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Glen Helen - early spoiler
Looks like James Stewart put it on them in moto 1
Looks like James Stewart put it on them in moto 1
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Glen Helen - early spoiler
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125s
1 259 JAMES M STEWART JR HAINES CITY, FL KAW 25( 1) 22( 2) 47 0 47
2 111 GRANT LANGSTON S AFRICA, KTM 20( 3) 20( 3) 40 0 40
3 103 CHAD REED AUSTRALIA, YAM 22( 2) 15( 6) 37 0 37
4 1 MICHAEL L BROWN PINEY FLATS, TN KAW 11(10) 25( 1) 36 0 36
5 37 DANNY L SMITH MIDDLETON, ID SUZ 16( 5) 16( 5) 32 0 32
6 68 MATT WALKER MC RAE, GA KAW 13( 8) 18( 4) 31 0 31
7 24 ERNESTO FONSECA COSTA RICA, HON 14( 7) 14( 7) 28 0 28
8 20 DAMON W HUFFMAN CANYON COUNTRY, CA SUZ 12( 9) 12( 9) 24 0 24
9 43 BOBBY B BONDS BAKERSFIELD, CA KAW 15( 6) 7(14) 22 0 22
10 29 TRAVIS A PRESTON HESPERIA, CA HON 9(12) 9(12) 18 0 18
11 18 BROCK SELLARDS SHERRODSVILLE, OH KTM 18( 4) 0(35) 18 0 18
12 35 MICHAEL BYRNE AUSTRALIA, QL HON 6(15) 8(13) 14 0 14
13 39 DAVID PINGREE TEMECULA, CA KTM 8(13) 6(15) 14 0 14
14 30 SCOTT SHEAK CORONA, CA HON 0(30) 13( 8) 13 0 13
15 94 JOSH R DEMUTH FORT WORTH, TX YAM 1(20) 11(10) 12 0 12
16 917 ERIC SORBY CORONA, CA KAW 2(19) 10(11) 12 0 12
17 45 IVAN TEDESCO TEMECULA, CA YAM 10(11) 0(33) 10 0 10
18 90 CHRISTOPHER GOSSELAAR JUNIPER HILLS, CA HON 7(14) 0(25) 7 0 7
19 105 TRAVIS C ELLIOTT ALVIN, TX HON 3(18) 3(18) 6 0 6
20 10 LARRY WARD FLORENCE, SC YAM 0(39) 5(16) 5 0 5
21 59 CASEY LYTLE SAUGUS, CA YAM 5(16) 0(23) 5 0 5
22 33 GREG S SCHNELL RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CA YAM 0(21) 4(17) 4 0 4
23 28 BRANDEN L JESSEMAN FOMBELL, PA SUZ 4(17) 0(31) 4 0 4
24 36 STEVE BONIFACE FRANCE, KTM 0(37) 2(19) 2 0 2
25 44 MICHAEL A BRANDES LAKE ELSINORE, CA SUZ 0(32) 1(20) 1 0 1
26 586 CHRIS WHEELER SPRING VALLEY, CA SUZ 0(34) 0(21) 0 0 0
27 280 TIM E WEIGAND CHATSWORTH, CA HON 0(23) 0(22) 0 0 0
28 482 MICHAEL R BLOSE PHOENIX, AZ SUZ 0(26) 0(24) 0 0 0
29 901 JOHNNY MARLEY MOORE, OK YAM 0(33) 0(26) 0 0 0
30 441 JEREMY R CHAUSSEE LANCASTER, CA YAM 0(29) 0(27) 0 0 0
31 615 JEFF S NORTHROP CONCORD, CA KAW 0(27) 0(28) 0 0 0
32 782 MICHAEL G YOUNG PALMDALE, CA YAM 0(28) 0(29) 0 0 0
33 100 BUDDY M ANTUNEZ TEMECULA, CA SUZ 0(38) 0(30) 0 0 0
34 102 SHANE M BESS OXNARD, CA SUZ 0(24) 0(32) 0 0 0
35 92 LEVI A REID LLANO, CA YAM 0(35) 0(34) 0 0 0
36 62 JOSHUA P WOODS FLINT, MI SUZ 0(22) 0(36) 0 0 0
37 231 TYSON D HADSELL HUDSON, FL YAM 0(25) 0(37) 0 0 0
38 50 CASEY A JOHNSON LAKE ELSINORE, CA HON 0(31) 0(38) 0 0 0
39 255 CHASE S REED LONE GROVE, OK YAM 0(36) 0(39) 0 0 0
40 27 RODRIG THAIN FRANCE, YAM 0(40) 0(40) 0 0 0
1 259 JAMES M STEWART JR HAINES CITY, FL KAW 25( 1) 22( 2) 47 0 47
2 111 GRANT LANGSTON S AFRICA, KTM 20( 3) 20( 3) 40 0 40
3 103 CHAD REED AUSTRALIA, YAM 22( 2) 15( 6) 37 0 37
4 1 MICHAEL L BROWN PINEY FLATS, TN KAW 11(10) 25( 1) 36 0 36
5 37 DANNY L SMITH MIDDLETON, ID SUZ 16( 5) 16( 5) 32 0 32
6 68 MATT WALKER MC RAE, GA KAW 13( 8) 18( 4) 31 0 31
7 24 ERNESTO FONSECA COSTA RICA, HON 14( 7) 14( 7) 28 0 28
8 20 DAMON W HUFFMAN CANYON COUNTRY, CA SUZ 12( 9) 12( 9) 24 0 24
9 43 BOBBY B BONDS BAKERSFIELD, CA KAW 15( 6) 7(14) 22 0 22
10 29 TRAVIS A PRESTON HESPERIA, CA HON 9(12) 9(12) 18 0 18
11 18 BROCK SELLARDS SHERRODSVILLE, OH KTM 18( 4) 0(35) 18 0 18
12 35 MICHAEL BYRNE AUSTRALIA, QL HON 6(15) 8(13) 14 0 14
13 39 DAVID PINGREE TEMECULA, CA KTM 8(13) 6(15) 14 0 14
14 30 SCOTT SHEAK CORONA, CA HON 0(30) 13( 8) 13 0 13
15 94 JOSH R DEMUTH FORT WORTH, TX YAM 1(20) 11(10) 12 0 12
16 917 ERIC SORBY CORONA, CA KAW 2(19) 10(11) 12 0 12
17 45 IVAN TEDESCO TEMECULA, CA YAM 10(11) 0(33) 10 0 10
18 90 CHRISTOPHER GOSSELAAR JUNIPER HILLS, CA HON 7(14) 0(25) 7 0 7
19 105 TRAVIS C ELLIOTT ALVIN, TX HON 3(18) 3(18) 6 0 6
20 10 LARRY WARD FLORENCE, SC YAM 0(39) 5(16) 5 0 5
21 59 CASEY LYTLE SAUGUS, CA YAM 5(16) 0(23) 5 0 5
22 33 GREG S SCHNELL RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CA YAM 0(21) 4(17) 4 0 4
23 28 BRANDEN L JESSEMAN FOMBELL, PA SUZ 4(17) 0(31) 4 0 4
24 36 STEVE BONIFACE FRANCE, KTM 0(37) 2(19) 2 0 2
25 44 MICHAEL A BRANDES LAKE ELSINORE, CA SUZ 0(32) 1(20) 1 0 1
26 586 CHRIS WHEELER SPRING VALLEY, CA SUZ 0(34) 0(21) 0 0 0
27 280 TIM E WEIGAND CHATSWORTH, CA HON 0(23) 0(22) 0 0 0
28 482 MICHAEL R BLOSE PHOENIX, AZ SUZ 0(26) 0(24) 0 0 0
29 901 JOHNNY MARLEY MOORE, OK YAM 0(33) 0(26) 0 0 0
30 441 JEREMY R CHAUSSEE LANCASTER, CA YAM 0(29) 0(27) 0 0 0
31 615 JEFF S NORTHROP CONCORD, CA KAW 0(27) 0(28) 0 0 0
32 782 MICHAEL G YOUNG PALMDALE, CA YAM 0(28) 0(29) 0 0 0
33 100 BUDDY M ANTUNEZ TEMECULA, CA SUZ 0(38) 0(30) 0 0 0
34 102 SHANE M BESS OXNARD, CA SUZ 0(24) 0(32) 0 0 0
35 92 LEVI A REID LLANO, CA YAM 0(35) 0(34) 0 0 0
36 62 JOSHUA P WOODS FLINT, MI SUZ 0(22) 0(36) 0 0 0
37 231 TYSON D HADSELL HUDSON, FL YAM 0(25) 0(37) 0 0 0
38 50 CASEY A JOHNSON LAKE ELSINORE, CA HON 0(31) 0(38) 0 0 0
39 255 CHASE S REED LONE GROVE, OK YAM 0(36) 0(39) 0 0 0
40 27 RODRIG THAIN FRANCE, YAM 0(40) 0(40) 0 0 0
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1 4 RICKY CARMICHAEL HAVANA, FL HON 25( 1) 25( 1) 50 0 50
2 13 SEBASTIEN TORTELLI LOS ANGELES, CA HON 22( 2) 22( 2) 44 0 44
3 15 TIMMY M FERRY LARGO, FL YAM 20( 3) 20( 3) 40 0 40
4 12 DAVID VUILLEMIN CORONA, CA YAM 15( 6) 18( 4) 33 0 33
5 21 STEPHANE RONCADA MURRIETA, CA KAW 18( 4) 15( 6) 33 0 33
6 11 EZRA LUSK ACWORTH, GA KAW 14( 7) 16( 5) 30 0 30
7 23 KYLE LEWIS HENDERSON, NV HON 16( 5) 13( 8) 29 0 29
8 16 JOHN DOWD CHICOPEE, MA KTM 13( 8) 14( 7) 27 0 27
9 42 PAUL P CARPENTER ITHACA, NY HON 11(10) 10(11) 21 0 21
10 38 KEITH S JOHNSON PEMBROKE, MA KTM 9(12) 8(13) 17 0 17
11 40 JEANSEBASTIEN ROY CANADA, PQ HON 4(17) 12( 9) 16 0 16
12 303 DARCY G LANGE CANADA, BC KAW 8(13) 7(14) 15 0 15
13 54 RYAN D CLARK ALBUQUERQUE, NM YAM 10(11) 5(16) 15 0 15
14 87 CRAIG DECKER PALM DESERT, CA YAM 5(16) 9(12) 14 0 14
15 100 LANCE SMAIL KENT, WA KTM 6(15) 6(15) 12 0 12
16 99 SEAN HAMBLIN CALIFORNIA, SUZ 12( 9) 0(32) 12 0 12
17 17 ROBBIE L REYNARD OKLAHOMA CITY, OK HON 0(34) 11(10) 11 0 11
18 41 HEATH D VOSS MICO, TX HON 7(14) 0(37) 7 0 7
19 540 GUY M COOPER STILLWATER, OK KTM 3(18) 2(19) 5 0 5
20 75 TED CAMPBELL APACHE JUNCTION, AZ SUZ 0(32) 4(17) 4 0 4
21 89 JEREMIAS ISRAEL CHILE, HON 0(22) 3(18) 3 0 3
22 71 ANTHONY P AMARADIO TEMECULA, CA YAM 2(19) 0(27) 2 0 2
23 70 BRUCE A STRATTON CLIFTON SPRINGS, NY YAM 0(24) 1(20) 1 0 1
24 78 WALLY SILVA SHIRLEY, MA YAM 1(20) 0(38) 1 0 1
25 836 MICHEL SANDOVAL VENEZUELA, HON 0(27) 0(21) 0 0 0
26 236 BRIAN ROTH RANCHO CORDOVA, CA HON 0(26) 0(22) 0 0 0
27 812 RYAN DUDEK LONG BEACH, CA KTM 0(23) 0(23) 0 0 0
28 162 DENNIS E STAPLETON CAPITOLA, CA HON 0(37) 0(24) 0 0 0
29 310 ZEB ARMSTRONG GARDNERVILLE, NV HON 0(30) 0(25) 0 0 0
30 199 TRAVIS A PASTRANA DAVIDSONVILLE, MD SUZ 0(36) 0(26) 0 0 0
31 6 STEVE LAMSON CAMINO, CA HUS 0(21) 0(28) 0 0 0
32 921 DANIEL M BLAIR LODI, CA YAM 0(29) 0(29) 0 0 0
33 60 BRIAN SPUD WALTERS WINCHESTER, CA HON 0(39) 0(30) 0 0 0
34 247 TYLER D EVANS CANYON LAKE, CA HUS 0(38) 0(31) 0 0 0
35 320 GORDON WARD RIVERSIDE, CA HON 0(28) 0(33) 0 0 0
36 49 KEITH R JOHNSON ALBUQUERQUE, NM YAM 0(33) 0(34) 0 0 0
37 288 TY R CARSON ELKO, NV KTM 0(35) 0(35) 0 0 0
38 718 GERRIT W ORDELMAN VICTORVILLE, CA YAM 0(25) 0(36) 0 0 0
39 195 NATHAN N WOODS ATASCADERO, CA YAM 0(31) 0(39) 0 0 0
40 5 MIKE LAROCCO SOUTH BEND, IN HON 0(40) 0(40) 0 0 0
1 4 RICKY CARMICHAEL HAVANA, FL HON 25( 1) 25( 1) 50 0 50
2 13 SEBASTIEN TORTELLI LOS ANGELES, CA HON 22( 2) 22( 2) 44 0 44
3 15 TIMMY M FERRY LARGO, FL YAM 20( 3) 20( 3) 40 0 40
4 12 DAVID VUILLEMIN CORONA, CA YAM 15( 6) 18( 4) 33 0 33
5 21 STEPHANE RONCADA MURRIETA, CA KAW 18( 4) 15( 6) 33 0 33
6 11 EZRA LUSK ACWORTH, GA KAW 14( 7) 16( 5) 30 0 30
7 23 KYLE LEWIS HENDERSON, NV HON 16( 5) 13( 8) 29 0 29
8 16 JOHN DOWD CHICOPEE, MA KTM 13( 8) 14( 7) 27 0 27
9 42 PAUL P CARPENTER ITHACA, NY HON 11(10) 10(11) 21 0 21
10 38 KEITH S JOHNSON PEMBROKE, MA KTM 9(12) 8(13) 17 0 17
11 40 JEANSEBASTIEN ROY CANADA, PQ HON 4(17) 12( 9) 16 0 16
12 303 DARCY G LANGE CANADA, BC KAW 8(13) 7(14) 15 0 15
13 54 RYAN D CLARK ALBUQUERQUE, NM YAM 10(11) 5(16) 15 0 15
14 87 CRAIG DECKER PALM DESERT, CA YAM 5(16) 9(12) 14 0 14
15 100 LANCE SMAIL KENT, WA KTM 6(15) 6(15) 12 0 12
16 99 SEAN HAMBLIN CALIFORNIA, SUZ 12( 9) 0(32) 12 0 12
17 17 ROBBIE L REYNARD OKLAHOMA CITY, OK HON 0(34) 11(10) 11 0 11
18 41 HEATH D VOSS MICO, TX HON 7(14) 0(37) 7 0 7
19 540 GUY M COOPER STILLWATER, OK KTM 3(18) 2(19) 5 0 5
20 75 TED CAMPBELL APACHE JUNCTION, AZ SUZ 0(32) 4(17) 4 0 4
21 89 JEREMIAS ISRAEL CHILE, HON 0(22) 3(18) 3 0 3
22 71 ANTHONY P AMARADIO TEMECULA, CA YAM 2(19) 0(27) 2 0 2
23 70 BRUCE A STRATTON CLIFTON SPRINGS, NY YAM 0(24) 1(20) 1 0 1
24 78 WALLY SILVA SHIRLEY, MA YAM 1(20) 0(38) 1 0 1
25 836 MICHEL SANDOVAL VENEZUELA, HON 0(27) 0(21) 0 0 0
26 236 BRIAN ROTH RANCHO CORDOVA, CA HON 0(26) 0(22) 0 0 0
27 812 RYAN DUDEK LONG BEACH, CA KTM 0(23) 0(23) 0 0 0
28 162 DENNIS E STAPLETON CAPITOLA, CA HON 0(37) 0(24) 0 0 0
29 310 ZEB ARMSTRONG GARDNERVILLE, NV HON 0(30) 0(25) 0 0 0
30 199 TRAVIS A PASTRANA DAVIDSONVILLE, MD SUZ 0(36) 0(26) 0 0 0
31 6 STEVE LAMSON CAMINO, CA HUS 0(21) 0(28) 0 0 0
32 921 DANIEL M BLAIR LODI, CA YAM 0(29) 0(29) 0 0 0
33 60 BRIAN SPUD WALTERS WINCHESTER, CA HON 0(39) 0(30) 0 0 0
34 247 TYLER D EVANS CANYON LAKE, CA HUS 0(38) 0(31) 0 0 0
35 320 GORDON WARD RIVERSIDE, CA HON 0(28) 0(33) 0 0 0
36 49 KEITH R JOHNSON ALBUQUERQUE, NM YAM 0(33) 0(34) 0 0 0
37 288 TY R CARSON ELKO, NV KTM 0(35) 0(35) 0 0 0
38 718 GERRIT W ORDELMAN VICTORVILLE, CA YAM 0(25) 0(36) 0 0 0
39 195 NATHAN N WOODS ATASCADERO, CA YAM 0(31) 0(39) 0 0 0
40 5 MIKE LAROCCO SOUTH BEND, IN HON 0(40) 0(40) 0 0 0
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Congrats to RC and Bubba!!!!
No surprises here. :D
No surprises here. :D
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And Guy Coopers top 20 is very cool :cool:
Brownie putting it to the wonder kid!!!! There will be no lapping of the champ out doors :p Oh man this is going to be a great year in the 125 class. RC is making the 250 guys look bad. I was realy hoping that Seb would bring it to RC this year. I know its just the first round but it looks like RC is going to walk again.
"The gamble to get 6 points wasn't worth going down."
If Bubba has to ride over his head to get old man Brown his is in for a long season :p Justql you gotta cut me alittle slack, I'm not sure how many times I will be able to brag on my man Brown this year, so please give me my moment in the sun :confused: Brown kicked Bubbas Butt!!!!!!!! :p
If Bubba has to ride over his head to get old man Brown his is in for a long season :p Justql you gotta cut me alittle slack, I'm not sure how many times I will be able to brag on my man Brown this year, so please give me my moment in the sun :confused: Brown kicked Bubbas Butt!!!!!!!! :p
There is only one RC
Bubba did great along with Brownie, Reed and Langston.
However when you analyze the lap times Bubba went from
2:99 out to 3:08s in the 2nd moto, along with some others.
RC went from 2:99 to 3:00 both motos rough or not. His
victory lap in the first moto was a 3:02 while waving. So
you can see the pace RC runs compared to the others, the
125 class should prove interesting while the 250 is another
walkover for RC. I still cannot believe the fans booing an
incredible rider like RC.
Bubba did great along with Brownie, Reed and Langston.
However when you analyze the lap times Bubba went from
2:99 out to 3:08s in the 2nd moto, along with some others.
RC went from 2:99 to 3:00 both motos rough or not. His
victory lap in the first moto was a 3:02 while waving. So
you can see the pace RC runs compared to the others, the
125 class should prove interesting while the 250 is another
walkover for RC. I still cannot believe the fans booing an
incredible rider like RC.
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Bubba was fast and it appeared as if Kawi put him in cruise mode after Langston went down. I think Bubba could've tried for the pass. He was right on Brown's rear wheel for a lap after 111 fell, then he just backed off. It was a win/win for Kawi and Pro-Circuit.
They announced right before the second moto that Travis had a mechanical problem in the first moto. He rode the entire second moto, so I'll buy that story.
Bubba and RC are just plain fast. The only really exciting race of the day was the second 125 before Langston went down. There weren't many important passes. Ferry did put in some good rides though and got around Tortelli at the end of the day.
Those hills are amazing. Most mortals wouldn't ski down them and the uphill portion of Mt. Yamaha is as steep as the orginal Widowmaker. If you've seen "On Any Sunday" lately, you'll remember that the first guy to ever climb it is on the video. Now we have 80's racing up an almost equivalent hill. :eek:
They announced right before the second moto that Travis had a mechanical problem in the first moto. He rode the entire second moto, so I'll buy that story.
Bubba and RC are just plain fast. The only really exciting race of the day was the second 125 before Langston went down. There weren't many important passes. Ferry did put in some good rides though and got around Tortelli at the end of the day.
Those hills are amazing. Most mortals wouldn't ski down them and the uphill portion of Mt. Yamaha is as steep as the orginal Widowmaker. If you've seen "On Any Sunday" lately, you'll remember that the first guy to ever climb it is on the video. Now we have 80's racing up an almost equivalent hill. :eek:
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I think I heard at one time he was running in 6th. :cool: :cool:
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I was supprised at how well Langston did. I guess I should have expected him to do this well. But for a guy that just had surgery a few weeks ago and has had a string of bad luck and a lot of injuries he did real well. KTM is lucky they got to keep him for a couple more years. He is the real deal.....
As for Bubba... He did as well as I figured he would. Talk about a phenom....
Its gonna be an awsome season... I just love the Outdoor Nationals....
Seems the 125 class is turning into the premier class......
As for Bubba... He did as well as I figured he would. Talk about a phenom....
Its gonna be an awsome season... I just love the Outdoor Nationals....
Seems the 125 class is turning into the premier class......
He would have his hands full.... Not like the cake walk he has in the 250 class......
I haven't seen the official lap times but they were talking about Brown moving form dead last 37th up 20+ spots over the loudspeaker and they commented how his last lap time was 1 second faster than Stewart's. He was mid-pack mind you while Stewart was maintaining a blowout lead at the time. Perhaps Bubba was riding smart & sandbagging (cruising) a bit at that point and on the second moto b/c he really didn't challenge Brown, but Brown did look good. You just can't by watching how much is strategy vs. endurance. Langston looked great too. Too bad he couldn't keep it upright. I figured Reed would have been a little more dominant as well. Should be a good season for 125's.
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He would have his hands full.... Not like the cake walk he has in the 250 class......
Hey EXCman don't you ever check the lap times in these races? Last year RC was 3 seconds a lap faster than Langston and Brown at Steel City in his only 125CC ride. The 125 class did not come close to his times nor Tortelli's either. There is not one rider in the 125 class who can beat Tortelli outdoors, he just has the misfortune of competing against RC. On the last moto of the day at Glen Helen with the roughest
track RC was blowing all the 125s away on lap times. 3 to 5 seconds a lap! 250 is the premier class and the 125 is still an entry level into pro racing. Can you name one rider who has started in the 250 class instead of the 125 class in modern motocross? But I can name you a
few who have gone back when they get long in the tooth! How about Larry Ward winning an event last year! RC is just so dominant he makes the 250 class look easy but it is the hardest by far.
Hey EXCman don't you ever check the lap times in these races? Last year RC was 3 seconds a lap faster than Langston and Brown at Steel City in his only 125CC ride. The 125 class did not come close to his times nor Tortelli's either. There is not one rider in the 125 class who can beat Tortelli outdoors, he just has the misfortune of competing against RC. On the last moto of the day at Glen Helen with the roughest
track RC was blowing all the 125s away on lap times. 3 to 5 seconds a lap! 250 is the premier class and the 125 is still an entry level into pro racing. Can you name one rider who has started in the 250 class instead of the 125 class in modern motocross? But I can name you a
few who have gone back when they get long in the tooth! How about Larry Ward winning an event last year! RC is just so dominant he makes the 250 class look easy but it is the hardest by far.
