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Posted by: bedell99---------------------

Everyone keeps bashing RC, thinking CR has already won the title and I really don't understand why? True Reed beat him straight up at the US Open, but if the < ADMIN EDIT: That's 1 > Aussie had any real national pride he would of been in Euorpe racing for his country. I really think this supercross is going to boil down to Daytona. I know this is far way off, but if RC can keep close I think he will get an edge on CR there and I'll explain why. CR can't touch Carmichael outdoors, he also can't touch Vully & Windam, maybe even Ferry and even if tortelli is running a good pace. I know he placed second last year, but there was no competition in the field except for ferry that day. I will put money down with anybody that carmichael will win daytona and pick up a slew of points on Reed. Also all this stuff on the net with RC riding a 450. Gimme a break. Think about it. I try out my friends bikes all the time, you don't think windam has tried RC's bike?. til I hear it straight from the horses mouth I will believe it. . I really believe RC is going to pull it off in 2004. I just have this strange feeling. What do you guys/girls think??

Erik

Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

I think using profanity in your post lessons its validity. :silly:

Posted by: TheJunkMan---------------------

i agree hank

Posted by: bclapham---------------------

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November 26, 2003

Confirmed: Carmichael staying home; riding a four-stroke

Racer X has learned that Ricky Carmichael, the three-time THQ/AMA Supercross Champion, has made up his mind. He will not be attending the first two rounds of the THQ/FIM World Supercross GP tour in Spain and Holland in December, opting instead to focus on completing the transition from a two-stroke Honda CR250 to a four-stroke CRF450R. Carmichael had planned to attend the races in Europe, which he skipped last year. But his decision to switch to a four-stroke for the first time in his career means that he will need to spend every possible minute he can between now and the January 3 Anaheim Supercross in full testing mode. Stay tuned for an official press release from his team.

its a good job USA has RC since he is THE only US rider that gave you guys any credabilty last year, and to say half of the US fans boo him, now thats sad.

that said, i think RC will struggle a bit on the 450 in SX but all of the others will be sucking roost outdoors again.

Posted by: BEEF706---------------------

I STILL think RC is the man to beat in both SX and MX, I think his drive to win is so string that it will be th difference in a long season. I'm not a big Reed believer, not that he doesn't have the speed (he does) but I don't think he has the stamina, we'll see. ( but then I am well known to be a leprachaun fan)

Posted by: BEEF706---------------------

PS Bruce you don't think KW and Larocco have credibility? Not to start the cross the pond trash talk (again) but who do you think would be more successful, KW in Europe or Everts in America?

(I'm not trashing Everts, he's awesome) Discuss..................

Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

I think RC can and will be beat. And he'll switch BACK to a CR250 partway through the season.

But then I'm a well known Leprechaun fan as well . . . :confused:

Posted by: DurtJunkee---------------------

I think more people should drink a few beers and wait for the season to happen.

Posted by: BEEF706---------------------

Pred, is the cough syrup kicking in?

Posted by: bclapham---------------------

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Originally posted by BEEF706
don't think KW and Larocco have credibility?

well, Larocco came in behind a bunch of foriegners in both championships and K-dub wasnt prepared to represent HIS own country on the world stage.

so no!

and the US fans should get behind ricky.

but you are right i dont want to go down the FIM vs AMA champs since them threads go about as far as the WMD threads that go nowhere.

Posted by: marcusgunby---------------------

I think RC has a string of championships, wins almost every race he enters and i wouldnt bet against him at any level, however he can be beat and SX is the weaker of his strengths LOL.Reed has showed his speed at all levels and anyone who thinks he cant win at SX is not thinking right, also he can go well outdoors, his bike setup wasnt good this year and i beleive he can do better next season.

Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

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Originally posted by DurtJunkee
I think more people should drink a few beers and wait for the season to happen.

Now there's an idea. :thumb:

Seriously... think about how messed-up the top guys *could* be if Stewart runs the first half of the 250's ... even if he doesn't win, you know he's got a good chance of standing on the box, could make the points battle interesting.

Posted by: bedell99---------------------

Sorry Okie, Will never happen again

Erik

Posted by: Erick82---------------------

RC is the champ, has more victories than any other American MX SX racer ever, went undefeated in a outdoor series. I think his recored speaks for its self, I don't think are opinions realy mean diddle squat.

My opinion is people who bo him for no reason are stupid and jealous, there again thats just an opinion and they realy don't mean squat.

Posted by: Yogurt---------------------

Yeah, I was just gonna say RC is gonna be riding the CRF450 this SX season, but bclapham already beat me to it. My bet is, if he is struggling on the 450, then he might switch back to the 2-stroke part way through the series. But as the rumors say, Windham beat RC's fast lap record at the Honda test track, and RC choose the 450 to shave some precious time off his laps. I think it was a smart move by RC, he just has to stick with it.

CR will definitely be a threat for the SX title, he probably woulda had it last year if he didn't make a few mistakes. But with me being an RC fan and not a CR fan, I hope Ricky trains even harder and show's CR up.

Posted by: nate_z---------------------

I think Carmichael's status has been determined for next supercross season. Was looking forward to a good Reed vs. Carmichael battle. Wonder if he did it on the 450 or 250?

November 26, 2003

Carmichael Injured

Torrance, CA: American Honda announced today that Ricky Carmichael, defending AMA 250 Supercross and AMA 250 National Motocross Champion sustained a knee injury while pre-season testing for the 2004 season.

Carmichael was examined by his doctor earlier today with the results showing a torn ACL knee ligament. The injury will require surgery with an estimated recovery time of 4 months.

"Ricky and the team were prepared and looking forward to defending the Supercross title", said Honda Race Team Manager, Chuck Miller, "Now Ricky is anxious to get the surgery taken care of so he can start his training for the National Motocross series."

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Posted by: BEEF706---------------------

That's diappointing, I wish him a speedy recovery, been there tore that.

Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

damn, I didn't know my voodoo doll would be that powerful . . .

Posted by: Senior KX Rider---------------------

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Originally posted by Okiewan

Seriously... think about how messed-up the top guys *could* be if Stewart runs the first half of the 250's ... even if he doesn't win, you know he's got a good chance of standing on the box, could make the points battle interesting.

I like that scenario

JBS is not there to make any friends and I would love to see him jump in and take a few podium spots and stir the points battle up. I would like to see him do it and do welll enough to stay on the big bike

Posted by: Senior KX Rider---------------------

If RC is out then I think Bubba could take that title from that other guy.....that thinks he is next in line.......whats his name

Posted by: Senior KX Rider---------------------

And guess who will have the number 1 plate outdoors next year

Posted by: Erick82---------------------

That totally sucks, I hate to see his season end this way, before it even starts.

No one in the 250 class, it will still be RC, since he will be back and still be the defending champ. And Langston is running the 250's, so no one will be running number 1.

Posted by: Yogurt---------------------

Holy crap! RC, "the machine" injured! It's a very cold day in hell I bet.

Posted by: Yogurt---------------------

Well now I guess it's Reed's title to lose. But like Reed said last year when winning the World SX title, it didn't mean as much to him since RC wasn't there. Perhaps the 2004 SX title won't be as prestigeous without Carmicheal there. Now mabye Bubba will pull a "Langston" and go for the 250 SX title. haha, just kidding.

Posted by: Senior KX Rider---------------------

Don't think I would be quite so quick to crown whats his name champ

Posted by: HiG4s---------------------

I heard that the whole Racer X thing was because someone at Racer X saw RC taking some test laps on Windham's bike. And That he did not plan on switching to 4-stroke, this year anyway. Of course the injury kind of makes it a moot point.

Posted by: Budda---------------------

Don't think the title will just be a cakewalk for Reed, there are quite a few incredible racers he has to beat before he can cash that championship check.

I can't imagine how hungry RC will be when he lines up for his first race back!

Posted by: bclapham---------------------

i hope someone has the asterisk ready to go on the end of this seasons 250SX champion since they wont have beaten the defending champeen. :silly:

Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

I believe the * is for the not winning any races and no final round, silly :confused:

Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

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Now mabye Bubba will pull a "Langston" and go for the 250 SX title.

Yeah, I would bet my last dollar that if Bubba was in the series, he'd be big-time dissapointed about RC NOT being there. If you've been keeping-up... the kid WANTS to spank the best.

Posted by: 2smoke---------------------

How does that Tom Petty song go...the future was wide open.......yep take note everyone.....2004 SX is now officially wide open.

Posted by: Yogurt---------------------

Amen 2smoke. :thumb:

And Okie, I still stand by my point, that none of us will see JBS on a 250 full-time until 2005. This 2004 250 SX title is between Reed, Vuillemen, and Windham. So it could finally be big Blue's turn for a #1 plate, which they desperately need.

Posted by: Patman---------------------

4 months for a torn ACL?

Looks like Skippy should have a cake walk with Special K giving him a challenge. I just don't see Bubba as being a major threat right off the bat in 250's. It's a totally different world thatn the 125 class that he's been cleaning up in. Fast lap times? Sure, I doubt it's too difficult when the track is open in front of you and the guys you race are not as aggressive as The Rock, The Cobra, RC, et. al. Will he win? Sure but he's going to earn a few lumps learning the rops of the big boy class.

Posted by: mdkuder---------------------

I think Carmichael should drop pack to the Stewart cherry picking class and we'll see some real racing............well......maybe not, JS will still smoke him.

Posted by: HiG4s---------------------

Hmmm, just a thought, with the power and handling of the 250s being different, and like you say, he will need to learn the ropes, perhaps JS should ride the west 250 class on his 125. Learn the ropes with no real pressure to win. He is fast enough on the 125 he would most likly still podium a few races, and not have to worry about switching bikes to go back to the 125 East. Then next year he would only have to learn the new bike.

Posted by: whitesands26---------------------

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Originally posted by Okiewan
I think using profanity in your post lessons its validity. :silly:

As does incorrect spelling...Read your post again

Posted by: kbud---------------------

Anybody hear anything about RC switching to Answer Racing? There was an ad in Dirt Rider that said The Red Rider I Comming, or something like that, and it had a sillouette of a Honda rider (could tell it said honda on the skid plate). Could be a number of people, just seems like a bigger deal if RC did switch.

Posted by: super rat---------------------

I would be shocked if RC ever left FOX. Remeber the big stink with him not wearing the team gear when he was with PC?

Posted by: nephron---------------------

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Hmmm, just a thought, with the power and handling of the 250s being different, and like you say, he will need to learn the ropes

I read a rag last year, I think MXRacer, where they spent a day at Bubba's house. No doubt Bubba knew he would be called on the 250 subject, because low and behold Kawasaki brought in some 250's. On his 'supposed' (probably was) first time out, he quadded and beat his 125 laptime record by 2 seconds.

If he decides to ride a 250 on the west coast, even if RC and Reed (had or will) be there, it'll be 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1.....he's simply the best. Learn the ropes? Ha. He'll learn them before the first turn.

Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

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Originally posted by super rat
I would be shocked if RC ever left FOX. Remeber the big stink with him not wearing the team gear when he was with PC?

He will go where the money is. Like him or not, he knows how to rake in the jingle.

Posted by: jboomer---------------------

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he's simply the best. Learn the ropes? Ha. He'll learn them before the first turn.

It's funny you say that. I just got my "The Great Outdoors SE" DVD in two days ago and he mentions the Hangtown Mud Race two seasons ago and how "everyone" expected him to do poorly because he "wasn't a mud rider" and had been beat recently by amateurs at a mud race. He said "every lap" he learned how to ride in the mud...he came off a bad start and still won the race with a huge lead! Now that's a STEEP learning curve!

Posted by: super rat---------------------

He will go where the money is. Like him or not, he knows how to rake in the jingle.

I think you have your riders mixed up, you thinking of McGrath.

Posted by: XRpredator---------------------

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Originally posted by super rat
I think you have your riders mixed up, you thinking of McGrath.

Uh, no. I know of whom I think of. Brand loyalty is for losers.

Posted by: super rat---------------------

Yea your right about the brand thing. How about start money?

Posted by: BEEF706---------------------

Wonered about the Answer ad myself, looks like the same picture Honda had in the RC CR championship ad. Wouldn't have thought that Answer had the $$ for RC, intriuging.

Posted by: DougRoost---------------------

I think it's a bigger risk that Fox will lose JS than RC. There's too much marketing potential in JS going forward for too many reasons. And I've heard some crazy numbers that have been lobbed JS's way in the offseason.

I also remember McGrath saying in hindsight one of the biggest mistakes he made was leaving Fox. Said it was a very supportitve, almost family-like environment. Not sure of the dates but would be interesting to go back and see if there is any correlation between him leaving Fox and his race results.

Posted by: bedell99---------------------

The "answer" is Ernesto Fonseca. He will switch from Troy Lee for 2004

Erik

Posted by: zcookie49---------------------

yep, Ernie in Answer.

Posted by: DougRoost---------------------

BTW, I learned RC's contract with Fox has 7 more years left.

Posted by: mxer842---------------------

i wouldn't be suprised to see fox put RC in shift gear to promote that line since shift's parent company is fox.

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