------------------

Geez Okie chill out buddy, I don't think anyone is happy to see any rider crash like that. He's going to ride again. Nobody stuck a stick in his spokes or cut him off he completly did it on his own accord. Bubba has shown he is easily flustered in situations like that so it's not a huge suprise and he's not the first 16, 17 or 18 year old to turn pro nor to crash in a big way. Anybody remember a kid named Travis Pastrana? He still crashes his brains out from time to time doesn't he? RC pretty much followed that same path as well right? This is a sport of big dangers if you screw up just a little bit, it's also a sport where a rider with great skill turns pro at 16 or 17. Bubba's not the first nor the last in any of those.


Posted by: zcookie49---------------------

Exactly. Just like TP in a way being young and having extreme talent, sometimes they rush it... Just like how alot were talking that Bubba would cream everyone in the 250's next year... Not that he wont, but he has shown time and time again, indoors, that when he doesnt get the lead right away, he seems to panick and hurries up the pace at a blistering pace that he makes mistakes...If he heads into the 250sx next year with that mentality and faces a more talented bunch, I would wager we would see him crash out often...Outdoors, that is a different story, that wild, off the edge riding is more suited... IMO....


Posted by: Jon K.---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by marcusgunby
I watched the clip a few times but still cant work out what went wrong, anyone else have any clue?


Has Bubba said anything? Looked like he might have been "between" gears. Maybe. He pulled mightily on the bars, but to no avail. He knew he was screwed, but he had the presence of mind to bail. Had he tried to ride it out, it could have been worse. Maybe.

What kind of magic would allow him to come back for the 24th of May. Break clavical on May 3rd; race again on May 24th for High Point. Three weeks. Impossible in my book.

I have heard stories all my life about people racing with broken clavicals. Bullstuff. I always figured if a guy could race; then it wasn't really broken in the first place. I have had three; so I know a little about such matters.

Nephron; would you know? Is there some magic out there?


Posted by: Ol'89r---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by wfo74

What kind of magic would allow him to come back for the 24th of May. Break clavical on May 3rd; race again on May 24th for High Point. Three weeks. Impossible in my book.


Dr. Arthur Ting. :thumb:


Posted by: flynbryan---------------------

Its always blown my mind as well. I was out 5months w/a broken collarbone. Granted it was a 2 fracture break, but anyone remeber when Windham broke his collarbone at the 99 Dallas race, then came back for the first national something like 3weeks later? Unbelievable! All I can say is they must have them on a massive local injection.


Posted by: Patman---------------------

Like '89er said Dr. Ting! I believe there was an interview with him in one of the rags recently as well.


Posted by: Smit-Dog---------------------

A collarbone break can mean anything from a slight line fracture, to multiple breaks, jagged ends that don't touch, loose, floating bone fragments, and tendon / nerve damage. I had the latter, and was out 3 months (and then back riding slowly!).

Being 17 is a huge advantage as far as the bone being able to grow back quickly, but the type of break can determine whether it's going to be 3-4 weeks out, or 3-6 months out.


Posted by: oldguy---------------------

Actually last year thekid broke his collarbone and at 3 weeks the dr said it had knitted together but strongly advised to give another 2- 3 weeks to make sure.
I guess if he had a major $$$ bonus from winning a series on the line he could have ridden


Posted by: Senior KX Rider---------------------

Looks like Langston thinks that he could build an insurmountable points lead with Bubba out for 3 rounds.

racerx

May 7, 2003

Grant Langston switches to the 125 class

Team Red Bull KTM just doubled down on their chances of winning the 2003 AMA/Chevy Trucks U.S. National Motocross Championship in the 125 class by giving Grant Langston the go-ahead to switch classes.

"I got a call at two this morning from Kurt Nicoll giving me the okay," said Langston when he phoned the Racer X office this morning. The former 125cc World MX Champion has suffered through injuries during the last year and half. "I have to tell you, with Bubba out now, the 125 class is wide open, and I really think I can clean up in that class. I told Kurt last night I needed to know as soon as possible so I could begin preparing this morning, and after they all talked it over, he said to go ahead and get a 125 ready for me."

Langston came within three laps of winning the 2001 title from Mike Brown, but suffered collapsed wheel near the end of the final moto of the season at Steel City. Langston was originally set to ride the KTM 250SX outdoors, but now must be added to the list of title favorites in the 125 class, which includes the veterans Brown and Red Bull KTM teammate Ryan Hughes, as well as a long list of 125cc up-and-comers.


Posted by: Senior KX Rider---------------------

You know that Brown is thinking the same thing BUT if they get enough people fighting over those points the lead may not be so big that Bubba can't overcome it


Posted by: Kawidude---------------------

Does that seem like a chicken move to anyone else? Wouldn't a 125 title mean more to Langston if he came out and actually beat Bubba for an entire series? I like Langston and Bubba, and I'm sure Langston will take the title either way (if he wins it), but it seems a little shady to me.


Posted by: Senior KX Rider---------------------

Its going to be a GREAT year in the 125 class :thumb:


Posted by: MTC---------------------

Maybe Langston will ride KTM's new 4-stroke? Probably not, but stranger thinks have happened.


Posted by: Patman---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Kawidude
Does that seem like a chicken move to anyone else? Wouldn't a 125 title mean more to Langston if he came out and actually beat Bubba for an entire series? I like Langston and Bubba, and I'm sure Langston will take the title either way (if he wins it), but it seems a little shady to me.

That #1 plate would be something KTM would be VERY happy to have so I'm sure they would be pretty happy with Grant especially considering it's a lot better than a mid top 10 finish in the 250 class.


Posted by: motochic---------------------

Are you guys sure Ryan's coming back? I'd love to see him out there racing again! Do you know if there's an article on any website about it? Thanks-


Posted by: Kawidude---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Patman
That #1 plate would be something KTM would be VERY happy to have so I'm sure they would be pretty happy with Grant especially considering it's a lot better than a mid top 10 finish in the 250 class.


Yep, I don't doubt that. I guess maybe Grant is due a little good Karma after his rear wheel blew up.


Posted by: dirt bike dave---------------------

After the way Langston took out Bobby Bonds at Hangtown '01, he might still be in a hole as far as karma is concerned.


Posted by: marcusgunby---------------------

I think Grant is right to switch to the 125-i believe the 250 is the sporn of the devil, as no rider seems to do well on them, this includes Dobb,Crockard,McGrath.They have too much motor and not enough suspension/handling finess.


Posted by: zcookie49---------------------

racer x reports that the DR installed a metal plate for his broken clavicle, still shooting at 4- 6 weeks...


Posted by: Kawidude---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by dirt bike dave
After the way Langston took out Bobby Bonds at Hangtown '01, he might still be in a hole as far as karma is concerned.


Oh yeah, I was there and I remember that happening too. Okay, maybe he's even right now in the karma department.


Posted by: nephron---------------------

Quote:
I really think I can clean up in that class

Not only are those big words, but how could he say that in light of Rhyno being on the same team? Weird.


Posted by: bclapham---------------------

i watched ryno on that 125sx at the world cup GH race. he wasnt that far behind Dubach on the 450f!


Posted by: HiG4s---------------------

Preston should stick with 125, I think he would be able to get several 1st without Bubba there, even with Langston back on a 125.


Posted by: angry jim---------------------

HiG4,
I disagree about Preston. He did poorly last year in the nationals. He is way too big for the bike. In the nationals power to weight ratio is more important than in SX because of the long straights and big hills on most tracks. Plus, Preston looks good on the 450.


Posted by: TheGrinch---------------------

I have to agree with angy jim. Preston performed poorly in the outdoors last season. I think he would do better on the 450F. I like Preston but I think he is better at Supercross than he is outdoors.


Posted by: Tony Williams---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by bclapham
i was in ECC the other week looking at bikes, i was talking to the guy, he asked me "where are you from with that accent", "i am from the United Kingdom" i replied. He turned and said to me, "wow, your english is really good. How long have you spoken english?"


I like telling 'em that I was born in London. So they'll tell me "I don't sound like it". Uh, I've been in the U.S. a very long time....

Gotta practice on my motherland accent :confused:


Posted by: HiG4s---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by angry jim
HiG4,
I disagree about Preston. He did poorly last year in the nationals. He is way too big for the bike. In the nationals power to weight ratio is more important than in SX because of the long straights and big hills on most tracks. Plus, Preston looks good on the 450.




I think the key is torque, not HP and while Preston is too big for the CR125 I thought Honda was going to be running the pre-production CRF250 outdoors? Preston would fit it much better than a 125. And while Preston does look good on a 450, I'm sure Honda would rather take a chance on first in the 250 class and a first int the 125 class than a first and a third or forth in the 250 class. If anyone has a good shot it would be Preston in my opinion because Bubba would have to continually be thinking about how Preston took the SX title because of crashing and now has a chance to do it again outdoors, and unfortunatly, when Bubba thinks he crashes more.



Text Version Home





vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
vB Easy Archive Final ©2000 - 2009 - Created by Stefan "Xenon" Kaeser