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[QUOTE="DEANSFASTWAY, post: 679610, member: 31309"] You know what happens quite often Jeremy is that once some West coast test rider for some crappy magazine rides a bike with a different color than hisusual flavor he gets jaundiced. He doesnt tsake the time to really evaluate the bike because he alrady knows what color fenders it has . He is swayed by past history or what he has heard and doesnt really give a good test on what is perceivred only on what he already thoughtor was told. Plus there may not be someone there thats reall familiar to set up the bike. If you have a KTM and the rear is not correctly set the rear may ride high and front end may shake or if its too saoft the rear drags low and the bike skates. If everyone always complains about KTM (SX) riding high in the rear . Why would the want to go to straight rate springs only to have no curve . Progressoives offer more plush . I even like to find progressives on woodsy bikes or for more lightweight riders, you know the springs that everyone was taking off the 00 Kaws for example . PDS systems are by far the most tunable systems manufactured Esp WP, if different needles were readily available there would be a big benefit . On older KTMs I used to try to shorten or cut a taper on the needles but I couldnt really perceive much of a difference myself . What other system can you tune like this? There are only a handful of linkages available for Jap bikes and as such what are the prices? I think what bothers most users or consumers is the big degree of difficulty in service of WP. Alot of guys like to change their own shock oil but are scared to try a PDS . Special tools etc. Maybe thats a good thing if they dont want to open up a big ball of wax . Maybe they just need to get educated a bit more. I know I can make a KTM ride like a Caddilac if I want to and still soak up the gnarlies or stay atop a 1/2 mile set of whoops. A fellow recently asked a question on this forum it read " Which first correct setup suspension or steering dampener?" It was from an east coast probably dual intent guy MX/ offroad I think he was from Jersey . I see alot of orange bikes out here with dampeners but probably stock suspension . If you really take the time to tune you shouldnt really need a dampener albeit maybe in emergency to save yourself or something . Another thing KTM esp(no locknut) is that it seems alot of riders dont know how to set the steering head bearing properly , theyll have a dampener cranked in and loose steering bearings . ??? The bad press KTM gets is a big farce. The Ohlins thing Ive kinda got to agree with you on and it the same as like 8 years ago when the mags were pushing on selling the 45mm Marzo forks ? What a load of crap they were, but people gotta love the Bling Bling . Those new Ohlins ZPS Fully adj Quad shocks that are out are pretty nice though.Ah yes one day KTM will become a mainstay and there will be much more on the MX gates but for now youll have to go to a Enduro or HS to see that at least 60% are on orange bikes . Out here anyway.And Jer from a production standpoint Im sure its cheaper to respec aPDS needle or shim stack configuration then to go with the Progressive spring. The pro spring just costs more . It would really be bitchen to get the trickest susp on a bike with the best motor that already comes with the best bars and chain and stuff. Nothing is ever perfect my friend. At least not me thats for sure. But I agree with your points and you and I have talked this before that its not only to do with you relationship with the KTM brand. CHEERS DEAN [/QUOTE]
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