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Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

I've sold a ton of bikes, cars, Jeeps, etc. in my life, but I'm always astounded by the number of people who try to lowball me with some ridiculous offer.

I just had a guy tell me that he's going to pay $3900 for an '04 XR250, but he'll give me $3900 for my '03 WR250F instead. Then he pulled the "call me if you change your mind" BS on me. What a joke.

I hope you enjoy riding your new XR250. :thumb:


Posted by: Patman---------------------

I enjoy riding mine


Posted by: jaction125---------------------

I did that when I bought my streetbike, offered 3k for a 5k bike and got it.
Sometimes people are hard up for money. But that is not how I normally do it.


Posted by: Treejumper---------------------

LOL, i'll give you a buck a CC on your fiddy!


Posted by: Dapper---------------------

Sounds like a deal. NOT!
Danm the Lowballers


Posted by: Treejumper---------------------

Low balls are great as it means they usually have been spent. Sometimes they get hung up on things since they tend to be Low but usually not a problem.


Posted by: gwcrim---------------------

Hey.... it doesn't hurt to make an offer. A buyer can save BIG bucks by low balling, as you call it. What if you needed $3900 tomorrow to keep the bank from reposessing your car and this guy was your only offer?

I sold cars for a few years just to get the education. It's a tough world out there and learning some negotiating skills sure can help.

When I advertise something for sale, I always ask top dollar. I might get it. And if I don't I can always lower the price during negotiations. But ya sure can't raise it.


Posted by: mx547---------------------

i always tell them, "make me an offer but don't insult me." that usually gets the message across.


Posted by: Green Horn---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Tree jumper
Low balls are great as it means they usually have been spent. Sometimes they get hung up on things since they tend to be Low but usually not a problem.


Yep, I've been a Lowballer on numerous occassions.


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

I've already lowered my price three times. The lowball guy knows that, and he still tried to knock another $200 off my price.

I don't mind a lowball offer. I've insulted a few people in my time.


Posted by: nikki---------------------

How much is your asking price, JP? $3,900 for a one year old used 2-owner bike doesn't seem too terrible to me when I saw a place selling brand new '04 WR's on cycletrader for $5,000.


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

I'm down to $4100. That $5000 WR is in Washington state. Tack on another $200 for shipping. Plus factor in the unknowns, and my bike seems like a deal. There are no cheap '03s in this part of the world. I've looked. Plus, the owner before me put 12 miles on the bike. He doesn't even count.

I met a local guy recently who paid $4400 for an '02. No way am I giving mine away for $3900. I'll keep it until I die if I can't get $4100.


Posted by: Endless Mike---------------------

Just wondering,
You just got an 03 WR250f, had an 01 YZ250f, and a KTM, and money troubles, why are you buying all these new bikes just to sell them again?


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

Who said anything about money troubles? It's the women - THE WIMMMEN!!!!


Posted by: James---------------------

I'll give you $3000 for it.

You deliver right??

:confused:


Posted by: Endless Mike---------------------

Damn them

Anyway an 03WR250 should fly out of your hands ar $4100, so I wouldnt get too hung up on it


Posted by: DougRoost---------------------

If I could get a brand new WR250F for $5200, with factory warranty, vs. a one year old one for $4400, I'd buy the new one for sure. The woodruf key issue, new tires, chain, etc., not to mention the mechanical liability of that 5 titanium valved engine are just too high to not do that.

Then again, I'll bet yours has some aftermarket goodies that make it more attractive. Yet I'm sure you know you rarely get your money back on those. Which is why you should probably put it back to stock and sell the goodies separately. Then it's apples-apples comparison. After all, we're only talking $200, which you could probably sell an aftermarket muffler alone for.

Seems to me this is a pretty weak flame -- you've even admitted you've insulted sellers in the past!


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

See if that $5200 WR is a reality. I'm willing to bet that it's not. There are always little catches like "OOPS! That was a misprint!" Plus, you're going to lose big $ by buying a new '03 for $500 less than a new '04.

I know the value of my bike, and I'm no novice in the sales arena. The flame is all about a goober who called and offered me $200 less than my bottom dollar, then said "Call me if you change your mind."


Posted by: truespode---------------------

JP... no promises but if you still have it in January I'll be calling.

Ivan


Posted by: Green Horn---------------------

A couple years ago I went with a friend to look at a used YZ 250. It was an '86 with spooge dripping out of the pipe and all over the frame. Clutch lever was busted off. The top motor mount bolt was so loose you could see it "chattering" as the engine was running. The front break assy. I was told "is in a box over there in the garage.". LOL The guy said he wanted $1300 for it and was pretty firm. I told my friend that I wouldn't give the guy more than $300 for it. My friend offered the 300 and the guy looked to be very insulted. Do you still hate me for being a Lowballer, JP?? Or my other question is...Did you ever live in the DFW area and try to sell an '86 YZ? :confused:


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

I wouldn't ask $1300 for a $300 bike.

I've never lived in Texas. I heard that the great state had already reached maximum a$$hole capacity, so I'm staying here.


Posted by: mx547---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Julius Pleaser
The flame is all about a goober who called and offered me $200 less than my bottom dollar, then said "Call me if you change your mind."


i think i know that guy. he calls almost every time i have something for sale.


Posted by: Green Horn---------------------

Yeah I figgered. I was just funnin' ya MrPleezer.


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

Thanks, Ivan! :thumb:


Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Julius Pleaser
The flame is all about a goober who called and offered me $200 less than my bottom dollar, then said "Call me if you change your mind."

Hell, $200 is my standard highball offer!


Posted by: BunduBasher---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Julius Pleaser
I wouldn't ask $1300 for a $300 bike.

I've never lived in Texas. I heard that the great state had already reached maximum a$$hole capacity, so I'm staying here.


Yeah, they topped out when I arrived

Low Ballers give me heartburn, when I was out of a job, I had to sell Jonathans 01 JR80. This guys comes to the house, I was asking $1350 (less than it was really worth!), the amount to cover my mortgage. The guy checks the bike, gives his kid a spin, and the hauls out $1200 - what could I do - mo-fo's

 




Posted by: fishhead---------------------

My favorite is when they call and say "what"s your bottom dollar" before they even look at it. I say I think it's sold and they have to ask how much so I tell em full price.


Posted by: CR Swade---------------------

Man, if all we are talking about is $200...that is not a grotesque low-ball. Geez, if he had offered $1K under your price, that is a BS offer worthy of flame. After having to liquidate a bunch of bikes and stuff, not only from myself, but my kids gear and bikes too...well $200 seems petty (sorry man). The Katoom was new (03 525) w/ close to $1700 worth of goodies, plus the boys bikes were both less than 1 year old each. Hell , most recently I lost $300 on the WR pig (450) after owning it for 2 f-ing weeks. I probably would've paid twice that to remove that warthog of a bike from my garage. Oh yeah I bought it for $4200...seems nobody wanted to take on the risky proposition that is the 03 WR. After $300 shipping, 4500 gross. I sold it for $4400 two weeks later (right after DW).

What's the lesson boys and girls, if the bike is one you like and don't need to sell it...don't sell it, then you won't have to worry about not getting what you think it is worth. If it is a matter of urgency or desperation, sell it for anything w/in 10-15% of your asking price and be glad somebody bailed you out.

Lastly, regardless of what the sellers thinks its worth, the buyers will always ultimately set the worth overall.


Posted by: Camstyn---------------------

My personal favorite way of selling a bike is using that e-auction site, whatever it's called.. Start at $1 with no reserve, 10 days. You know somebody will buy the bike in ten days and you'll probably get more for it than the guys that set reserve prices or start at their rock-bottom price. You get to walk away knowing that you sold it for what it was really worth, and somebody gets a good deal in their mind as well (if not, they shouldn't have bid).

I had my KX250 for sale locally forever.. The deal on my new bike was pending the sale of the old one so it was a great way to flip it fast and get a decent dollar for it.


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

I started at $4500, and dropped my price twice. $600 is a bigger hit than I'm willing to take. It's not about the money. It's the principle.

I'm going to advertise the bike locally. I'm 90% sure that I can get $4500 for it. I'm 100% sure that I can get $4300 for it. I'm not desperate. I haven't allowed myself to be in a position to let someone screw me. I know what my bike is worth to me, and that's what I'll get for it.

In the immortal words of Holden McGroin (world-famous used car salesman and raconteur) :

"There's an ass for every seat."


Posted by: Enduro_Nut---------------------

It's amazing - there are several '03 KTM 450's in Dallas for $4 -$4.5, two of the bikes were almost new! It's tough right now in this area.


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

Yeah, prices are low these days. I figured I would get no play on this bike, but I'm happy with the response so far. I'm getting a lot of inquiries from people all over the country at $4300, but nobody wants to pay shipping.


Posted by: Enduro_Nut---------------------

Shipping is only about $200 + crate. I shipped a bike(small) from Michigan for $150.
That's not bad, people will always sqauble though!


Posted by: Jaybird---------------------

I only have one question....
Did you write down his phone number?




(shakin' head)


Posted by: holmy---------------------

After looking at the blue book his offer don't look that insulting to me. If you don't like the offer,don't sell it.


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

I'll bite, Jay. Why the head shake?


Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

maybe Jaybird needs a steering damper?


Posted by: Ol'89r---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Tree jumper
LOL, i'll give you a buck a CC on your fiddy!


:scream: Dang, that's a pretty low ball price for JP's fiddy. :confused: I'll go as high as $1.50 a CC. JP, is that a 50CC fiddy or a 88CC fiddy? If it's an 88CC, I may have to get a loan.


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

It's an 82cc. I can finance with $500 down. Payments will be $27 per month for 144 months.


Posted by: nikki---------------------

LOL - good one pred!

Damn JP... flamin over $200... thats like a nice seafood dinner. Or a used pair of Tech 8's. Or 2 hours with a cheap callgirl. :silly:


Quote:
Originally posted by Julius Pleaser
It's an 82cc. I can finance with $500 down. Payments will be $27 per month for 144 months.


Hmmm... $4,388...

Ya know what I hate.... highballers!


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by nikki
$200... thats like a nice seafood dinner. Or a used pair of Tech 8's. Or 2 hours with a cheap callgirl. :silly:
That's my point. I'm not going to give my bike away and be denied a couple hours with a cheap hooker.


Posted by: nikki---------------------

Man... and remind me not to make an offer on any of your stuff....

In September '98, I remember offering a guy $2,900 for a '98 RM 125. The bike was $5,300 new and easily had $1,000 of toys (exhaust, suspension, motor mods, bars, adjustable clutch, aluminum throttle tube, frame guards, new tires, new chain/sprockets, gripper seat, etc.) and he said YES! Thats a $3,400 loss he took for a bike not even a year old! Must have been my smile


Posted by: Ol'89r---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Julius Pleaser
It's an 82cc. I can finance with $500 down. Payments will be $27 per month for 144 months.


YIKES! :scream: It's a good thing it's not a 4fiddy. I would have to sell my house.

I'm starting to see a pattern here.


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

Yeah, that was it. :confused:

Some people are born to lose money. Other people are born to lose LOTS of money. I prefer to keep as much of mine as possible. There aren't as many bikes in this part of the world as there are in the Midwest, so they tend to keep their value for a year or so. If my bike was 6 months older, I'd take $3900 for it. It's an '03, and it's still 2003. I looked for a new one locally, and the best price I found was $5600 otd. There is a 2002 YZ250F in todays news for $4200. He'll get close to that just because of the local market. There is also an '03 YZ450F in the same paper for $4900.

You have to take into account the fact that local dealers bend everyone over. I know I can get what I want for my WR, and I'm not going to take less just because someone thinks I'm desperate.


Posted by: gxdragon---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by nikki
2 hours with a cheap callgirl. :silly:


2 Hours! What are you gonna do for 2 hours?

How much for 2 minutes?


Posted by: Treejumper---------------------

JP lowballed some guy on a case of little blue pills, so there is nothing stopping him from going 2 full hours.


Posted by: Erick82---------------------

If the best offer you have gotten is $3,900, how is that a lowball when you are only asking $4,100?

I only pay $200 for the whole night around where I live and that includes cleaning my bike and doing my dishes.


Posted by: Treejumper---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Erick82
I only pay $200 for the whole night around where I live and that includes cleaning my bike and doing my dishes.


Your wife doesnt count.


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Erick82
If the best offer you have gotten is $3,900, how is that a lowball when you are only asking $4,100?

I only pay $200 for the whole night around where I live and that includes cleaning my bike and doing my dishes.
Read the other posts before you start asking questions. :silly: I started at $4500, and I already dropped the price twice. I've had lots of interest at $4300, but nobody wants to pay shipping.

Again, it's not about the price. It's the way the guy approached me. He called, told me he would pay $3900, then told me to call him when I changed my mind. That's just rude. If he had said that his kids were starving and he could only afford $3900, maybe I would have caved. If he had offered me drinks and dinner, maybe I would have caved. The guy didn't even offer me a reach-around.


Posted by: Jeff Gilbert---------------------

Why would anyone want to pay so much for his used fiddy? Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't it been in a fire???


Posted by: truespode---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Julius Pleaser
If he had offered me drinks and dinner, maybe I would have caved. The guy didn't even offer me a reach-around.


I'd give you Pepsi and a Pizza? No reach around... I'm too busy with myself

Ivan


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Jeff Gilbert
Why would anyone want to pay so much for his used fiddy? Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't it been in a fire???
That was the "other" DRN fitty. Big Lou rode his through the fire at Dirtweek. Aimee can fill you in on the details.

BAD LOU! BAAADDDD LOU!

Ivan - I don't drink Pepsi. How about a Coke?


Posted by: Moto Squid---------------------

ya that e-auction place is kinda crappy...low-ballers up the If my old bike doesn't sell I'll just have to wait 'till spring when more ppl will bite on a very reasonable price.

what's worse than a low-baller is the guy that wants to trade you for one of those 4 wheeel'd icky things


Posted by: CR Swade---------------------

Low-ballers, high-ballers, goin' commando free-ballers, viagra laden hooker sessions...when will the zaniness stop?


Posted by: Jaybird---------------------

JP,
You say these bikes are "going for" a certain amount....
In you market analysis, how many of these bikes actually "went" for the prices you have been seeing?

Why did you lower your price in the first place? A buyer has to also wonder this same question. It's obvious you wern't at your bottom dollar, since you didlower it, and there must be a bottom to your offering.
How is a man gonna find out where that bottom is without offering?

Should I pay you $200 more than I would with a bit of "haggling" also called "lowballing" by some, just on principle alone....especially since you've already shown a prepensity to go off your original pricing?

It's the way of the free market in all the western world.

I only shook my head becasue this flame is kinda silly. Not really worth a flame.
AND because I have my forks a bit high in the clamps.



Posted by: truespode---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Julius Pleaser

Ivan - I don't drink Pepsi. How about a Coke?


Deal!

Jaybird, I see Pleaser's point. It is not that he offered $200 less, it is the way he offered it as if Pleaser should be thankful that anyone made an offer at all. Everyone knows if the seller is motivated enough he will go lower but you do not have to insult the seller by saying "call me when you change your mind."

Then again, I know Pleaser and know how laid back he is so I have a picture in my mind how it all played out so I might be just a little biased

Ivan


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

Thanks, Ivan. Some people just don't get it.

Jay, this has all been happening on a different board. I dropped my price twice. Lowball guy knew that. He also knew that I said I was "firm" at $4100.

There has been no market for the 03 WR250F as yet. I'm trying to set a precedent. I'm sure that if I stick to my price, all the rest of the 2003 WR250F owners will appreciate it.

As far as silliness is concerned. . .well, silliness is my forte'. I like to have fun even when people piss me off. I have zero responibilities in my life, and zero problems, so I rarely feel the need to act like a crusty, pissed off old man who grooves on screwing with people just for the hell of it.


Posted by: Ol'89r---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Julius Pleaser
so I rarely feel the need to act like a crusty, pissed off old man who grooves on screwing with people just for the hell of it.


HEY! What the hell did ya mean by that?? :scream:

JP. Call me if you change your mind.


Posted by: murcada---------------------

I know this isnt exactly comparing apples to apples but consider the fact that I could buy Destry Abbotts '03 KX500 race bike with a crap load of mods and extra's for a mere $4700. Thats $300 less than a brand new bike for a 10k plus race bike. I guess what Im saying is quite whining about the damn 200 bucks because $3900 for a plain jane wr250 is more than reasonable.


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

Thanks for that valuable insight, murcada. You obviously have an excellent understanding of MY local market. Nobody in my part of the world would take a second look at Destry's beater race bike.

If you had bothered to read the thread before posting, you'd know that $3900 for my bike is $600 less than my asking price. Get a clue.


Posted by: jmics19067---------------------

nothing has any value until someone wants to give you something for it.

so what we have here is JP holding his bike at a higher value then what one person offerred.

JP I am happy that you are in a position where you don't need to sell your bike and you can command what you want for it but it is apparant that it is not a must have thing in your local economics otherwise it would have been gone already.

food for thought though, when is the phone calls and having to deal with lowballers going to be worth the 200$?Since I don't sell things for money I sell things to get rid of them it wouldnt take me long for the 200$ to be moot point compared to gettin it out of my garage.Freeing up the space I held more dear than the item I wanted to sell. Also if you set on the bike too long waiting for your ideal buyer it is only going to loose value due to age.

I hope you get what you want but I am not interested in the 250 if you have a wr 450 street legaled I will low ball you then.


Posted by: James---------------------

My guess is that Ivan and I will be going to pick it up in January...problem solved.

All of this talk has me thinking I need to sell my 02 CR....$3900.........anybody??


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

The flame isn't about the money. It's about the guy's attitude. Jeez, how many times do I have to say that? :silly:

Like I said earlier, I've had 5 offers from people out of state, but they found that shipping is too expensive. Everybody else that has inquired thought it was a great price. Lowball guy is the only one that has given me any crap about my price.

I haven't even tried to sell it locally. It's only been for sale beyond DRN for a week or two.


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by James
All of this talk has me thinking I need to sell my 02 CR....$3900.........anybody??
I'll give you $2700. Call me when you change your mind.


Posted by: MrLuckey---------------------

Alright already, I'll give you $3700. You got my number JP


Posted by: Senior KX Rider---------------------

When you resign yourself to the fact that you have to sell for $3900 don't sell it to that low-life. Call me I'll only make you pay half the shipping


Posted by: James---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Julius Pleaser
I'll give you $2700. Call me when you change your mind.


NOW THAT IS A "LOWBALL"!!!

If you would have offered me $600 less than my asking price...I would have probably let you have it.....but $1200 is just rude :confused:

You must be used to buying and selling jeeps or something :thumb:

<<off to post "LOWBALLERS 2" flame thread>>


Posted by: jmics19067---------------------

Quote:
The flame isn't about the money. It's about the guy's attitude. Jeez, how many times do I have to say that?



oops my bad in that case I wouldn't care if the guy walked up on his hands talking out his if the price was good enough I would still get rid of it for the reason I wanted to get rid of it . I do believe you should have every right not sell to somebody just because you dont like their hairstyle . the guy wanted walk up thinking he was going to play hard ball , well his loss but no gain for you.


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

It will be at least a $200 gain for me in the end.

I think I'll place it in the local fishwrapper for $4900.


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by James


NOW THAT IS A "LOWBALL"!!!

If you would have offered me $600 less than my asking price...I would have probably let you have it.....but $1200 is just rude :confused:
How many CR250s do you own? :scream:

Lowball sent me an email to let me know that his offer still stands.


Posted by: James---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Julius Pleaser
How many CR250s do you own? :scream:

Lowball sent me an email to let me know that his offer still stands.


I only admit to three

Did you tell Lowball that we got his back??


Posted by: MrLuckey---------------------

JP - If you would just go ahead and advertise it for $5500 then you could let him lowball you @ $4900 and you'd both be happy :confused:


Posted by: truespode---------------------

I bet if you advertise in the local fishwrapper you'll get close to that for it.

Ivan


Posted by: James---------------------

The ones listed in cycle trader range from $4200-$5800...with only ONE of them being below $4900.

We better go get it now Ivan!!


Posted by: zcookie49---------------------

I thought Lowballers were what happened to old men who wore boxer shorts their whole lives...
JP, what is your next ride gonna be, if I missed it mentioned above.
"Hey YA!" :thumb:


Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

I know a Lowballer like that, zcookie. His name is Doodles.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPH!!!


Posted by: Solid State---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Julius Pleaser
I have zero responibilities in my life, and zero problems..


I can honestly say that I could never have made that statement at any time in my life!!!


Posted by: Rich Rohrich---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by murcada
Thats $300 less than a brand new bike for a 10k plus race bike.


If you actually think his bike was ever worth $10,000 you should put down the crack pipe and get into rehab.


Posted by: Jeff Gilbert---------------------

JP, It wouldn't suprise me if the "lowballer dude" shows up and offers your asking price. The fact that he emailed you makes me think there's more of an intrest on his part than he's letting on. Anyone else agree with me?


Posted by: Endless Mike---------------------

Fo sho' :D

He is definetly still interested.


Posted by: murcada---------------------

Well lets see... 5k for a new bike, plus motor mods, wheels, suspension, bars, exhaust, customizing the frame with guards, clutch arm etc, new plastic and graphics, triple clamps, plus all the extra stuff that goes with the bike: I would say to you that if you dont think that total is around 10 grand your the one that needs to put down the crack pipe.


Posted by: BSWIFT---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Jeff Gilbert
JP, It wouldn't suprise me if the "lowballer dude" shows up and offers your asking price. The fact that he emailed you makes me think there's more of an intrest on his part than he's letting on. Anyone else agree with me?


Not only that, use the reverse psyhcology on him.&nbsp; "Well, this guy just has to get his wife to sign the loan at $4400 on Monday.&nbsp; $4250 now and I'll tell the guy the bike was stolen, Sunday evening."


Posted by: CR Swade---------------------

Yanno, alot o' folks are forgetting one thing here...if you are selling or buying, the WORSE thing you can do is get emotional. Nixing a deal based on principal over how the offer/counter offer plays out takes money out your hand. JP already said if freeballer had handled it differently, he probably would have taken it. To each their own, but I'd rather have cash in hand if I don't want the bike.

Conversely, if you are buying, emotion will make you do some silly things...like paying way too much for a clapped out sled b/c it had a famous lineage.

Fact is this, keep emotion out of selling. Keeps the hard feelings quelled, flickering flames aren't streched out for umpteen pages and the dirtbike world keeps turning. :thumb:


Posted by: CR Swade---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by murcada
Well lets see... 5k for a new bike, plus motor mods, wheels, suspension, bars, exhaust, customizing the frame with guards, clutch arm etc, new plastic and graphics, triple clamps, plus all the extra stuff that goes with the bike: I would say to you that if you dont think that total is around 10 grand your the one that needs to put down the crack pipe.


Wow have I got a deal for you should run you right around 10-11K, plus Watts and Lafferty have personally , um well they have been in spitting distance of the bike anyway.

BTW, if you have ever seen a pro off-roaders bike after they spend any time on it, you would be wise to steer clear of it like a kitty keeping clear of Lou on a lonely night.


Posted by: murcada---------------------

Since I appear to lose every argument I present let me just say....LOWBALLERS SUCK A$$!!!!! and be done with it. Also, Rich Rohrich
is a evil little arrogant troll. Too bad I dont have access to those annoying little emoticons everyone loves to plaster their posts with since you wont know whether I'm joking or serious or feel like mooning you.


Posted by: Rich Rohrich---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by murcada
Too bad I dont have access to those annoying little emoticons everyone loves to plaster their posts with since you wont know whether I'm joking or serious or feel like mooning you.


With or without the or :scream: you still wouldn't have a clue.


I'll try my best to sleep tonight knowing full well I've failed to meet your HIGH expectations. :confused:


Posted by: Jeff Gilbert---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by CR Swade
BTW, if you have ever seen a pro off-roaders bike after they spend any time on it, you would be wise to steer clear of it like a kitty keeping clear of Lou on a lonely night.

Ya know, I agree with you about 50%. I've seen pro's "old bikes" that were in the best shape a used bike could ever be in. Better than out of the box condition, with all the extra stuff on it. I have also seen pro's bikes that the chain was all rusted, crap bent and broken and air filters that they were too lazt to clean. I can't imagine how a pro could expect to compete on some of the bikes I've seen, I guess the ones in good condition were the ones where there was a mechanic and some serious support backing them up.

That post reminds me of reading bike for sale ads that say "never raced ". In some cases a bike that's been raced is the kind of used bike to buy, they are usually maintained better because of safety and performance issues over a bike that was "trail ridden' by a 14 year old that doesn't have a clue when it comes to prevenitive maintenance. On the other hand a bike that someone bought and never raced and are selling due to lack of interest or injury can sometimes be a steal. It comes down to using your better judgement when it comes to buying a used bike.

I guess in all honesty when I sell my bike I can say "for sale, only ridden on Sundays by a little old man Kind of like buying a used car from a little old blue haired lady that only drove on Sundays to church


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

I really hope the guy steps up. If he does, one day he'll look back and know that he almost screwed himself out of a great deal for $200.

Swade, I would have turned down $3900 regardless, but I would have offered to drive halfway to Atlanta for $4100. I might have even thrown in some extras, just cuz I'm such a swell guy. I'm serious about upping my price, too. $4100 seems way too cheap now.

zcookie, I really don't know what I want next. I'm leaning toward a YZ450F, but maybe I'll shop used $10,000 KX500's too. Have you seen any for sale?


Posted by: CR Swade---------------------

Well, yeah you are a swell guy, hope you get all you want for the bike. The good guys shouldn't have to take a beating when it comes to this stuff. Good luck brutha and for pete's sake, lets all spare the kitties...


Posted by: dirty~d~---------------------

Quote:
As Said By JP
The flame isn't about the money. It's about the guy's attitude. Jeez, how many times do I have to say that?


So, you only care about the money? You're such a donkey, Mr. Pleaser.


Posted by: murcada---------------------

Whats all this clueless BS? All I said was 3900 for a wr250 was reasonable. Then I told whats his face to stop whining. I think he was whining, thats my opinion. Then the evil troll tells me I do drugs. Calling me clueless is fine by me but suggesting I do drugs is not. Thats slander buddy boy.

By the way, take a look at that picture of Rohrich in Eric Gorrs book. The one where he is standing behind a LOWERED yz426. It only had 8 inches of travel but the seat STILL came up to his man teets. He must be like 3 feet tall. Very troll like, I thought. Then there is his nasty troll demeanor. An awful one or two line response and then he's back to the sock drawer. Thats where the troll lives, you know. He lives In Eric Gorrs sock drawer. Thats where he goes to formulate his next awful one liner, specifically designed to denigrate someone to make himself feel more important. Nasty little troll. Thats a bad troll, bad!


Posted by: Jaybird---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Julius Pleaser
...As far as silliness is concerned. . .well, silliness is my forte'. I like to have fun even when people piss me off. I have zero responibilities in my life, and zero problems, so I rarely feel the need to act like a crusty, pissed off old man who grooves on screwing with people just for the hell of it.


Is that directed at moi?&nbsp;&nbsp;


Posted by: Senior KX Rider---------------------

I'm getting so confused :confused:


Posted by: motometal---------------------

how ironic...i'd be happy just to have THE OPPORTUNITY to turn down an offer on my shiny '01 CR250.&nbsp; It has been advertised late summer and fall in several places, has sat down at the local riding area with a sign on it, I have lowered the price several times, I forget now what i'm even asking for it...$2700?&nbsp; Not even one call!&nbsp; Not even one "that's not what I'm looking for " or "I want it but my dad won't cosign" or "I want a four stroke because everyone says they are cool" call.

Whatever...James, if you get 3900 for your '02 let me know....I need to move to your area to sell mine then.

I once sold a KZ700...this was like an early crotch rocket without all the plastic fairings...very cool bike, and rare because they only made them one year.&nbsp; Mine was in awesome shape with low miles.&nbsp; All I could get was this one guy who totally low balled me, wrote $1000 on his bus. card and left it.&nbsp; A few weeks later, I picked the crumpled up card up off the floor and sold it to him.&nbsp; I found out that a day later all of the body work was at the shop getting sanded down for a fancy custom paint job.&nbsp; Anyway, was I happy to have his low ball offer?&nbsp; I guess, at the time.&nbsp; Right now i'd rather have that bike in the garage than that measly grand.


Posted by: Jeff Gilbert---------------------

I think some of the problem with selling used biles now is a result of all the new bike offers. Most people are near sited to only look at the I can get a new bike and it's only going to cost me $39. per month.


Posted by: Smit-Dog---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by murcada
... Thats slander buddy boy.

Actually it's libel.... but the nasty little troll living in Eric's sock drawer story was funny!

So dude, tell me, what are you smokin' to come up with that creative shi$?


Posted by: CR Swade---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by murcada
Whats all this clueless BS? All I said was 3900 for a wr250 was reasonable. Then I told whats his face to stop whining. I think he was whining, thats my opinion. Then the evil troll tells me I do drugs. Calling me clueless is fine by me but suggesting I do drugs is not. Thats slander buddy boy.

By the way, take a look at that picture of Rohrich in Eric Gorrs book. The one where he is standing behind a LOWERED yz426. It only had 8 inches of travel but the seat STILL came up to his man teets. He must be like 3 feet tall. Very troll like, I thought. Then there is his nasty troll demeanor. An awful one or two line response and then he's back to the sock drawer. Thats where the troll lives, you know. He lives In Eric Gorrs sock drawer. Thats where he goes to formulate his next awful one liner, specifically designed to denigrate someone to make himself feel more important. Nasty little troll. Thats a bad troll, bad!


I haven't seen much clueless posting, just two sides to a very human perspective...oh wait a minute except for one chippy little fellows attempt to piss of the site guru/grump. Dude, give it a rest...anybody who knows anything about scoots knows you aren't going to justify 5K in mods on a used dez sled, unless you are a rag editor incognito. For all we know, you WERE posting in a chem induced stupor.


Posted by: zcookie49---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Julius Pleaser
I'm leaning toward a YZ450F, but maybe I'll shop used $10,000 KX500's too. Have you seen any for sale?

....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA......Thats was a good one... A shame I cant help you out on the 500, our market up here doesnt see any like that either.
.
You should probably make a strong effort into desert racing.
.
actually, all joking aside, $3900 for an 03 wr is pretty low, I could see maybe for an 01 with mods or such. Doesnt that ride roll out the door around $6400 all said and done? Obviously there is depreciation, but its been 1 year.
It does sound like the guy is still interested if he keeps emailing you.
I do know from experience in my market, that the winter season becomes a buyers market up here, especially with sellers that are hurtin'.


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

Our riding season is just starting for most people. I ride year round, but most of the Southern populace hangs out at the lake in the summer. $3900 would be a decent price or an '02, but the '03 is much improved, and way more expensive. The cheapest quote I ever got on a new one was $5600 OTD. One of the guys I ride with paid $4400 for an '02 last summer. I met another guy who paid $4500 + tax/tag/title/setup/freight for a new '02 last summer.

Murcada, if I wanted to whine, I'd whine about all the little kids who offered me half what I was asking for my XR50.

Jaybird, I never direct anything at anyone.


Posted by: CR Swade---------------------

JP, why don't you approach BSWIFT about a trade? I know he was interested in the WR450 in a trade for his YZ450 when I still owned it


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

Good idea, but Brian probably wouldn't be interested in a tiddler.


Posted by: Rich Rohrich---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by murcada
By the way, take a look at that picture of Rohrich in Eric Gorrs book. The one where he is standing behind a LOWERED yz426. It only had 8 inches of travel but the seat STILL came up to his man teets. He must be like 3 feet tall. Very troll like, I thought. Then there is his nasty troll demeanor. An awful one or two line response and then he's back to the sock drawer. Thats where the troll lives, you know. He lives In Eric Gorrs sock drawer. Thats where he goes to formulate his next awful one liner, specifically designed to denigrate someone to make himself feel more important. Nasty little troll. Thats a bad troll, bad!


That's IT? That's the best you can do? :silly:

I scanned the 5 posts you've made in the year you've been here. You're a real beacon of enlightenment. :confused:
What a piker.


Posted by: Jeff Gilbert---------------------

That's it, Rich has hijacked another thread! Rich, when will you ever learn to be more considerate of others and stop trying to grab all the glory?


Posted by: Rich Rohrich---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Jeff Gilbert
That's it, Rich has hijacked another thread! Rich, when will you ever learn to be more considerate of others and stop trying to grab all the glory?



Jeff - The Flame Forum has been pretty boring lately, and JP can do better than this from a purely Flaming perspective. :confused:

Besides it's always funny to poke some dingus with a stick in here and see how he'll respond. They rarely disappoint me. :thumb:


Posted by: Jeff Gilbert---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Rich Rohrich



Jeff - The Flame Forum has been pretty boring lately, and JP can do better than this from a purely Flaming perspective. :confused:

Besides it's always funny to poke some dingus with a stick in here and see how he'll respond. They rarely disappoint me. :thumb:

I gottcha. We now return you to the regularly scheduled "Rich is a meanie and picks on everyone" program. Carry on short man :thumb:


Posted by: Smitty---------------------

JP,

You gotta come up from that $4100. I just sold my haggerd 02 CRF for $3800 as a sacrifice to the first guy who looked at it. I was asking $4200 but as I was waiting on him to show up I noticed that the pipe was dented, the rear wheel bearings were done, the front rim is dented as hell, chains worn out, and the frame guard is missing on one side and dented on the other.

Other than that it was fine! The point? Your 03 is definitely worth alot more than $4100 if it's as clean as I expect.


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

I looked it over really closely last night, and the bike is in excellent condition. Other than light scratches on all the plastic, it's in new condition. Nothing is bent, broken, or tweaked. It still has the original graphics and tires on it for crap's sake.

You're right. I should start over and up the price to $4900.


Posted by: murcada---------------------

Me, again! Miss me? No? Oh well. Let me start off by saying that infering that someone does drugs absolutely is slander. Slander is defined as "communication of false statements injurious to a person's reputation". That also falls in line with Defamation of Character. Regardless, I love how people come to Rich "The Evil Troll" Rohrichs defense. What a bunch of A$$ KISSERS!!!!

As for Julius Pleaser. I have indeed read the entire thread several times. Perhaps he is the one that needs to read his initial post. The title of this thread is "Lowballers" not "Guys trying to buy my bike with bad attitudes". You changed your story from not liking the guy lowballing you to not liking his attitude. Make up your mind.

And as for the other sheep on here that have posted praising mein fuhrer Rochrich, go eat some dung strudel. I have every right to flame the troll. After all, this is the FLAME board.


Posted by: CR Swade---------------------

Last time anybody checked, you actually have to have an actual identity (legal identity, not internet BB nickname) to defame. So far all I see of your BB rep is you make ME look like a decent guy and that is hard to do.

BTW, I don't kiss any a$$, unless it is my fiances' of course...

Get over it chip and learn how to play nice (you're starting to sound like your prom date stood you up :confused: )


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Julius Pleaser
Then he pulled the "call me if you change your mind" BS on me. What a joke.
Murc, maybe you should read what is actually IN my first post. That's what the flame is about. I haven't changed my mind about anything.

Try again.


Posted by: Smit-Dog---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by murcada
... Let me start off by saying that infering that someone does drugs absolutely is slander. Slander is defined as "communication of false statements injurious to a person's reputation".

It's not slander if it's the written word. That's libel. Slander is an oral defamation.

Words do mean something...

And like CR Swade said, I don't kiss anyone's a$$ but his fiances'...


Posted by: Rich Rohrich---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by murcada
Slander is defined as "communication of false statements injurious to a person's reputation". That also falls in line with Defamation of Character.


Your grasp of the value of motorcycles is only bested by your grasp of the language.

SLANDER is the SPOKEN word, LIBEL is the WRITTEN word genius . :silly:

Maybe you should lowball someone on a friggin dictionary.

LOL, this is more fun than poking an unconcious Gomer with a stick .

Come on, post some more pearls of wisdom PLEASE.


Posted by: Rich Rohrich---------------------

DAMN Smitty - You beat me to the post.


Posted by: dirty~d~---------------------

So let me get this straight...

JP is still upset about the money. :confused:
Smitty is kissing another man's fiance's a$$.
And I'm engaged to a troll? (When did this happen????)

I'm so confused.


Posted by: CR Swade---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Smit-Dog

It's not slander if it's the written word. That's libel. Slander is an oral defamation.

Words do mean something...

And like CR Swade said, I don't kiss anyone's a$$ but his fiances'...


Yeah, I left that inside line wide open for the block pass...dooohhh


Posted by: zcookie49---------------------

LOL
welcome back flame board!
I almost forgot how entertaining it is in here..


Posted by: Jeff Gilbert---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Smit-Dog
And like CR Swade said, I don't kiss anyone's a$$ but his fiances'...
This is starting to remind me of the song Sam Kenneson did when he said
Quote:
Everytime I kiss you I taste what other men had for lunch



Posted by: Moto Squid---------------------

about time there was a good "Rich is a " flame


Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

trolls calling people trolls . . . will wonders ever cease?


Posted by: murcada---------------------

I'm starting to feel some animosity guys. While its obvious the people posting love the troll I still heartily believe there are many out there who feel as I do. They just dont want to catch the heat . So how about this: I will be the whipping boy. I dont care what anyone thinks so I dont mind Richs' pathetic one liners or his army of trolls-in-training protecting their beloved king.

When I mention slander I mean it in a personal way. It pisses me off to have a conceited jerk-off like Rich infer that I do drugs. I loath drug users. I'm sorry to all the anal annies out there for not using it in the correct syntax. Slander.....Libel, its amazing we suddenly have so many English experts out there all of a sudden. I wonder how many of you actually did research on that?

So until the admin removes this thread and bans me from posting I will continue to fight against the evil troll and his army. Viva la revolucion!

Boy, this is starting to sound like a soap opera. At least the folks are getting some cheap entertainment!


Posted by: dirty~d~---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by murcada
Boy, this is starting to sound like a soap opera. At least the folks are getting some cheap entertainment!


And we have you to thank for that. :silly:


Posted by: murcada---------------------

Yeah, I know. But its fun, isnt it?


Posted by: Jeff Gilbert---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by murcada
I dont mind Richs' pathetic one liners or his army of trolls-in-training protecting their beloved king.

Ya know, I see this "Rich is an all the time from people that rarely post and he really doesn't deserve all the slamming he gets. The good part is he’s an adult about it and takes it all with a grain of salt and always finds humor in it.

I wouldn't say I "love" the man and sorry Rich but I don’t look to you as my king either, hell I've never even seen him. I will tell you that I respect him for his knowledge and character. I remember when I first started posting on this site, a few years back, I think it was my 2nd post, Rich set me straight when I was clearly wrong, it was short, direct and to the point. I didn't think I was wrong at the time so I replied back in a manor similar to yours. Rich offered me the information to learn and I took his advice. Never since that day have I had a "problem" with Rich.

Each time I run across post’s like this it makes me think of my 2nd post. Though I've only directly posted asking for his help once or twice I guarantee I can take his answer to the bank. I notice you have been a member here for a while, I thought you would have figured out a little bit more than you appear to have.


Posted by: Jeff Gilbert---------------------

pssst Rich, do you still have my pay pal info


Posted by: motometal---------------------

I didn't realize how much I missed the "real" flame forum until the last few days!&nbsp; :flame:

I can relate to someone flaming a bit on Rich, he's been a bit harsh to me on more than one occasion.&nbsp; Most that have been here for a while have&nbsp;gradually learned to accept, and in some cases appreciate his antics.&nbsp;

It is&nbsp;lame, though, to&nbsp;poke fun at&nbsp;him for being&nbsp;vertically challenged (even though he's probably pretty comfortable with himself by now).&nbsp;&nbsp;There isn't much a person can do about their&nbsp;height,&nbsp;Rich would look quite silly in high heels, and stretch racks are just too painful.&nbsp; So what's the use in trying to make a guy feel bad about himself?&nbsp;


Posted by: murcada---------------------

Alright, I'll bite. I dont know the man and he may be a great guy to most but his short biting remarks arent a good way to convey information. People get offended, obviously. Now he may not care about offending people; I can relate to that; but patience and understanding is whats needed to be an authority figure. What we dont need is the "Your stupid and you do drugs" remarks.

The main thing that concerns me is that he is an authority figure on these forums. I feel like he pisses on people just because he can. People like that dont sit well with me.

Lastly, Xrpredator is a giant disgusting freak of nature and should be cattle prodded into a cage and droped into the ocean.

Didnt see that coming did you?


Posted by: Jeff Gilbert---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by murcada
Xrpredator is a giant disgusting freak of nature and should be cattle prodded into a cage and droped into the ocean.

Didnt see that coming did you?
Now you're starting to make sense


Posted by: CR Swade---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by murcada

Lastly, Xrpredator is a giant disgusting freak of nature and should be cattle prodded into a cage and droped into the ocean.

Didnt see that coming did you?


Damnit, a certain Belton resident that likes piss yellow Yamahas has been fishing again. At least he didn't bring up NAMBLA


Posted by: dirty~d~---------------------

On the contrary... Pred would LOVE that. :confused: In fact just the other day he was saying how he wished he could get up close and personal with a Great White. The cattle prod would just be a bonus.


Posted by: BunduBasher---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by murcada
I'm starting to feel some animosity guys. While its obvious the people posting love the troll I still heartily believe there are many out there who feel as I do. They just dont want to catch the heat . So how about this: I will be the whipping boy. ........


Sounds like this gimp likes leather and chains and a beating to boot &nbsp; sorry bud, but didn't you hear ... "Zed's Dead" !

Looks like the flame forums Baaaaaaack! (at least for a little while)

"whippin boy" ! I ask ya, like you some kind a martyr LOL


Posted by: Jaybird---------------------

Jeez'o pete......

murcada....you should give it a rest pal.

You sound so stupid...and that is not slanderous liable, it's the truth.

I'm not one to kiss much butt, and won't start now. But I can tell you this much...I can't remember any time Rich has thrown down on some numbskull when he didn't have it coming. In fact, there are plenty of times he could have chimed in,&nbsp;but&nbsp;let others take care of his light work.

And for you to flame his size....pal, you need to figure out just what bol weival ate the cabbage here. Rich may not be a tall guy, but I bet money he could tear your head off and crap down your neck, for fun.
Oh and btw....you have enough trouble with Rich, best leave the Pred alone. He is about the only one who could pull Rich off of you-that is if he wanted to, which I'm certain he wouldn't.&nbsp; Too much fun seeing a crack head getting beat up.&nbsp; LOL

When you mentioned that Rich pisses on people...do you mean he throws them down and urinates on them?&nbsp; Wow....is that a liablous statement? Or could it be that you used an anology?

Could it be that when Rich mentioned you taking drugs he was simply using an anology that would be in tune with your remarks?
NO....I'm certain he was talking about the things that come out of your pie hole just after you had a big pull off your crack pipe.

Now, go back to you pipe and try not to get beat up too bad today.

&nbsp;

"What a piker"&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; LOL........(I liked that one)


Posted by: murcada---------------------

This is for the last two posts. mod edit - back it down

As for the XRpredator thing, that was a joke. I saw that picture of him riding a xr50, I think it was. Considering the size difference between the two I estimated the guys about 7 feet tall. So he is a big freak. So there!

I should say, dont start with all this "he could rip your head off and crap down your neck" BS. So far this thread has primarily been for amusement, both mine and everyone elses. I dont want bandubusher and jaybird turning this into a "I can kick you ass" thread.

One more thing. I'm 6'4" and 315 pounds. I dont think Rich will be ripping my head of anytime soon; xrpredator either. Maybe if Rich sat on xrpredators shoulders, though.


Posted by: Green Horn---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by murcada
I'm 6'4" and 315 pounds. I dont think Rich will be ripping my head of anytime soon


...and every last bit is rippling muscle, right??


Posted by: dirty~d~---------------------

Now that you guys have flexed your muscles :silly: can JP have his thread back?

JP, I'm feeling ya dude.


Posted by: Treejumper---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by dirty~d~

JP, I'm feeling ya dude.


What out JP, she has cold hands! I always thought there was more than just chatting going on between you two.


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by dirty~d~
JP, I'm feeling ya dude.
I thought that was Gomer. :scream:


Posted by: Moto Squid---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by murcada
One more thing. I'm 6'4" and 315 pounds


ahh, Rich is a troll and you're a gigantic moron


Posted by: dirty~d~---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Tree jumper
What out JP, she has cold hands!


He told me he likes 'em cold. :confused:


Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

I just want someone to touch it . . .

How did my freakishness get drug into this? I don't see Rich as my King, just the copilot to the waaaaahmbulance. Which, by the way, is idling at the curb. I just need to know what stickers to put in the back window so's we don't offend anybody.


Posted by: Rich Rohrich---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by XRpredator
I don't see Rich as my King, just the copilot to the waaaaahmbulance.


I'll bring plenty of snacks Pred. It's looks like we have a long night ahead. :scream:


Posted by: Endless Mike---------------------

How about a confederate flag sticker above the 12 gauge?


Posted by: Endless Mike---------------------

Did your avatar always move?


Posted by: Rich Rohrich---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Did your avatar always move?


Yep


Posted by: murcada---------------------

I guess since I started this mess I will stop it. Ive already gotten edited twice and I admit Im getting a little too nasty for a public forum that kids read. Rich I would like to offer a piece treaty and agree to disagree. Xrpredator, my comments were purely in joking as I have nothing against you. As for the other people that bashed me; you would make a great gestapo.

I think 3900 bucks for a 2003 wr250 is an insult and the way that guy acted to JP was simply rude. Lowballers piss me off and should be hung upside down by their scrotums!


Posted by: Jeff Gilbert---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by murcada
I think 3900 bucks for a 2003 wr250 is an insult and the way that guy acted to JP was simply rude. Lowballers piss me off and should be hung upside down by their scrotums!

Actually I don't see anything wrong with the guys offer. How was he to know if JP would take up his offer unless he made it. I think the guy had every right to "lowball" JP just as JP had the right not to accept. As fas as his methods of lowballing, I'm sure JP will get over it.


Posted by: murcada---------------------

Jeff, dude, I was being sarcastic. Im trying to cool things down a bit with some humor. If only I had access to those wonderful little emoticons these mix-ups wouldnt happen. Maybe I should skip buying my hemorrhoid cream and become a paying member? Although if I dont have my cream another kind of flaming is going to happen. See in a round-a-bout way I do spend money on crack.


Posted by: Green Horn---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by murcada
See in a round-a-bout way I do spend money on crack.


Being that you're a large man, does this mean you have a large crack...habit to support??

I can see where you were merely joking with people, and I can also see how/why it was taken differently from others reading. I think if ya just ease up a bit you'll forgoe a RohrichWhoopin'.


Posted by: BunduBasher---------------------

BanduBusher was only joking too - what does it help if you have emoticons and you gimps still can't see the humor

That confederate comment is pretty sick though !

Mind if I whip my get out .. er get my whip out and beat some sense into ya sad sad people


Posted by: 2smoke---------------------

Hey speakin of whippin things out..........oops, sorry...wrong website...


Posted by: Jeff Gilbert---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by murcada
Jeff, dude, I was being sarcastic. Im trying to cool things down a bit with some humor. If only I had access to those wonderful little emoticons these mix-ups wouldnt happen. Maybe I should skip buying my hemorrhoid cream and become a paying member? Although if I dont have my cream another kind of flaming is going to happen. See in a round-a-bout way I do spend money on crack.

Murcada, we are all being sarcastic, this is the flame forum :flame:
It used to be like this in the flame forum all the time in the "old days". I sure do mis it and I guess I have you to thank for bringing it back. It has been so dull in here for a long time, this has been a refreshing topic.


Posted by: holeshot---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by murcada
So how about this: I will be the whipping boy.


OK, I'll give you ten lashes with my mouse cord and five stabs with the caps lock key.


Posted by: James---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by motometal
James, if you get 3900 for your '02 let me know....I need to move to your area to sell mine then.


I said $3900 because that was LOWBALL guy's offer to JP. I would gladly take that for it but it is one of those uncool two strokes that nobody wants.

I haven't listed it or anything yet. What stinks is that I have only ridden it a few times and basically put it in storage for the next guy. I should be able to sell it but it will cost me.

Ship your 01 down here and I will get it sold for you :thumb:


Posted by: TheJunkMan---------------------

WOW 181 replies!!


Posted by: Endless Mike---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by BunduBasher

That confederate comment is pretty sick though !


Mine?


Posted by: BunduBasher---------------------

damn yankee


Posted by: Endless Mike---------------------

LOL

Im such a Masshole :D


Posted by: tx246---------------------

YOUR MOMMA IS SO FAT!!!!!!!!!!!.....................uh i got carried away sorry. hehehe.


Posted by: BunduBasher---------------------

Jean, what ya drinking highballs


Posted by: Treejumper---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by BunduBasher
damn yankee


Hey dont go bringing the Damn Yankee Dirt Riders into this.


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

<-For all you lowballers, naysayers, and malcontents. I sold my bike for $4100 to the first guy that looked at it. He knows he got a deal.

I've been hanging out at the beach in Destin for the past few days, and I'll probably be here for the rest of the week. I may not be on for a while (Mom's computer is kinda crappy) so now's your chance to take a cheap shot at me. . .SUCKAZ!


Posted by: Jaybird---------------------

$4300 Firm...
Sold for $4100

Does it feel better to lowball yourself?&nbsp; Kinda like using the other hand?

:silly:


Posted by: BunduBasher---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Julius Pleaser
&lt;-I sold my bike .... so now's your chance to take a cheap shot at me. . .SUCKAZ!


Damn Redneck :confused:


Posted by: truespode---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Jaybird
$4300 Firm...
Sold for $4100

Does it feel better to lowball yourself?&nbsp; Kinda like using the other hand?

:silly:


Jaybird, he dropped to $4100 and was at the $4100 price tag when the guy offered him $3900.

Ivan
Congrats JP.


Posted by: James---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by BunduBasher
Damn Redneck :confused:

That's FUNNY

Congratulations JP!


Posted by: evenslower---------------------

JP.....since you made out like a bandit on the WR, how much you knockin' off the fiddy?


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

Quote:
Originally posted by Jaybird
$4300 Firm...
Sold for $4100

Does it feel better to lowball yourself?&nbsp; Kinda like using the other hand?

:silly:
What? I said all along that I would take $4100. Pay attention. :silly:


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

I'll knock another $.01 off. I'm gonna have to keep the fitty until I can get another ride. Somebody lend me some $$$.


Posted by: dirty~d~---------------------

Awesome JP. Enjoy the time off.


Posted by: JPIVEY---------------------

Funny thread, congrats on finely sell it, but you know what, that same bike goes fro 4500- 5800 out here, so even with shipping it would have been a good deal.

Destry's bike may have been worth 10g's at one time, but after a season 4500.00 - 5000.00 is about what there worth,( what he's getting for them ) the cool thing is, is that he makes sure that his bikes are tip top shape when he sell them. Alot of guys in the district buy them ( '03 250 & 500's ) and race them for another two seasons.


Rich, I love reading your replies, you rock for a short guy


Here, I just grabbed this off our district board (example)
Destry's KX 500 for sale!!!
> This bike was only used for the first half of the year
> (2003)

> Built by John Braasch at Kawasaki
> Powdercoated grey
> Weld-on case savers and stabilizer post.
> Sub-frame and swingarm (paint stripped)
> Longer clutch arm (easier pull).
> Re-gusseted radiators (for strength)
> FMF: Pipe and silencer.
> New plastic & graphics.
> Suspension was done by ACME.
> Pro taper's (Honda Hi).
> BRP: Top and bottom clamps, chain guide, shark-fin,
>
> and silencer mount.
> Works connection: clutch perch, frame guards, throttle
> tube, skid
> plate, and radiator guards.
> Dunlop: 739's fr. and rear, heavy duty tubes.
> IMS: Clear tank without drybreak, Pro-series pegs and
>
> mount.
> Varner: motor mods (very reliable!).
> DP Pads: Fr. and rear.
> RK: O-ring chain.
> Excel: Blk rims fr. and rear.
> Sprocket Specialist sprockets: 15/45.

> Lots of extras: plastic, graphics, stock parts, FMF
> pipe, and
> more.

> I'm sure there's some things I haven't listed too.
> This bike is exactly like I race it, but without the stabilizer
> and drybreak.

> E-mail me at kxabbott@aol.com
> $4,700


pretty sweet deal


Posted by: holeshot---------------------

JP II:

If you had sold your bike for $4500.00, you would be the subject of hero worship , but instead you've sold it for $4100.00, making you a relative peon in the used Dirt Bike salesmanship world. :silly:

However, you've managed to advertise your bike in the flame forum, ordered
people to pay attention and, as a result, received 3700+ hits. Very clever. :thumb:



Here are few tips on getting "top dollar" in the future:


1. I prefer the fumbling, bumbling "Lieutenant Columbo" technique (it comes natural to me). Your prospective buyer will be in a hurry to fork over the cash (before you come to your senses) and won't even bother to ask for the extra goodies (in his haste to make a quick get-a-way with your bike). The customer's willingness to take advantage of the mentally infirm is always an advantage to the seller.


2. You could use the excuse, "I jus' cain't ride these dang motorsicles anymo'", as it's a great negotiating point. A strategically placed walker and/or wheelchair (if you have them) is a sure capper to the deal.


3. If you're using the line, "I just took her out for an occasional trail ride in the dez, that's about all. I don't ride these things very hard ya know", make sure your home isn't littered with clusters of trophies when you go in to write up deal. If the trophies say something like "2nd place in the little old men with seeing eye dogs" class, you might be off the hook.


Hopefully, you can use these tips on your inevitable next used dirt bike sale.


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

Thanks for the tips, Hole. I only paid $4400 for the bike back in April. I bought the bike from Scott Plessinger hissownself. He took the bike as a trade-in from a guy who outgrew it on his first ride. It had 11 miles on it when i picked it up. I bought it sight unseen off the Cycletrader ad after Scott described it as "brand new". He needed to move it, so he let it go cheap, and I hauled ass to Ohio that day and nabbed it. I was a millimeter away from paying $5600 for a local bike when i saw Scott's ad.

I rode it and raced it for 7 months, then sold it for $4100. I DID replace the rear tire ($55) but I kept the handguards ($75). Did I do good? :confused:

I keep telling you people - I'm not as dumb as I look.


Posted by: motometal---------------------

did the buyer see it on DRN??


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

Nope - I placed an ad in the local paper, and he saw the ad online. I left the link on the inside cover of the owner's manaul, so maybe he'll come hang out with us.


Posted by: paddy---------------------

Ok JP I will agree You are not as dumb as you look. But I am courious did the extra money make the vacation to Florida possible? All these peeps bagging on you for the attitude dude gave well I agree with you. (Must be a southern thing and NO Texas is not a southern state!) I had a phone call like that b4 and I told dude to come look at the bike, I told him only a idiot would offer money b4 knowing a single thing about the bike. Sadly he never came and I got the full amount I was asking from another serious buyer, much like you did!

I truely enjoyed reading this entire thread (it only took 40 Mins) and love to see how others react or tell another how to act in a picticular situation. Especially when a opinion was never asked in the first place.

Well it is late and I am sure the grammer speaks for itself I need some sleep.


paddy

P.S. Hey JP did it ever cross your mind maybe dude was just giving you a run for your money?


Posted by: WM3racer---------------------

1967 chevelle SS 3 year old red paint, 4 month old crate 454 with 5 grand of porting, flowing, stroking done to it. All new electrics all on through. New roll bar, new suspension. 12 bolt with a spool. Asking 13,500
I got it for 4 grand :-D the guy needed the money and let me know how much he needed, i showed him the cash, he took it and gave me the keys. Since then it has new chrome all around, the back brace on the roll bar is out, stereo has been put in, all new interior panels, leather, dash, new brakes, new body mounts, new 12 bolt and the traction bars were taken out. No more spool for me! new tires and some minor electrical work. Now i have been offered 18,000 for the car. By the same guy i bought it from even!

Steal of a lifetime. I know i am low baller by following through but he should have never let us find out the money he actually needed.

I got lowballed on my 2001 CR125, had about 50 hours on the whole bike. 5 hours in a new top end. FMF exhaust, CDR suspension, new tripple tree's, bars, everything regreased, frame polished and swingarm polished. renthal bars, chain and sprockets and other small things. He got it all for 2800, last summer. Not only that but he got a trailer as well! oh well, done deal and i'm well over it....


Posted by: gabriel---------------------

maybe its me but 4100 for a year old wr 250 four stroke sounds like way too much money 3k is all id give you if the bike was mint


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

You're right. It's you.

If your post was mint, I'd give you 2 cents for it. Or. . .maybe not.


Posted by: JuliusPleaser---------------------

Now I know why my ears were burnin'.



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