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Gaerne SG10
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Posted by: gasgasman---------------------

Has anyone tried the new Gaerne SG10 boots?
Has a pivoting ankle, a la SIDI Flex Force

As much as I love my SIDIs, I'm fed up of them shredding my bike up and the fit with knee braces is horrible.

Posted by: aus426---------------------

Go the Gaernes. I wear SG1s and cant fault them, SG10s in my opinion are a better boot than the overrated tech 8. Great fit, super quick break in, and they look horn

Plus the soles wont chop out after 2 rides! I actually know of people putting gaerne soles on their astars because they last so much longer!

Posted by: wade450f---------------------

I have about 10 rides on my sg10's
love em

I was wearing tech 7's for 6 years

they are comfortable
they buckles work great

Posted by: KXTodd---------------------

Anybody else got these? I've been wearing tech 8's for the last 3 years and ready for new boots, toss up between the Gaernes, Fox Formas or back to tech 8's?

Posted by: gasgasman---------------------

Thanks for the advice guys.

While the SIDIs are excellent boots, there are too many short comings with them.
1)Too short-top to bottom- hangs on bike.
2) Excessive plastic on inner calf-shreds air boxes and whatever is in the way.
3)Straps loose their adjustment just by removing boot.
4) With knee braces on, can't fasten inner velcro gaitor strap.

SIDI is too slow to update the boots. All the complaints I've mentioned have been the same since the came out 5 years ago.

Posted by: Chili---------------------

My son LazyBoy has a set that he's got a few races and several practice days on so far. We spent considerable time trying on every boot we could find with the exception of the Sidi (no dealer here) and each boot was met with a "I dunno, feels ok" kind of response. As soon as he stood up in the Gaerne's he stated "these are the one's". Since they were one of the two choices on my list for protective reasons we ended up with them. He hasn't complained about a thing so far with them.

Posted by: DEX---------------------

Did he try the Oxtar pro's? That is what I am planning on.
Either the Oxtars Pro or the SG 10.
I took a good close look at a pair of Oxtar Comp's similar to Tech 6s and was impressed. From what I could see they seemed to be a superior boot.

Posted by: MXP1MP---------------------

I had them on back ordered so hopefully I'll have my SG10's soon got them threw the rider support program. But I have tried them on and they feel like they are gonna be awesome I have tech 8's now and like the boots can't stand the soles but the new tech 8's have newer soles like the gaerne's now.

Posted by: Chili---------------------

He tried on the Oxtar Pro's and felt they were the most unsuitable of the group for his foot.

Posted by: DEX---------------------

I suppose it owuld have alot to do with personal preferance I myself have very flat feet so would prefer something different probably than a person with a high arch. Did the Oxtars just not fit right? I am not buying this week or anything but this fall or winter when I get my fresh gear I will be getting a pair of quality boots. However since I am in Nova Scotia Canada the dealers around here dont keep much inventory so you kinda gotta know what you need before you order....

Posted by: Chili---------------------

Dex my son has flat feet to the point that he needs orthotics for support. Each boot is a personal feel or preference. He felt that the Oxtars didn't match up to any of the boots he tried on that day for fit and feel. Quality wise they seem like a decent boot. To give you an idea how it can be personal feel most rave about the Tech 8 and the bootie, my son hated the feel of the bootie and wanted the Tech 6's until we tried on the Gaerne's.

Posted by: CR3999---------------------

Hey gas gas man where do ya get the Gaernes at.

Posted by: DEX---------------------

Sounds good. So I guess I will be looking to get either a pair of Astar Tech 6s or the Garene SG 10.

How do you know if you need orthotics arch support? What does it do?

Posted by: gasgasman---------------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by CR3999

Hey gas gas man where do ya get the Gaernes at.

.....I guess I'll have to mail order them.

Posted by: Chili---------------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEX

How do you know if you need orthotics arch support? What does it do?

We are kind of hijacking the thread here but he was having knee pain and saw an orthopedic surgeon who prescribed the orthotics to correct his gait.

Posted by: WhiteBros426---------------------

Can anyone compare these to the Fox Forma Pro's... in comfort, easy of ankle movement, brake and shifter feel? please help me out, thanks Pete

Posted by: mxmatthew---------------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chili

We are kind of hijacking the thread here but he was having knee pain and saw an orthopedic surgeon who prescribed the orthotics to correct his gait.

i had the same thing with my knees when i used to run a lot, if he's not in any pain he doesnt necessarily need them but the arch can gradually be built up with orthotics.

Posted by: BRush---------------------

How high are the water proof gaiters on the SG10? Do they come all the way up like SIDIs or are they lower, like the Alpinestars?

Posted by: gasgasman---------------------

The gaiter comes up 2/3 of the way. Which, when set next to the SIDIs is about 2" lower.

I rode with my new SG10s today.
Very nice boot, took about 10 miles to break in.
All I had to do was raise the shift lever up a notch.
The buckles are super easy to use, on the SIDIs they had to be perfectly straight before they would latch.
Buckles are adjustable-top one 2.5" adjustment.
Top of boot seals even with knee braces on.
Pivots are slightly back from the ankle joint.This allows for a narrower boot at the ankle-SIDIs would push your feet out.
Rode all day and boots did not hang on the bike, also does not shred the air box and frame like the SIDIs.

Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

I just ordered a pair, will comment after DirtWeek.

Posted by: JTT---------------------

I curious about the "bulk" of the SG10s. I mean I loved my Tech 8s (with exception of the worst sole on the market), but found them very big and bulky, particularly now that I'm riding woods almost exclusively. I really like my Sidis for this reason...very supportive, yet slim, light weight and good feel on controls (non-SRS).

I've always liked Gaernes but am concerned about the SG10s being bulky like the Tech 8s. What do you find gasgasman, after having both the Sidi and Gaernes?

Posted by: KXTodd---------------------

I've got a few rides on mine now, they're not nearly as bulky as Tech 8's. I've had a problem a few times of them catching on the sides of the bike, smashed my toe into the front inside when I clipped a rock once. They broke in almost immediately and I 've gotten used to them but next time I'll try something else, they don't feel all that protective?

Posted by: gasgasman---------------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTT

I What do you find gasgasman, after having both the Sidi and Gaernes?

The SIDIs are thinner at the top of the foot area.But wider at the ankles.
With the Gaernes, all I had to do was raise the shifter up.
The Gaernes do not snag on the bike at all.
My Asterisks now fit in the boot with room to spare.
The SIDIs has less flex in the sole.

For me the SIDIs has too many idiosynchracies to deal with.

Posted by: 1tontj---------------------

Are these good for those of us that have big calves (19") and the big Thor force knee gaurd(looks like a brace).

My Oxtars I have now - the top buckle will not do up at all with my knee gaurds on.

Thanks,
Phil

Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

Got my SG-10's yesterday, can't comment about riding with them, but will say I'm very impressed with them out of the box, sweet boot, quality stuff!

About large calves... they have the most room I've seen (Sidi's, Tech 8's and 6's) and do have additional adjustment in the top two buckles allowing you to add size. My calves are 17", lot's of room left with the knee braces.

Posted by: 1tontj---------------------

Nice! Thanks Okiewan.
Now if only there was a dealer to try them on at here in Ottawa Canada 8(

Phil

Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

FYI.. anyone that's interested:
There will be several Demo pairs of SG-10's at DirtWeek in popular sizes.

Posted by: JTT---------------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by gasgasman

The SIDIs has less flex in the sole.

Are you comparing the SRS sole or the standard sole?

Thanks for the info gasgasman! I might give them a try.

Posted by: Chili---------------------

As another FYI about the Gaerne's they seem to understand Customer Service as well. We had a problem with one of the buckles on LazyBoy's that had started to pull through the boot. One phone call to Bob's Cycle supply, a couple of quick digital pics and a 10 minute wait before I get a return call tellling me the rep says no problem bring em down for a new pair. This was a few weeks ago after we had put pretty much a full race season on em.

Posted by: ps2112---------------------

I have about 10 rides on my SG10's, including a 55 mile poker run. I really like them. One thing I found though is you have to keep an eye on the pivot screw. Mine kept backing off and I finally lost it. Gaerne replaced it free of charge and suggested I lock tite them, The only rub I have with them is that I wish they were more supportive for frontwards motion i.e toes moving towards the shin. I've found that hard landings and cases tend to hurt on the top of my foot due to my toes trying to touch my shin.

Posted by: JTT---------------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by ps2112

The only rub I have with them is that I wish they were more supportive for frontwards motion i.e toes moving towards the shin. I've found that hard landings and cases tend to hurt on the top of my foot due to my toes trying to touch my shin.

That may be the deal breaker for me. My ankles are so wasted that I need particular attention to support in that direction. I think its referred to as hyperflexion.

Posted by: Okiewan---------------------

I can't see want less flex front to back?
If so, you may want to look at the Sidi Force with SRS sole, a lot less flex in every direction.

Posted by: steve427s---------------------

I tried on every boot on the market and the minute I put on the SG-10...I knew that was it.They feel great break in was instantanious. I swear by these boots. I had a high speed get off the bike landed on my ankle. Badly bruised, but no break. I am convinced without a doubt if I would have had any other boot on I wouldn't have walked away from that crash. If they fit your foot right then don't hesitate to buy them....you will be very pleased.

Posted by: RED78---------------------

Did you try on a pair of astar 10s? Much lighter and more comfortable than the 8s. Haven't tried Gaernes yet - haven't located a dealer in Sacramento, CA (yet). Thanks for the Gaerne review though, and the insight on Sidis. I will be looking at both before buying.

Posted by: xcracer725---------------------

i jsut got a pair of gaerne sg-1s, are those good or shoulda i raised the extra money for the sg-10s

Posted by: Chili---------------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by xcracer725

i jsut got a pair of gaerne sg-1s, are those good or shoulda i raised the extra money for the sg-10s

No comparison between the boots. If you could come up with the extra dough you'd be far better off with the SG-10's.

Posted by: xcracer725---------------------

ya but im only 13 and ill be 14 in feb. so wouldnt i outgrow them and all that money be waste.

Posted by: xcracer725---------------------

plus they were on sale for like 230

Posted by: mxmatthew---------------------

yea, for those reasons I'd say you made a wise choice!

Posted by: Chili---------------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by xcracer725

plus they were on sale for like 230

If that's what you paid for the SG-1's you could have got the SG-10's for $60 more online at bobs cycle supply. It is $60 well invested. If you can find a local shop with the SG-10's take your SG-1's down and compare em side by side by bending them sideways, front to back etc.

Posted by: rydesred---------------------

not trying to hijack the tread but i just got the new thor quadrants. im on a budget and the price was right. havent ridden in them yet but to me they fit killer and im happy with them. they also close all the way with the thor force knee guards on too. my on complaint so far would be the very top buckle doesnt like to stay latched under alot of presure.

Posted by: VintageDirt---------------------

I was all set to buy me some SG10s but when I looked at 'em over at Bobby J's, they seem really heavy. And what is all that wrap around plastic stuff for? So I didn't get any new boots.

Posted by: Chili---------------------

Wes, according to Transworlds Boot Buyers guide the SG-10's are pretty heavy. 9lbs 6 oz. which is 14 oz more than the Tech 8's and 6 oz's more than the Tech 10's. Overall the weight of the boot within reason would be of little concern to me as I don't spend the day walking in them. The wrap around stuff I can only imagine is part of the support that the boots offer. For us it came down to looking for the most support for LazyBoy after his tib/fib break which left us 3 choices, Oxtar, Gaerne and Sidi. Of those he didn't get a chance to try on the Sidi's but after trying all the A'stars and the Oxtar as soon as he put on the Gaerne he knew he had found his new boots.

Posted by: VintageDirt---------------------

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Originally Posted by Chili

Overall the weight of the boot within reason would be of little concern to me as I don't spend the day walking in them.

Hmmm, I guess I need to change my riding style or my bike.

Posted by: JMD---------------------

I found a like-new pair of SG-10s on a certain popular auction site that must, alas, remain nameless here, for $210 shipped. I look forward to trying them. I wanted the most protective and comfortable boot out there. I have two pairs of Tech 8s, and I love them, but just wanted to try something different. Also, I like the pivoting ankle support on the Gaernes.

Posted by: Evoboy---------------------

I too ordered a pair of the new Thor Quadrants, and after trying them on realized they were too small. They were not all that comfortable either. I tried on a pair of SG-'1s and they felt much better. However when i tried on the SG-10's, I knew those were the ones. I have sent my Thors back and have my SG-10's on order. The Thors were size 9 and too tight, the SG-10's are size 9 and feel almost as comfortable as my tennis shoes. I am really looking forward to riding in them!!!

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